TechnoAlchemist
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:09 am
Admin Involved TechnoAlchemist
Players Name / C-key Josh Morris / Jembo
Player Involved Slays-The-Fox / Kodeth101
I feel like this admin he could of handled this situation differently, if he didn't like how I interacted with the player he could of PM'd me and had me release him. But instead he made him an antag who went around killing a bunch of players. Also if I wasn't as level headed in the situation, TechnoAlchemist could of easily job banned me for back talk, or even banned me in general for throwing a player in perma if I wasn't able to properly defend myself during the initial round of questioning. As he already deemed me to be in the wrong against a player who made bomb threats with a bag full of bombs.
Summary I heard the AI say a scientist was making bomb threats, Kodeth101 So I go to science to investigate the situation myself where another officer Helps-In-Part already had him cornered. Both the AI, and Helps-In-Part said that Kodeth101 made bomb threats. When searched he had a pack full of bombs and I had no choice but to take his threats seriously. Upon being brigged though my questioning of him he continued to insult me, and someone attempted to break into the HOS's office, as well as a plasma fire broke out. So I had no time to deal with him. I threw him in perma, and began to sort out the other station issues, which was becoming a longer, and longer list the longer I tried to get the truth out of him, though his insults. Shortly after I get an admin PM from TechnoAlchemist asking my why Kodeth101 was in perma. They seemed satisfied with my response, and I treated with with a great deal of respect and even offered up my logs showing I had two witnesses stating he made bomb threats.
The round continued as normally, and I got hit in the leg with a throwing star and began to bleed out when I noticed him running around the halls. We have a short fight but I collapse and pass out from a mix of the throwing star, and him not being able to stay down after getting stunned. *And me being unrobust* He drags me into my captains office, using an emag strips off my PDA, takes me into my back room and kills me hiding my body in the showers. I then spoke to TechnoAlchemist though admin PM and I feel like the logs tell a good enough story.
Logs
My interactions with the admins that round.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Got a moment?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Sure do
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Why did you perma Slays-The-Fox?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Bomb threats comfirmed by the AI, and another sec officer by the name of Helps-In-Part
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): He also had a pack full of bombs at the time of his arrest
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Alright, thank you.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Do you want my logs where I had both people telling me he made threats or is that enough?
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): I believe that he did make the threat, just seeing the validity of the perma ect ect.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Ah thank you, well have a nice day.
HELP: Jembo/(Josh Morris): Hello I have a complain to make - heard by 4 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Alright
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): So I got admin helped by a traitor, was overtly being a traitor?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Then he magically broke out and killed me?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): I wanna know why someone can admin help, when they're obviously in the wrong and got caught in the wrong just to ban the person who caught them out.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Nobody got banned
PM: TheBibleMelts/(Xemo)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Looks like an admin gave him a free antag status and some free emag to go with it.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TheBibleMelts/(Xemo): Oh really?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): But let's say I wasn't as level headed when you did message me, and lost my cool I could have easily gotten banned or job banned.
PM: TheBibleMelts/(Xemo)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Techno made him an antag and spawned some things in his cell so he could escape because he felt the sentancing was improper.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): We don't job ban for bad attitude.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): At least I don't
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): No but you have bans captains in properly perma brigging people
PM: ThatSlyFox/(Jim Otis)->Jacough/(Kreyvn Morhed): From what I heard from the two ais: Plasma was still in secuirty and the person who was causing all of this was still walking around.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Or taking people out of the round.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): I wasn't planning on banning you, I was just seeing what the terms of the permabrigging was. IT was an investigation not a witchhunt.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): I apologize for inadvertently ruining your round.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): You didn't ruin my round, but this kind of shit would easily ruin another players round
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): So you didn't like something that happened ICly, that the captain did so you gave the other player the tools to kill the captain and free'd him?
End Round Report showing that he's not an antag, even though in the logs given to me he was made one.
Full Admin Logs Thanks to TheBibleMelts
Players Name / C-key Josh Morris / Jembo
Player Involved Slays-The-Fox / Kodeth101
I feel like this admin he could of handled this situation differently, if he didn't like how I interacted with the player he could of PM'd me and had me release him. But instead he made him an antag who went around killing a bunch of players. Also if I wasn't as level headed in the situation, TechnoAlchemist could of easily job banned me for back talk, or even banned me in general for throwing a player in perma if I wasn't able to properly defend myself during the initial round of questioning. As he already deemed me to be in the wrong against a player who made bomb threats with a bag full of bombs.
Summary I heard the AI say a scientist was making bomb threats, Kodeth101 So I go to science to investigate the situation myself where another officer Helps-In-Part already had him cornered. Both the AI, and Helps-In-Part said that Kodeth101 made bomb threats. When searched he had a pack full of bombs and I had no choice but to take his threats seriously. Upon being brigged though my questioning of him he continued to insult me, and someone attempted to break into the HOS's office, as well as a plasma fire broke out. So I had no time to deal with him. I threw him in perma, and began to sort out the other station issues, which was becoming a longer, and longer list the longer I tried to get the truth out of him, though his insults. Shortly after I get an admin PM from TechnoAlchemist asking my why Kodeth101 was in perma. They seemed satisfied with my response, and I treated with with a great deal of respect and even offered up my logs showing I had two witnesses stating he made bomb threats.
The round continued as normally, and I got hit in the leg with a throwing star and began to bleed out when I noticed him running around the halls. We have a short fight but I collapse and pass out from a mix of the throwing star, and him not being able to stay down after getting stunned. *And me being unrobust* He drags me into my captains office, using an emag strips off my PDA, takes me into my back room and kills me hiding my body in the showers. I then spoke to TechnoAlchemist though admin PM and I feel like the logs tell a good enough story.
Logs
My interactions with the admins that round.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Got a moment?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Sure do
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Why did you perma Slays-The-Fox?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Bomb threats comfirmed by the AI, and another sec officer by the name of Helps-In-Part
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): He also had a pack full of bombs at the time of his arrest
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Alright, thank you.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Do you want my logs where I had both people telling me he made threats or is that enough?
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): I believe that he did make the threat, just seeing the validity of the perma ect ect.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Ah thank you, well have a nice day.
HELP: Jembo/(Josh Morris): Hello I have a complain to make - heard by 4 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Alright
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): So I got admin helped by a traitor, was overtly being a traitor?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Then he magically broke out and killed me?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): I wanna know why someone can admin help, when they're obviously in the wrong and got caught in the wrong just to ban the person who caught them out.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Nobody got banned
PM: TheBibleMelts/(Xemo)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Looks like an admin gave him a free antag status and some free emag to go with it.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TheBibleMelts/(Xemo): Oh really?
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): But let's say I wasn't as level headed when you did message me, and lost my cool I could have easily gotten banned or job banned.
PM: TheBibleMelts/(Xemo)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): Techno made him an antag and spawned some things in his cell so he could escape because he felt the sentancing was improper.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): We don't job ban for bad attitude.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): At least I don't
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): No but you have bans captains in properly perma brigging people
PM: ThatSlyFox/(Jim Otis)->Jacough/(Kreyvn Morhed): From what I heard from the two ais: Plasma was still in secuirty and the person who was causing all of this was still walking around.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): Or taking people out of the round.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): I wasn't planning on banning you, I was just seeing what the terms of the permabrigging was. IT was an investigation not a witchhunt.
PM: TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart)->Jembo/(Josh Morris): I apologize for inadvertently ruining your round.
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): You didn't ruin my round, but this kind of shit would easily ruin another players round
PM: Jembo/(Josh Morris)->TechnoAlchemist/(Breaks-The-Heart): So you didn't like something that happened ICly, that the captain did so you gave the other player the tools to kill the captain and free'd him?
End Round Report showing that he's not an antag, even though in the logs given to me he was made one.
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