[NecromancerAnne][Hulkamania] deedubya - Incredibly poor handling of a ban appeal
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:03 am
When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): Forums
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: deedubya (not my account; it's someone else's)
Admin: NecromancerAnne and Hulkamania
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE: Not Applicable
Detailed summary: Hulkamania recently closed this ban appeal (which was made against a ban given by NecromancerAnne): https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23648
The tldr; of that ban appeal is that a guy walked into chemistry (through a bolted open door) and requested medical assistance, the two chemists wordlessly killed him, the guy ahelped the chemists, the chemists cloned the guy, then the guy demanded that the chemists give him his stuff back, at which point the chemists killed him AGAIN (but the guy fought back this time). The guy who walked into chemistry was the one who was banned for this, not the chemists (although the chemists were warned). Apparently, this was because he had ahelped about the situation and then tried to resolve it himself ICly... But this was literally just him asking for his stuff back and defending himself when he was attacked again. He wasn't SEEKING a new conflict, he just wanted his stuff back (which the chemists apparently thought was something that he deserved to die for). Furthermore, NecromancerAnne had given deedubya (the player of "the guy" in the story above) no indication that they were resolving the situation/conflict through administrative means.
How the hell is ANY of this deedubya's fault? Was he supposed to just stand there and die without fighting back AGAIN because an admin MIGHT have seen his ahelp and be talking to the chemists about a PREVIOUS CONFLICT without telling deedubya that they were doing so?
As far as I am aware, the ban appeal has been closed and the note from the ban appeal hasn't been removed from deedubya's account. If the note from the ban had been removed, I wouldn't bother complaining here, but it hasn't been removed and could cause future administrative actions/punishments against deedubya to be more harsh (per the precedent set in that one ban appeal that I don't have a link to right now)... because deedubya didn't know that NecromancerAnne was already resolving a somewhat separate situation/conflict.
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: deedubya (not my account; it's someone else's)
Admin: NecromancerAnne and Hulkamania
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE: Not Applicable
Detailed summary: Hulkamania recently closed this ban appeal (which was made against a ban given by NecromancerAnne): https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23648
The tldr; of that ban appeal is that a guy walked into chemistry (through a bolted open door) and requested medical assistance, the two chemists wordlessly killed him, the guy ahelped the chemists, the chemists cloned the guy, then the guy demanded that the chemists give him his stuff back, at which point the chemists killed him AGAIN (but the guy fought back this time). The guy who walked into chemistry was the one who was banned for this, not the chemists (although the chemists were warned). Apparently, this was because he had ahelped about the situation and then tried to resolve it himself ICly... But this was literally just him asking for his stuff back and defending himself when he was attacked again. He wasn't SEEKING a new conflict, he just wanted his stuff back (which the chemists apparently thought was something that he deserved to die for). Furthermore, NecromancerAnne had given deedubya (the player of "the guy" in the story above) no indication that they were resolving the situation/conflict through administrative means.
How the hell is ANY of this deedubya's fault? Was he supposed to just stand there and die without fighting back AGAIN because an admin MIGHT have seen his ahelp and be talking to the chemists about a PREVIOUS CONFLICT without telling deedubya that they were doing so?
As far as I am aware, the ban appeal has been closed and the note from the ban appeal hasn't been removed from deedubya's account. If the note from the ban had been removed, I wouldn't bother complaining here, but it hasn't been removed and could cause future administrative actions/punishments against deedubya to be more harsh (per the precedent set in that one ban appeal that I don't have a link to right now)... because deedubya didn't know that NecromancerAnne was already resolving a somewhat separate situation/conflict.