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AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:07 pm
by Astriker
When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): Manuel
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: Astriker
Admin:Wubli
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE:127877
Detailed summary:
I sent a AHELP because someone was spamming WGW on common.

PM to-Admins: Bartholomew Stephensonis spamming wgw in common
Admin PM from-Wubli: kill them
PM to-Admins: Thats not MRP of you.
Admin PM from-Wubli: horny people have no rights, astriker
PM to-Admins: Its a MRP server. and im sick of admins treating it like LRP
Admin PM from-Wubli: horny people have no rights, astriker

This kind of thing that happens is ridiculous. I hate it when the admins on MRP servers treat it like LRP. yeah its wrong to spam WGW over common but the admins encouraging validhunting sooooo dosent belong on MRP. If it was on LRP then it would be fine.

Re: AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:34 pm
by Arathian
WGW is not bannable (unless done so frequently in different rounds that it crosses a line). It just makes you valid.

This has been a long, long, long, long precedent and Wubli acted entirely correct in telling you that.

Also, WGW is tradition. There are other servers with a huge stick up their arse if that's your thing.

Re: AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:39 pm
by RiskySikh
My guy, if you read any smut or copypasta your are pretty much valid, even on bagil, sybil, event hall, and terry. I mean read copypastas all the time and I get killed for it, but I deserve it.

Re: AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:40 pm
by Astriker
Arathian wrote:WGW is not bannable (unless done so frequently in different rounds that it crosses a line). It just makes you valid.

This has been a long, long, long, long precedent and Wubli acted entirely correct in telling you that.

Also, WGW is tradition. There are other servers with a huge stick up their arse if that's your thing.

Its on MRP and he shouldent be sending people out to go validhunt

Re: AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:40 pm
by Astriker
RiskySikh wrote:My guy, if you read any smut or copypasta your are pretty much valid, even on bagil, sybil, event hall, and terry. I mean read copypastas all the time and I get killed for it, but I deserve it.

This happened on the MRP server (Manuel)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:42 pm
by RiskySikh
PostThis post was deleted by Arianya on Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:28 pm.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:57 pm
by Copybass
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:18 pm
by RiskySikh
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:22 pm
by Boris
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Re: AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:29 pm
by Arianya
Please refrain from peanut posting.

To lend some context to this interaction, during the round in question the complainant in this case ahelped repeatedly about relatively minor if not outright IC issues and received a note to the effect of needing to cool down on ahelping (not from wubli)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:14 am
by cacogen
PostThis post was deleted by Arianya on Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:18 am.
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Re: AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:01 am
by wubli
post the entire ahelp coward

Re: AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:05 am
by wubli
you know what i'll do it myself. this is the ENTIRE THING
[2020-01-10 21:34:41.624] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #3: Astriker/(ROOMBA): Bartholomew Stephensonis spamming wgw in common
[2020-01-10 21:35:07.835] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): kill them
[2020-01-10 21:35:17.745] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Astriker/(ROOMBA)->Wubli/(Jill DeSouza): Thats not MRP of you.
[2020-01-10 21:35:37.047] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): horny people have no rights, astriker
[2020-01-10 21:35:49.937] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Astriker/(ROOMBA)->Wubli/(Jill DeSouza): I honestly find if very odd that the admins dont even want to enfore MRP rules
[2020-01-10 21:36:06.706] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Astriker/(ROOMBA)->Wubli/(Jill DeSouza): Its a MRP server. and im sick of admins treating it like LRP
[2020-01-10 21:36:18.304] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): horny people have no rights, astriker
[2020-01-10 21:36:33.495] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Astriker/(ROOMBA)->Wubli/(Jill DeSouza): badmins get reported Wubli
[2020-01-10 21:36:55.195] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): are you threatening to report me because i told you to kill the guy spamming toy story porn
[2020-01-10 21:37:50.744] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Astriker/(ROOMBA)->Wubli/(Jill DeSouza): its MRP... you dont just go validhunting. yes its very wrong but you as a admin can ban them then make their body dissapear. its best not to ruin the atmosphere of the game
[2020-01-10 21:41:19.562] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): bro i'm just messing with you honestly, i do not appreciate you trying to call me a bad admin or get on a high horse because muh mrp. i love rp. if you really want to argue about it, they could be roleplaying an insane person, but it's probably just someone trying to mess around. in that case, you can arrest them, have a trial about it, whatever. you don't need to ahelp it, because i would gib them otherwise. call it god's punishment if you'd like, i despise wgw posters. low effort porn posters should fuck off, hence why i told you to kill them. if you wanted to go for the mrp approach then you don't need my approval for it.
[2020-01-10 21:41:47.463] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Astriker/(ROOMBA)->Wubli/(Jill DeSouza): its literally in the rules saying that you cant RP as a insane person
[2020-01-10 21:42:10.723] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): insane means you cannot kill people not yell stupid stuff over comms please don't try to explain the rules to me
[2020-01-10 21:45:08.911] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): i will be leaving soon do you need my assistance in any way
[2020-01-10 21:51:21.864] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #3: Astriker/(ROOMBA): Bartholomew Stephenson is spamming wgw in chat. I already made a report but nothing was done
[2020-01-10 21:51:33.719] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): i literally asked you if you still needed my assistance and you didn't respond
[2020-01-10 21:51:51.522] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Astriker/(ROOMBA)->Wubli/(Jill DeSouza): the original ticket was asking about That.
[2020-01-10 21:52:10.063] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Wubli/(Jill DeSouza)->Astriker/(ROOMBA): its being handled as we speak

YOU chose to ignore my pm telling you that if you really wanted MRP you could handle it yourself. i do agree, though, that someone like that was just looking for trouble, hence why i noted them about it, and told you i was handling it.
yet, you decided to go for a complaint because i didnt comply with what you asked, and you even tried to twist my words and explain the rules to me. if you choose to nitpick the words you don't like that's on you, not me.
tl;dr if you're going to complain about an ahelp at least post all of it

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:49 am
by Analbifida
PostThis post was deleted by Arianya on Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:59 am.
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Re: AdminTrainer Wubli encouraging validhunting

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:06 am
by Hulkamania
This isn't going to be upheld. Wubli acted against the person in question (with a note) and simply stated that you could remove them from the round yourself if that was the path of resolution you wanted. You also garnered a reputation for being the kind of person who ahelps frequently over a vast multitude of minor incidents (something that you were banned for) which no doubt contributed to the curt response on Wubli's part.

Wubli was not being neglectful nor were they being abusive or unjust in their duties as an administrator.