[Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

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[Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Post by BeeSting12 » #225924

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Time incident occured: When catpeople were disabled(a couple of weeks ago?), about 3:00 p.m. EST, 11/12/16.
Detailed summary: Lzimann went on and disabled catpeople about two weeks ago without having a vote or anything for it. I guess it would be okay if he gave an explanation for it, but he didn't, even when asked multiple times. He logged in today at the time listed above and disabled lizards, again, not giving a reason and logging off shortly after. I doubt he took a headmin vote for any of this, and if he did, then it wasn't publicized. Since he refuses to explain his reasoning for this, I can only assume that he is doing it to create drama. Dorsi managed to reenable catpeople, and he logged in for less than a minute, reenabled them, and left. This is not about muh snowflake race getting removed- I don't even play lizards, this is about him abusing his headmin powers to create as much drama as he can. There's actually people who enjoy playing and RPing as these races, and if this bothers you then you might have issues. Headmins were meant to represent the community, and to be honest, I think a majority of the community wants them in, or is indifferent, it's just the small and vocal minority that wants them disabled. Anyway, that's my case. I'm not that good at writing this sorta stuff, so ask me any questions you might have.
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Post by TechnoAlchemist » #225926

What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?

Anyways, good work Lzimann.
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Post by Aloraydrel » #225929

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Post by TehSteveo » #225932

TechnoAlchemist wrote:What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?

Anyways, good work Lzimann.
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Post by BeeSting12 » #225933

TechnoAlchemist wrote:What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?

Anyways, good work Lzimann.
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Post by Pascal125 » #225936

I don't think that silently making changes to things that don't affect anybody just to get a reaction, or because of some petty reason, because they're about to lose their position soon is something a Headmin, or admin for that matter, should be doing.

Especially if they're just gonna silently relog and undo another admins changes again, before logging off.
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Post by Kraso » #225939

TechnoAlchemist wrote:Anyways, good work Lzimann.
read: "I need to suck off the headmins for my good boy points."
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Post by Saegrimr » #225944

Doing gods work
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Post by TechnoAlchemist » #225945

Not an argument
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Post by IrishWristWatch0 » #225960

TechnoAlchemist wrote:Not an argument
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Post by onleavedontatme » #225961

I don't think riling up players for no reason or discussion two days before you're no longer headmin is productive, and I say this as someone who turned lizards off before previously and made several PRs to restrict them from certain roles. They're back on, let the next set of headmins deal with it if they really think the server will be better for it (and I mean actually better for it, trolling players fnr is something we allegedly spend all day combatting).
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Post by BeeSting12 » #225962

Kor wrote:I don't think riling up players for no reason or discussion two days before you're no longer headmin is productive, and I say this as someone who turned lizards off before previously and made several PRs to restrict them from certain roles. They're back on, let the next set of headmins deal with it if they really think the server will be better for it (and I mean actually better for it, trolling players fnr is something we allegedly spend all day combatting).
what about catpeople
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Post by TheColdTurtle » #225965

What about them
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Post by Xhagi » #225967

Catpeople were a mistake.
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Post by Digdugxx » #225969

Why did Aliannera just say that..
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Post by Xhagi » #225976

Digdugxx wrote:Why did Aliannera just say that..
To make you think, really.
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Post by Kraso » #225980

Aliannera wrote:
Digdugxx wrote:Why did Aliannera just say that..
To make you think, really.
This really makes my synapses fire...
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Post by Shaps-cloud » #225982

Lizards were disabled? That's dumb, lizards are fine
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Post by BeeSting12 » #225988

Shap wrote:Lizards were disabled? That's dumb, lizards are fine
Exactly, he was doing it just to get reactions, and that's not acceptable for any admin, but especially a headmin.
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Post by lzimann » #225993

Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).
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Post by Kraso » #225996

lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).
love your justification while never bothering to say anything before removing things fam
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Post by BeeSting12 » #225997

lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).
then why did you not give an answer and continuously dodged the question when asked about it?
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Post by Cobby » #226000

should have removed all of them, humans are the only TRUE species.
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Post by CPTANT » #226003

It was decided ages ago that lizardpeople would only be added under the explicit promise that no other beastrace would ever be added.

That turned out to be a lie.

Catpeople have no place on the station.
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Post by Kraso » #226014

CPTANT wrote:It was decided ages ago that lizardpeople would only be added under the explicit promise that no other beastrace would ever be added.

That turned out to be a lie.

Catpeople have no place on the station.
Catpeople are a human mutation, not a species.
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Post by Cobby » #226023

semantics
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Post by TheColdTurtle » #226025

Let's remove slimepeople, plasma men, podmen, fly men, and changeling too. But seriously do remove flymen
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Post by kevinz000 » #226027

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Post by Incoming » #226042

For the record Lizards are currently/still off on sybil
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Post by Isane » #226044

How about we just not do things for the sake of "le epic troll".
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Post by Aloraydrel » #226069

Kraso wrote:
TechnoAlchemist wrote:Anyways, good work Lzimann.
read: "I need to suck off the headmins for my good boy points."
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Post by DrPillzRedux » #226072

Well I hate to break it to you guys, inb4 this gets censored

but

a long time ago

lzimann as a catgirl, another catgirl, and myself as a posibrain erp'd. I was used as a dildo and it was the most funny shit.

Lzimann is covering his tail!
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lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then.
I am honestly curious, what makes the game funner when there are only humans? I know I used to hate lizards and catpeople for awhile but that was simply because they broke my headcanon of the universe, but after I saw some very good players for both I realized how stupid it was to hate them for breaking muh headcanon. I must assume that other people must have reasons less dumb than my old reason so I am quite curious.
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #226079

Owegno wrote:
lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then.
I am honestly curious, what makes the game funner when there are only humans? I know I used to hate lizards and catpeople for awhile but that was simply because they broke my headcanon of the universe, but after I saw some very good players for both I realized how stupid it was to hate them for breaking muh headcanon. I must assume that other people must have reasons less dumb than my old reason so I am quite curious.
it kind of boils down to a matter of preference, i for one groan whenever any kind of race war meme appears
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Post by The Ultimate Chimera » #226093

Good job removing cat people. :)
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Post by tedward1337 » #226132

DrPillzRedux wrote:Well I hate to break it to you guys, inb4 this gets censored

but

a long time ago

lzimann as a catgirl, another catgirl, and myself as a posibrain erp'd. I was used as a dildo and it was the most funny shit.

Lzimann is covering his tail!
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Post by captain sawrge » #226336

It's cool how a headmin did something entirely to stir up shit and everyone just makes hilarious shitposts about it.
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Post by Wyzack » #226344

I am curious lzimann why do something like this when your headmin term is basically over?
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Post by lzimann » #226346

Wyzack wrote:I am curious lzimann why do something like this when your headmin term is basically over?
Because I forgot to do it earlier.
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