Thunder12345 Complaint by Analbackwash

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Thunder12345 Complaint by Analbackwash

Post by Analbackwash » #599730

When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): In-game, Sybil
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: Analbackwash Teeko Brah
Admin: Thunder12345
Round ID: 161874
Detailed Summary: A chemist blew a traitor up and killed himself the traitor and 2-3 others including me, chaplain gathers the dead bodies and dusts them. I open a ticket saying "chap is dusting bodies". Thunder12345 replies "Looking into it, what happened exactly?" I say "just starts gathering corpses and dusts them on altar i dont know???" not really understanding why the chaplain was doing this. Thunder12345 closes the ticket saying "Looks like they were monkeyhumas or something and not crew" and immediately logs out without waiting to hear my final frantic ahelp explaining I was one of the 2-3 people dusted and i was not "monkeyhumas or something".
Highly frustrating mainly because I was killed on a tot round where I took no actions.
I can only imagine how the others felt getting dusted instead of having the chance at revival.
No other admins were on or hopped on.

Edit:
From what I could find in the logs apon a cursory glance he set 2 "nokey" mobs on fire and dusted them

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[2021-05-08 18:57:35.191] GAME: BeezKneez7/(Leonard Dickinson) set *no key*/(Alfredo Greene) on fire with the �Zippo lighter at Chapel (181,140,4)
[2021-05-08 18:59:09.760] GAME: BeezKneez7/(Leonard Dickinson) set *no key*/(Arabella Jyllian) on fire with the �Zippo lighter at Chapel (184,141,4)
Afterwards he dusted 3 more people, which I am assuming was me and 1-2 actual players that died in medical (I cannot find the names only that there were 3 more dusts)
He later went on to say this in OOC

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[2021-05-08 19:18:30.433] OOC: BeezKneez7/(Leonard Dickinson) "as a burning sect chaplain am I allowed to burn bodies that I find lying around, I asked for an admin and didn't get a response" (Starboard Primary Hallway (173,128,4))
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Re: Thunder12345 Complaint by Analbackwash

Post by Thunder11 » #599736

Perhaps put that information in your initial ahelp if it's so important. It's not my job to interrogate every person that ahelps for details of the situation that any reasonable person would've included upfront. I had you telling me the chap was dusting corpses, no reason to believe from that statement that you were one of those corpses. I checked the logs, found some instances of the chaplain killing monkey humans, and so from the information given to me this looked like a pretty clear case of nothing having been done wrong.

Please try to remember that admins are not telepathic and we have to rely on the information the player who ahelps gives us.
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Re: Thunder12345 Complaint by Analbackwash

Post by Coconutwarrior97 » #600295

We took some time to look through the logs,
Heres the ahelp logs,
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[2021-05-08 19:05:59.250] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #1: Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah): chap is dusting bodies
[2021-05-08 19:05:59.548] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #1: Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah): chap is dusting bodies - heard by 0 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[2021-05-08 19:07:44.031] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Emily Vargas)->Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah): Looking into it, what happened exactly?
[2021-05-08 19:08:11.802] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah)->Thunder12345/(Emily Vargas): just starts gathering corpses and dusts them on altar i dont know???
[2021-05-08 19:09:02.923] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Thunder12345/(Emily Vargas)->Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah): Looks like they were monkeyhumas or something and not crew
[2021-05-08 19:09:04.258] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket <A HREF='?_src_=holder;admin_token=03244878903434780895316191894600;ahelp=[0x21038f64];ahelp_action=ticket'>#1</A> resolved by <a href='?priv_msg=thunder12345'>Thunder12345</a>/(Emily Vargas)
[2021-05-08 19:09:34.374] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #2: Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah): they were crew did you even view logs, me and another were some of the people - heard by 0 non-AFK admins who have +BAN. (thunder had left by this point)
From this we can see thunder logged in to handle your ticket.

Some attack logs we can see the chaplain lighting two folks on fire, neither which were on the crew manifest,
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[2021-05-08 18:56:41.911] ATTACK: BeezKneez7/(Leonard Dickinson) has attacked *no key*/(Alfredo Greene) with �_Zippo lighter (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BURN) (NEWHP: 96.3) (Chapel (181,140,4))
(lots of these)
[2021-05-08 18:59:09.762] ATTACK: BeezKneez7/(Leonard Dickinson) has attacked *no key*/(Arabella Jyllian) with �_Zippo lighter (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BURN) (NEWHP: -212.9) (Chapel (184,141,4))
(same above)
Logs relating to you:
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[2021-05-08 19:02:53.979] GAME: SungazerSol/(River Thames) bumped into Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah) and set them on fire
[2021-05-08 19:03:04.197] ATTACK: Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah) has died (BRUTE: 178.9, BURN: 10.5, TOX: 31.2, OXY: 10.6667, CLONE: 0) (Medbay Aft (159,115,4))
[2021-05-08 19:03:04.191] EMOTE: Analbackwash/(Teeko Brah) seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless... (Medbay Aft (159,115,4))
[2021-05-08 19:03:59.037] ATTACK: BeezKneez7/(Leonard Dickinson) has grabbed *no key*/(Teeko Brah) passive grab (NEWHP: -336) (Medbay Aft (157,115,4))
[2021-05-08 19:04:24.735] ATTACK: BeezKneez7/(Leonard Dickinson) has thrown PDA-Teeko Brah (Station Engineer) (Research Division (169,115,4))
[2021-05-08 19:05:49.684] ATTACK: BeezKneez7/(Leonard Dickinson) has grabbed *no key*/(Teeko Brah) passive grab (NEWHP: -417.3) (Chapel (183,141,4))
Now if you're looking just for people the chap set on fire that first set was what you'll find. However, from what we can determine the manner in which you were set on fire was via your corpse being dragged from medbay to the chapel and dragged onto the already raging fire.
Which is very easy to miss with how logs work. As an administrator you would likely be ctrl+fing "has lit on fire" or "has attacked" rather than dragged actions.

Its always best to include as much information as you can in an ahelp, since logs can be a bit tricky and stuff like this can be missed. We don't think Thunder did anything which would warrant us upholding this complaint.

Headmin Votes:
Coconutwarrior97: Do not uphold.
Jimmius: Do not uphold.
Naloac: Do not uphold.
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