[Gogo9001] - Loojee - LRP event done with no respect to players.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:42 am
When and where incident occured: Dec. 21, 2020, Manuel game server.
Byond account and character name: loojee (Kether Mavet/Jeremy Stamos, I guess.)
Admin: Gogo9001
Round ID: R152668 (https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/152668)
Detailed summary:
I'd like to preface this whole thing by saying that I thought the whole thing was hilarious. It was a very good idea for a joke round, and really my primary problem is with the execution of the joke and not the joke itself. Essentially what happened is that Gogo gave every player a random name and appearance which led to some wacky shit which I appreciate.
Second, I know that posts about events and event feedback are supposed to go somewhere else, but in my mind this isn't an event. It's the pressing of one button at the start of the round with no actual interaction between admin and player like there would be in a CC event or the like.
The reasons I think this was bad are:
1. The admin(s) did not consult the players at all whether they were okay with a joke round or the concept in general. I am aware that a lot of the humor comes from surprise but even just a poll like 'Funny round yes/no' would have greatly improved the situation.
2. While I personally didn't mind this joke, I know there are some people that did and performing a gimmick that was so round-altering, even if that round alteration wasn't necessarily intended, was unfair to the kinds of people that wouldn't appreciate it. A lot of the actual memery in this round came from the crew freaking out about the changes and killing themselves and causing general mayhem, and a lot of people don't like that sort of thing, especially when they join an MRP server not expecting it.
3. The admins did not force extended/secret extended beforehand. This led to a lot of people getting antag in a round that was essentially wasted, and it just seems kinda mean to take away people's chance to have a fun antag round and cause mayhem.
I would have at the very least liked antag tokens to be handed out following the round, after seeing how it went, if you can't just set it to sextended beforehand. This problem isn't quite as severe, just a mild annoyance.
4. My fourth problem actually does have to do with the joke itself, however it would be entirely negated if a poll had gone out beforehand or any other sort of interaction with the players.
This kind of thing does not at all fit a server that is even attempting to do any sort of roleplay. I'm aware that the atmosphere of the game hinges on silliness, but eliminating the central aspect of RP (characters) without any warning at all to the players kills any possibility for meaningful roleplay or storytelling in the round. A lot of people play here to build a character, build relationships, and tell stories, and things like this with no warning show very little respect for those kinds of people.
Finally, I would also like to mention that the admin that triggered this event is not even a Manuel admin, and I personally don't appreciate someone that doesn't understand the culture of the server triggering a borderline NRP event like this one without consulting the players. Just seems a little bit odd to me.
This just felt like an ill-conceived 'event' that was done with very little respect to the actual players partaking in the event. While I had no problem with it, others did, and it seems that this goes against the culture the server is trying to create.
Byond account and character name: loojee (Kether Mavet/Jeremy Stamos, I guess.)
Admin: Gogo9001
Round ID: R152668 (https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/152668)
Detailed summary:
I'd like to preface this whole thing by saying that I thought the whole thing was hilarious. It was a very good idea for a joke round, and really my primary problem is with the execution of the joke and not the joke itself. Essentially what happened is that Gogo gave every player a random name and appearance which led to some wacky shit which I appreciate.
Second, I know that posts about events and event feedback are supposed to go somewhere else, but in my mind this isn't an event. It's the pressing of one button at the start of the round with no actual interaction between admin and player like there would be in a CC event or the like.
The reasons I think this was bad are:
1. The admin(s) did not consult the players at all whether they were okay with a joke round or the concept in general. I am aware that a lot of the humor comes from surprise but even just a poll like 'Funny round yes/no' would have greatly improved the situation.
2. While I personally didn't mind this joke, I know there are some people that did and performing a gimmick that was so round-altering, even if that round alteration wasn't necessarily intended, was unfair to the kinds of people that wouldn't appreciate it. A lot of the actual memery in this round came from the crew freaking out about the changes and killing themselves and causing general mayhem, and a lot of people don't like that sort of thing, especially when they join an MRP server not expecting it.
3. The admins did not force extended/secret extended beforehand. This led to a lot of people getting antag in a round that was essentially wasted, and it just seems kinda mean to take away people's chance to have a fun antag round and cause mayhem.
I would have at the very least liked antag tokens to be handed out following the round, after seeing how it went, if you can't just set it to sextended beforehand. This problem isn't quite as severe, just a mild annoyance.
4. My fourth problem actually does have to do with the joke itself, however it would be entirely negated if a poll had gone out beforehand or any other sort of interaction with the players.
This kind of thing does not at all fit a server that is even attempting to do any sort of roleplay. I'm aware that the atmosphere of the game hinges on silliness, but eliminating the central aspect of RP (characters) without any warning at all to the players kills any possibility for meaningful roleplay or storytelling in the round. A lot of people play here to build a character, build relationships, and tell stories, and things like this with no warning show very little respect for those kinds of people.
Finally, I would also like to mention that the admin that triggered this event is not even a Manuel admin, and I personally don't appreciate someone that doesn't understand the culture of the server triggering a borderline NRP event like this one without consulting the players. Just seems a little bit odd to me.
This just felt like an ill-conceived 'event' that was done with very little respect to the actual players partaking in the event. While I had no problem with it, others did, and it seems that this goes against the culture the server is trying to create.