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[Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:52 pm
by BeeSting12
Byond account and character name: BeeSting12
Admin: Lzimann
Time incident occured: When catpeople were disabled(a couple of weeks ago?), about 3:00 p.m. EST, 11/12/16.
Detailed summary: Lzimann went on and disabled catpeople about two weeks ago without having a vote or anything for it. I guess it would be okay if he gave an explanation for it, but he didn't, even when asked multiple times. He logged in today at the time listed above and disabled lizards, again, not giving a reason and logging off shortly after. I doubt he took a headmin vote for any of this, and if he did, then it wasn't publicized. Since he refuses to explain his reasoning for this, I can only assume that he is doing it to create drama. Dorsi managed to reenable catpeople, and he logged in for less than a minute, reenabled them, and left. This is not about muh snowflake race getting removed- I don't even play lizards, this is about him abusing his headmin powers to create as much drama as he can. There's actually people who enjoy playing and RPing as these races, and if this bothers you then you might have issues. Headmins were meant to represent the community, and to be honest, I think a majority of the community wants them in, or is indifferent, it's just the small and vocal minority that wants them disabled. Anyway, that's my case. I'm not that good at writing this sorta stuff, so ask me any questions you might have.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:55 pm
by TechnoAlchemist
What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?

Anyways, good work Lzimann.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:58 pm
by Aloraydrel
Madman

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:01 pm
by TehSteveo
TechnoAlchemist wrote:What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?

Anyways, good work Lzimann.
*wag

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:05 pm
by BeeSting12
TechnoAlchemist wrote:What exactly, does roleplaying as a catgirl entail?

Anyways, good work Lzimann.
nyaa

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:09 pm
by Pascal125
I don't think that silently making changes to things that don't affect anybody just to get a reaction, or because of some petty reason, because they're about to lose their position soon is something a Headmin, or admin for that matter, should be doing.

Especially if they're just gonna silently relog and undo another admins changes again, before logging off.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:19 pm
by Kraso
TechnoAlchemist wrote:Anyways, good work Lzimann.
read: "I need to suck off the headmins for my good boy points."

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:41 pm
by Saegrimr
Doing gods work

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:42 pm
by TechnoAlchemist
Not an argument

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:22 pm
by IrishWristWatch0
TechnoAlchemist wrote:Not an argument
Yes it is

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:27 pm
by onleavedontatme
I don't think riling up players for no reason or discussion two days before you're no longer headmin is productive, and I say this as someone who turned lizards off before previously and made several PRs to restrict them from certain roles. They're back on, let the next set of headmins deal with it if they really think the server will be better for it (and I mean actually better for it, trolling players fnr is something we allegedly spend all day combatting).

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:28 pm
by BeeSting12
Kor wrote:I don't think riling up players for no reason or discussion two days before you're no longer headmin is productive, and I say this as someone who turned lizards off before previously and made several PRs to restrict them from certain roles. They're back on, let the next set of headmins deal with it if they really think the server will be better for it (and I mean actually better for it, trolling players fnr is something we allegedly spend all day combatting).
what about catpeople

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:35 pm
by TheColdTurtle
What about them

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:38 pm
by Xhagi
Catpeople were a mistake.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:45 pm
by Digdugxx
Why did Aliannera just say that..

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:20 pm
by Xhagi
Digdugxx wrote:Why did Aliannera just say that..
To make you think, really.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:37 pm
by Kraso
Aliannera wrote:
Digdugxx wrote:Why did Aliannera just say that..
To make you think, really.
This really makes my synapses fire...

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:46 pm
by Shaps-cloud
Lizards were disabled? That's dumb, lizards are fine

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:05 am
by BeeSting12
Shap wrote:Lizards were disabled? That's dumb, lizards are fine
Exactly, he was doing it just to get reactions, and that's not acceptable for any admin, but especially a headmin.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:15 am
by lzimann
Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:50 am
by Kraso
lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).
love your justification while never bothering to say anything before removing things fam

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:57 am
by BeeSting12
lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then. And no, I don't do things to get people salty or anything(it's even an attitude that I despise).
then why did you not give an answer and continuously dodged the question when asked about it?

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:23 am
by Cobby
should have removed all of them, humans are the only TRUE species.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:32 am
by CPTANT
It was decided ages ago that lizardpeople would only be added under the explicit promise that no other beastrace would ever be added.

That turned out to be a lie.

Catpeople have no place on the station.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:09 am
by Kraso
CPTANT wrote:It was decided ages ago that lizardpeople would only be added under the explicit promise that no other beastrace would ever be added.

That turned out to be a lie.

Catpeople have no place on the station.
Catpeople are a human mutation, not a species.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:28 am
by Cobby
semantics

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:30 am
by TheColdTurtle
Let's remove slimepeople, plasma men, podmen, fly men, and changeling too. But seriously do remove flymen

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:32 am
by kevinz000
Nya

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:10 am
by Incoming
For the record Lizards are currently/still off on sybil

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:17 am
by Isane
How about we just not do things for the sake of "le epic troll".

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:35 am
by Aloraydrel
Kraso wrote:
TechnoAlchemist wrote:Anyways, good work Lzimann.
read: "I need to suck off the headmins for my good boy points."
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Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:22 am
by DrPillzRedux
Well I hate to break it to you guys, inb4 this gets censored

but

a long time ago

lzimann as a catgirl, another catgirl, and myself as a posibrain erp'd. I was used as a dildo and it was the most funny shit.

Lzimann is covering his tail!

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:26 am
by Owegno
lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then.
I am honestly curious, what makes the game funner when there are only humans? I know I used to hate lizards and catpeople for awhile but that was simply because they broke my headcanon of the universe, but after I saw some very good players for both I realized how stupid it was to hate them for breaking muh headcanon. I must assume that other people must have reasons less dumb than my old reason so I am quite curious.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:50 am
by PKPenguin321
Owegno wrote:
lzimann wrote:Yes, I am an extremely evil person that did this all for my own amusement! In my opinion, maybe for a little of nostalgia effect, the game is more pleasent without special races, maybe it's just me then.
I am honestly curious, what makes the game funner when there are only humans? I know I used to hate lizards and catpeople for awhile but that was simply because they broke my headcanon of the universe, but after I saw some very good players for both I realized how stupid it was to hate them for breaking muh headcanon. I must assume that other people must have reasons less dumb than my old reason so I am quite curious.
it kind of boils down to a matter of preference, i for one groan whenever any kind of race war meme appears

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:24 am
by The Ultimate Chimera
Good job removing cat people. :)

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:39 pm
by tedward1337
DrPillzRedux wrote:Well I hate to break it to you guys, inb4 this gets censored

but

a long time ago

lzimann as a catgirl, another catgirl, and myself as a posibrain erp'd. I was used as a dildo and it was the most funny shit.

Lzimann is covering his tail!
The real story here

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:32 am
by captain sawrge
It's cool how a headmin did something entirely to stir up shit and everyone just makes hilarious shitposts about it.

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:30 am
by Wyzack
I am curious lzimann why do something like this when your headmin term is basically over?

Re: [Lzimann] Removing mutant races for no apparent reason

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:50 am
by lzimann
Wyzack wrote:I am curious lzimann why do something like this when your headmin term is basically over?
Because I forgot to do it earlier.