I will address the specific details of your complaint in a moment, but first allow me to speak in general terms regarding admin spawning of ghostroles:
As Ari said previously, admin-spawned ghostroles are not precious. To elaborate: admins may swap players in and out of them as they see fit.
ERTs are in no way an exception to the above.
Emergency Response Teams are - in particular - always close-run things for admins. One rarely spawns an ERT when time
isn't of the essence and the simple act of herding five players of wildly varying experience into the round can be shockingly time-consuming. ERT players get swapped out all the time for dicking around, ignoring their orders, disconnecting, etc...
To speak specifically to the events that prompted this complaint:
As TheMidnightRose explained, you were in fact the
second player to inhabit the body of Engineer Palmer. The first player disconnected shortly after taking the role, at which point TheMidnightRose offered it up to the ghosts and you managed to snag it:
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[2020-03-17 03:30:42.849] ADMIN: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) has offered control of (Yaboi69[DC]/(Engineer Palmer)) to ghosts.
[2020-03-17 03:30:55.155] ACCESS: Mob Login: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) was assigned to a /mob/living/carbon/human
You spawn on the CentCom ferry, which is already docked at the station. You make a SUPER FUNNY JOKE and then attempt to make contact with your fellow teammates:
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[2020-03-17 03:30:55.157] GAME: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) Client HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) has taken ownership of mob Engineer Palmer(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Transport Shuttle (134, 203, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:31:00.095] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) "I LOVE TO MURDER" (Transport Shuttle (134, 203, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:31:14.517] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "Wat do?" (language: Galactic Common) (Transport Shuttle (134, 203, 2))
You then spend a
minute and forty-five seconds dicking around in arrivals, talking about Geiger counters over the same CentCom radio channel that your teammates are actively using:
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[2020-03-17 03:31:17.738] TCOMMS: korusho/(Medical Officer Laborde) [CentCom] "Holy shit" (language: Galactic Common) (Atmospherics Engine (106, 176, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:31:20.694] TCOMMS: DimmaDunk/(Sebastian Schrader) [Medical] "Because Centcomm is incompetent as fuck." (language: Galactic Common) (Morgue (162, 73, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:31:28.610] TCOMMS: ScrimbleBungus/(Commander Bloise) [CentCom] "Where are you Laborde?" (language: Galactic Common) (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 179, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:31:37.220] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "I'm on a shuttle on station" (language: Galactic Common) (Transport Shuttle (134, 202, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:31:40.263] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "Seems weird" (language: Galactic Common) (Transport Shuttle (134, 201, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:31:55.229] TCOMMS: korusho/(Medical Officer Laborde) [CentCom] "OH FUCK ME" (language: Galactic Common) (Port Bow Maintenance (113, 176, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:31:59.513] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "My geiger counter is going ballistic" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:32:00.621] TCOMMS: korusho/(Medical Officer Laborde) [CentCom] "IM RADDED TO HELL AND BACK" (language: Galactic Common) (Port Bow Maintenance (113, 176, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:32:07.785] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "Do I even have a geiger counter?" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:32:14.414] TCOMMS: korusho/(Medical Officer Laborde) [CentCom] "Keep away from engineering! It's fucking chernobyl in there!" (language: Galactic Common) (Port Bow Maintenance (113, 169, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:32:20.215] TCOMMS: ScrimbleBungus/(Commander Bloise) [CentCom] "I think we all are now, I can hear the clicks going like crazy" (language: Galactic Common) (Central Primary Hallway (164, 148, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:32:24.009] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "I don't. Why do I have a geiger counter?" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:32:35.582] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "I don't have a geiger counter. WHY DO I HEAR TICKING." (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:32:45.690] TCOMMS: korusho/(Medical Officer Laborde) [CentCom] "Sir I recommend we seal engineering off." (language: Galactic Common) (Atmospherics Engine (111, 176, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:32:52.515] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "Abandon engineering" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
It is important to note two things here:
1. The CentCom radio traffic offers clear and obvious clues as to the possible location of your teammates.
2. At no point do you ask your teammates for their location.
Growing impatient, TheMidnightRose subtlemessages you, offering fair warning as to what might happen if you don't get moving:
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[2020-03-17 03:32:54.880] ADMIN: SubtlePM: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) -> HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) : Please go team up with the other members of the ERT, or I am going to swap you out.
Hearing this, you respond:
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[2020-03-17 03:33:01.466] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "Get the crew safely to centcomm" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:33:20.771] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "It'd be nice to team up with the other ERT members EXCEPT THE SHUTTLE LEFT" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:33:26.179] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "Great planning, centcomm" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:33:34.034] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "Fucking idiots" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:33:45.854] TCOMMS: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) [CentCom] "Gonna hide in this locker now" (language: Galactic Common) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
Seeing this, TheMidnightRose offers you up to the ghosts, surprising no one but you, apparently:
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[2020-03-17 03:33:49.532] ADMIN: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) has offered control of (HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer)) to ghosts.
The two of you then have this delightful conversation in deadchat:
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[2020-03-17 03:34:01.792] GAME: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) Client HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) has taken ownership of mob Engineer Palmer(/mob/dead/observer) (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (137, 194, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:07.451] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "Fucking admeme" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:08.790] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "Bro" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:15.315] ADMIN: DSAY: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) "I gave you a role to help the station" (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 177, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:21.000] ADMIN: DSAY: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) "You decided to hide in a locker" (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 159, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:21.246] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "I wasn't told to get back to other team members UNTIL AFTER THE SHUTTLE LEFT" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:31.814] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "THE SHUTTLE LEFT AFTER YOU TOLD ME TO GET BACK TO THE CENTCOMM MEMBERS" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:32.670] ADMIN: DSAY: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) "Everyone on your team is on the god damn station" (Central Primary Hallway (133, 137, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:40.828] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:49.837] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "I ASSUMED EVERYONE WAS ON THE CENTCOMM SPAWN POINT" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:52.611] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "NOBODY EVEN TOLD ME" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:34:55.831] ADMIN: DSAY: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) "All you had to do is say 'Commander, where are you all?" (Engineering (101, 123, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:35:07.553] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "I had exactly 15 seconds between your whisper and my ghosting" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:35:08.983] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "Fuck off" (Vacant Office (137, 191, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:35:36.176] SAY: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) (DEAD) "I ghosted youwhen you said that you were and I quote 'Engineer Palmer says, "Gonna hide in this locker now"'" (Engineering Foyer (96, 136, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:35:52.907] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "I had an admin whisper in my ear to get back to my team members and I assumed they were at the same spawn point that everyone spawns at in 99% of cases" (Chapel (140, 52, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:35:57.606] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "I had no other info" (Departure Lounge (143, 57, 2))
[2020-03-17 03:36:04.587] SAY: HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) (DEAD) "Don't make me fucking admin complaint you" (Departure Lounge (143, 57, 2))
I'll sum things up like this:
If, as you claim, you were confused by...
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[2020-03-17 03:32:54.880] ADMIN: SubtlePM: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) -> HorzBor/(Engineer Palmer) : Please go team up with the other members of the ERT, or I am going to swap you out.
...you had a number of options. You could have ahelped or prayed for clarification. Heck, you could have even expressed your confusion in IC chat.
Instead, just before you
hid in a goddamn locker, you took it upon yourself to say a bunch of rude shit that made you sound completely uncooperative.
Considering the way you were acting and the things you said, it's hardly shocking that TheMidnightRose offered you up instead of burning even more time explaining to you the particulars of a situation that were obvious to everyone else.
If you would like to prevent something similar from happening to you in the future, I might suggest being somewhat less of a stubborn, loudmouth jerk the next time an opportunity such as this one comes along.
This complaint is not being upheld.
Coconutwarrior97: Do not uphold.
Phuzzylodgik: Do not uphold.
TWATICUS: Do not uphold.