[Kevinz000] Working against players interest IC.

[onleavedontatme]

Bottom post of the previous page:

48 meticulously documented replies about a videogame arrest lmao

[CPTANT]

Am I the only one that still doesn't get what Kevin being an admin has anything to do with what happened?

[Slignerd]

It doesn't, Fwoosh is just salty about a mutiny that just happened to involve an admin player.

[Armhulen]

Am I the only one that still doesn't get what Kevin being an admin has anything to do with what happened?

so there, no admin stuff was done not actionable close this shit

[Slignerd]

Limski nailed it at the very beginning tbh

keep your stupid fucking drama episode in the hut

[Wyzack]

I cant wait to hear how this was all an ebin ruse

[FantasticFwoosh]

> I am apathetic, it is my core weakness
>*gets mutinied for an apathetic action*
> wtf i'm putting up a ban req/acomplaint for you mutinying me you can't do that!

How have you managed to admit the problem yet deny the problem in a single thread?

It doesn't, Fwoosh is just salty about a mutiny that just happened to involve an admin player.

The mutiny could only happen because he was a admin. He was self enabling it to happen for his own reasons.

I dont know how the connection between mutiny = requires admin or usually bwoinkable was lost on most of you, but a mutiny usually strives to achieve change in the current conditions, kevinz mutinied us on the shuttle when the inevitable had already happened and refused to accept the outcome by berating us and ignoring the fights and security work happening outside in the shuttle too.

Cause and effect if you want to really go that route, but it really undermines trust in policy that is still being debated about the validity of calling shuttles if group X which kevin seems to fall in is always going to lynch/punish those responsible just for making command decisions lobbied around between command even in the best pretenses. There's fighting in the shuttle outside and kevinz is literally still solely transfixed on me and the HOS and from logs had been since the red alert had been issued. Just so happened sec was in the group X by coincidence.

> What promoted kevinz to really press action & pass judgement versus between two consensual members of command at the time deciding for different reasons to call plus to step in and intervene on a already foregone conclusion instead of accept it? The mutiny. Admin Officer will lead a sec mutiny whenever he feels like it to get around IC situational rulings.

He most definitely has a issue about it, in regards to his playstyle manner of doing 3 jobs at once (security, bit of engineer, fulltime RnD) toes were majorly stepped on.

[Lazengann]

Kicking the shit out of heads who make shitty shuttle calls is fair game and does not require admin intervention

[kevinz000]

I mutinied while deadminned.
I happen to be an admin when not deadminned


... What's the issue again?????

[Slignerd]

and a mutiny has to be run though a admin

First I heard of it. Of course, you can't start a mutiny without a very good reason, but I've never heard of any and all mutinies requiring admin approval.

Stop complaining about people breaking rules that aren't actual server rules.

[FantasticFwoosh]

I mutinied while deadminned.
I happen to be an admin when not deadminned


... What's the issue again?????

Admin Officer will lead a sec mutiny whenever he feels like it to get around IC situations/rule 10's because his feelings were hurt or he felt it was unfair that someone else did something maybe considered detrimental to their current goals

Childish. Because you can greenlight the mutiny as the only admin (deadmin rather) on the server at that time, and that's exploitative abuse of your status. And in the other circumstances if you deny you can even do that should i reasonably ahelp you for leading it anyway? not that im sure i would garner a amount of sympathy for it.

The reason to stop us was entirely your own (and ispira's) creation, and we could have just boarded the shuttle all of us in peace. It was allowed to happen under your watch and you milked it for all it was worth.

[Slignerd]

Are you just going to ignore people telling you that mutinies don't necessarily require an admin's blessing?

[BeeSting12]

uh yeah its a precedent that mutinies can happen against shit heads of staff. dont think it says being an admin is a requirement to mutiny.

[kevinz000]

This entire complaint is trying to get around a rule 10

[FantasticFwoosh]

This entire complaint is trying to get around a rule 10

For who? We went to the shuttle (well actually i was took there against my will while escorting the captain), you're the ones who wanted to exact revenge however that might have manifested itself.

[Dax Dupont]

Let it go Fwoosh, let it go!

[Slignerd]

This entire complaint is trying to get around a rule 10

For who?

For you. You're making an entire admin complaint about an IC scenario that didn't go your way.

[feem]

There's nothing actionable here. Why is this still going?

[Slignerd]

Because Fwoosh thinks it'll become actionable if he only finds just the right way to say the same thing for the 20th time. Which will always be about how Kevinz had no right to take part in the mutiny, or to go around moonlighting.

It'll keep going until this thread gets locked or moved to the hut.

[feem]

Honestly the only thing that's remotely close to a rule violation here is the fact that the complaint hinging on "but he's an admin! he can't play the game like other players!" is lightweight metagrudging.

Fwoosh, calling the shuttle for no reason is far more actionable than recalling it because the people who called it are panicking, wrong, and bored. And it's still not very actionable.

Arguments about recalling or not happen every single round and probably every fifth round someone calling or recalling gets arrested for doing it.

Kevin being an admin didn't have anything to do with the IC events. Nobody "approves" mutinies. The only rules about them are don't be a dick and don't antag as a non antag.

[feem]

Fwoosh, please stop writing the post you're writing and wait for a headmin.

[PKPenguin321]

>do thing as non admin ingame
>because you are an admin you have to sift through out of game shit like this thread

this is the reason we are getting fewer and fewer admins

not actionable sorry