[BeeSting12] Waseemq1235 - AI-Captain Incident
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:50 pm
When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): Terry
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: Waseemq1235
Admin: BeeSting12
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE: 111721
Detailed summary:
Seemingly normal shift for an AI, all until the captain decides to order BSA parts, he assembles them in the middle of the central hallway, right on the "Space Station 13" logo. I, as an AI, obviously ordered my borgs and tried to do everything to keep him from firing it (if he had fired it, it would've blasted through half of the hallway, botany, and atmospherics, depressurizing the entire station, which is, obviously, human harm. My laws weren't asimov, they were pretty much crewsimov, but same thing, fire BSA, you fuck up the entire station. I'm not really sure about what exactly happened with the crowd of people around the BSA since I can't really hear conversations as an AI. He tries to unlock the BSA via bridge keycard panel, however I quickly kill the APC, preventing him from unlocking the BSA, then I lock him in the bridge, however that doesn't go too well as the captain has access to the APC's, so I let it slip past, he leaves the bridge. He then goes straight to the upload, and judging by his attempts to swipe-unlock the BSA, and him holding the freeform module, I tazerlock him in the upload, starts saying I'm rogue since I don't want to let him upload the law.
Soon after, my borgs decon the upload, wall the room off, and get the captain out. Stuff calms down, until he somehow uploads that law that he's been wanting to upload the entire time, not sure how, but I believe it was a maint built upload. Nontheless, the law stated "The firing of bluespace artillery can not be harmful to humans". I completely ignore this law because I am on basically crewsimov, none of my laws stated anything about human harm, it was crewmember harm. I proceed to keep him from the BSA, he gets sick with diseases and whatnot, realizing that he was actually sick with a harmful disease, I let him out of where I locked him at. He started calling me rogue (not sure exactly when he started, but it was around this time, could've been earlier or later). Sec officer, using the now overpowered launchpads, teleports my core to engineering, cards me, and confirms over comms that I am not rogue. He then returns me to the core. Captain, to what I can recall, continued calling me rogue. Some time later, I get PDA'd from the "captain" with WGW. At that time, I literally was looking for an excuse to shut the captain up because from that point I was literally fighting the captain in an indirect way, and so I thought, "This is the perfect chance to shut him up once and for all". Little did I know that it was a comms agent, however, I had absolutely no way of recognizing that was a comms agent, I didn't really do much to hurt him, he was literally dying on his own (not sure exactly what was happening with him, but he was vomiting A LOT, I believe he hand teleport). He was stuck in the wall for a while, I bolted the doors to the rooms with the walls, hoping to kill him, someone rescues him however. I'll be honest, I don't really remember what was happening after that, because I was too busy with BeeSting in admin issues. BeeSting apparentally gives me a yellow warning stating "Warned- Attempted killing the captain as the AI for getting a PDA message with WGW under the captain's name (comms agent). Be absolutely sure of their identity before validding.", which, as I have mentioned before, I had absolutely zero way of making sure that he was the actual captain, and the captain was just so annoying that, again, as I said before, I was just begging for an excuse to get rid of him. If I had allowed him to fire the BSA, well, there were two people in botany, one was in direct line of fire, not sure if there was anyone in atmos, but firing that BSA would have been certain to kill someone and ruin 2 departments, that includes atmos. Apparentally BeeSting later replies and says "The captain didn't want to fire the BSA, he said it would've been a bad idea to". He only said this to BeeSting, in no way did he say this to me OR the crew, and judging by his previous very desperate attempts to fire the BSA, I used common sense and concluded that he still wanted to fire it. Later he blows all 3 of my borgs which weren't even trying to kill him, according to what I saw. Even after the sec officer cards me and confirms over comms that I wasn't malf/rogue in any way. BeeSting later blames it on me because "I didn't confirm that he was the sender", and as I said, there was an absolute lack of way that I could've proved that it wasn't him, and therefore I believe that I do not deserve this warning.
Sorry if I made this a massive block of text. I hope that this complaint would be taken into consideration. Thank you.
Edit: On a side note, 2 people in OOC agreed with me after the round ended.
Edit2: I also believe that this entire issue would've been resolved if an admin had responded quicker/was ingame, BeeSting took a while to get to the server, and by the time he arrived, stuff was way downhill.
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: Waseemq1235
Admin: BeeSting12
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE: 111721
Detailed summary:
Seemingly normal shift for an AI, all until the captain decides to order BSA parts, he assembles them in the middle of the central hallway, right on the "Space Station 13" logo. I, as an AI, obviously ordered my borgs and tried to do everything to keep him from firing it (if he had fired it, it would've blasted through half of the hallway, botany, and atmospherics, depressurizing the entire station, which is, obviously, human harm. My laws weren't asimov, they were pretty much crewsimov, but same thing, fire BSA, you fuck up the entire station. I'm not really sure about what exactly happened with the crowd of people around the BSA since I can't really hear conversations as an AI. He tries to unlock the BSA via bridge keycard panel, however I quickly kill the APC, preventing him from unlocking the BSA, then I lock him in the bridge, however that doesn't go too well as the captain has access to the APC's, so I let it slip past, he leaves the bridge. He then goes straight to the upload, and judging by his attempts to swipe-unlock the BSA, and him holding the freeform module, I tazerlock him in the upload, starts saying I'm rogue since I don't want to let him upload the law.
Soon after, my borgs decon the upload, wall the room off, and get the captain out. Stuff calms down, until he somehow uploads that law that he's been wanting to upload the entire time, not sure how, but I believe it was a maint built upload. Nontheless, the law stated "The firing of bluespace artillery can not be harmful to humans". I completely ignore this law because I am on basically crewsimov, none of my laws stated anything about human harm, it was crewmember harm. I proceed to keep him from the BSA, he gets sick with diseases and whatnot, realizing that he was actually sick with a harmful disease, I let him out of where I locked him at. He started calling me rogue (not sure exactly when he started, but it was around this time, could've been earlier or later). Sec officer, using the now overpowered launchpads, teleports my core to engineering, cards me, and confirms over comms that I am not rogue. He then returns me to the core. Captain, to what I can recall, continued calling me rogue. Some time later, I get PDA'd from the "captain" with WGW. At that time, I literally was looking for an excuse to shut the captain up because from that point I was literally fighting the captain in an indirect way, and so I thought, "This is the perfect chance to shut him up once and for all". Little did I know that it was a comms agent, however, I had absolutely no way of recognizing that was a comms agent, I didn't really do much to hurt him, he was literally dying on his own (not sure exactly what was happening with him, but he was vomiting A LOT, I believe he hand teleport). He was stuck in the wall for a while, I bolted the doors to the rooms with the walls, hoping to kill him, someone rescues him however. I'll be honest, I don't really remember what was happening after that, because I was too busy with BeeSting in admin issues. BeeSting apparentally gives me a yellow warning stating "Warned- Attempted killing the captain as the AI for getting a PDA message with WGW under the captain's name (comms agent). Be absolutely sure of their identity before validding.", which, as I have mentioned before, I had absolutely zero way of making sure that he was the actual captain, and the captain was just so annoying that, again, as I said before, I was just begging for an excuse to get rid of him. If I had allowed him to fire the BSA, well, there were two people in botany, one was in direct line of fire, not sure if there was anyone in atmos, but firing that BSA would have been certain to kill someone and ruin 2 departments, that includes atmos. Apparentally BeeSting later replies and says "The captain didn't want to fire the BSA, he said it would've been a bad idea to". He only said this to BeeSting, in no way did he say this to me OR the crew, and judging by his previous very desperate attempts to fire the BSA, I used common sense and concluded that he still wanted to fire it. Later he blows all 3 of my borgs which weren't even trying to kill him, according to what I saw. Even after the sec officer cards me and confirms over comms that I wasn't malf/rogue in any way. BeeSting later blames it on me because "I didn't confirm that he was the sender", and as I said, there was an absolute lack of way that I could've proved that it wasn't him, and therefore I believe that I do not deserve this warning.
Sorry if I made this a massive block of text. I hope that this complaint would be taken into consideration. Thank you.
Edit: On a side note, 2 people in OOC agreed with me after the round ended.
Edit2: I also believe that this entire issue would've been resolved if an admin had responded quicker/was ingame, BeeSting took a while to get to the server, and by the time he arrived, stuff was way downhill.