Okand37
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:14 pm
A minor complaint about my interaction with them about a week ago within an adminhelp. I work like 60 hours a week so I didn't have time last week. I'll give a brief story of the events that lead up to what happened but my complaint is mostly about their attitude in helping direct the playstyle of newer players away from being toxic and walking the line of a ban.
I end up being HoP and the captain who is clearly a new player walks into my office. He leaves the doors open and an assistant, who is also clearly a new player, and the chaplain stumble inside as the doors close behind them, and the captain leaves. The Assistant spews out something in a mix of caps and gibberish and starts swinging a toolbox around, and the chaplain doesn't do much but stand there. I find disablers to be completely ineffective and shoot the assistant into crit while searching for my cuffs. As I was completely unprepared for this and caught with my pants down. The AI shits the bed and screams murder, and the chaplain starts bible thumping our now even more mentally challenged friend. I pull out my baton and keep him chain stunned, but the chaplain keeps helping him up and he's running around everywhere. Eventually the HoS shows up in full gear, thank god I though. As I'm chasing the assistant around my office I accidentally hit the HoS one time, the chaplain helps the assistant up again. And this time grabs the HoS's gun and stuns me.
The HoS cuffs me and drags me to the brig and the chaplain drags the assistant who is also cuffed to the brig. I'm confused so I ask the HoS what is going on and he states I'm being arrested for interfering with his arrest. I'm completely dumbfounded by this logic as I was the person who was potentially under threat, and by the fact that the HoS is arresting another head which isn't something he's suppose to do without the captains permission from what I recall. Obviously if I was running around handing out all access, or had a double bladed e-sword I wouldn't contest the arrest.
During my time in the brig, the HoS lets the chaplain into my cell where he beats me until I'm retarded. He then lets the chaplain help himself to my stuff outside my cell which consists of my retractable baton. But nothing super important really as he bibles my head till my brain oozes out of my ears. I'm brigged for 4 and a half minutes, and I ask the HoS why and ask the captain what's going on and for help. I'm ignored as the captain is a new player and fucked off to stare at the xenobiology players breed slimes for the whole round. The HoS then fucks off completely ignoring any attempt of conversation as to why I'm arrested outside I interfered with an arrest.
So I figure I'll adminhelp as this is all in all rather shitty behavior for a player, have the admin tell them. Hey cut that out and really not cool and you're being a dick. But rather I get a response of it's an IC issue. I disagree with this, but Okand insists. I tell them that this really isn't something that you want to remain an IC issue as you're not gonna like the results of leaving something like this in the hands of players. In the heat of the moment I most likely worded that like K gonna space him thanks for the okay. They continue on and say if I escalate the situation anymore it will no longer be an IC issue and they will have to step in.
So we get into this big debate of if the HoS had the right to arrest my as the HoP because I obviously clicked on him by accident while trying to contain a grey tider. Okand insists that I could of had lethal intent because my weapon could bi-pass the riotshield and could of killed the HoS, and the intent is all that matters on the HoS brigging the HoP. I disagreed and still do with that and state that it's retarded to brig someone for an obvious accident let alone let their stuff get stolen and beaten into a derp. I also state that it's their opinion on what lethal intention as literally anyone on station can have that and not following the simple rules. Primarily don't be a dick. I also said that if I was a sec officer and accidentally tased another member of sec trying to chase someone down that this wouldn't even be an argument. They told me not to rule lawyer them, and if I had a problem go to a headmin. I don't seek vengeance against the HoS which I planned on demoting him to an assistant due to fear of getting banned by Okand.
My only complaint is that we have a lot of new players coming into the server, I wasn't asking for a sec ban on the person being a dick. I just wanted them to know what they did was wrong, and I was told basically to deal with it. Maybe I'm wrong now, most likely I'm going to be told to deal with it again. Just felt like putting this out there for everyone to point and laugh how a downy assistant got me braindead and brigged for four and a half minutes.
I end up being HoP and the captain who is clearly a new player walks into my office. He leaves the doors open and an assistant, who is also clearly a new player, and the chaplain stumble inside as the doors close behind them, and the captain leaves. The Assistant spews out something in a mix of caps and gibberish and starts swinging a toolbox around, and the chaplain doesn't do much but stand there. I find disablers to be completely ineffective and shoot the assistant into crit while searching for my cuffs. As I was completely unprepared for this and caught with my pants down. The AI shits the bed and screams murder, and the chaplain starts bible thumping our now even more mentally challenged friend. I pull out my baton and keep him chain stunned, but the chaplain keeps helping him up and he's running around everywhere. Eventually the HoS shows up in full gear, thank god I though. As I'm chasing the assistant around my office I accidentally hit the HoS one time, the chaplain helps the assistant up again. And this time grabs the HoS's gun and stuns me.
The HoS cuffs me and drags me to the brig and the chaplain drags the assistant who is also cuffed to the brig. I'm confused so I ask the HoS what is going on and he states I'm being arrested for interfering with his arrest. I'm completely dumbfounded by this logic as I was the person who was potentially under threat, and by the fact that the HoS is arresting another head which isn't something he's suppose to do without the captains permission from what I recall. Obviously if I was running around handing out all access, or had a double bladed e-sword I wouldn't contest the arrest.
During my time in the brig, the HoS lets the chaplain into my cell where he beats me until I'm retarded. He then lets the chaplain help himself to my stuff outside my cell which consists of my retractable baton. But nothing super important really as he bibles my head till my brain oozes out of my ears. I'm brigged for 4 and a half minutes, and I ask the HoS why and ask the captain what's going on and for help. I'm ignored as the captain is a new player and fucked off to stare at the xenobiology players breed slimes for the whole round. The HoS then fucks off completely ignoring any attempt of conversation as to why I'm arrested outside I interfered with an arrest.
So I figure I'll adminhelp as this is all in all rather shitty behavior for a player, have the admin tell them. Hey cut that out and really not cool and you're being a dick. But rather I get a response of it's an IC issue. I disagree with this, but Okand insists. I tell them that this really isn't something that you want to remain an IC issue as you're not gonna like the results of leaving something like this in the hands of players. In the heat of the moment I most likely worded that like K gonna space him thanks for the okay. They continue on and say if I escalate the situation anymore it will no longer be an IC issue and they will have to step in.
So we get into this big debate of if the HoS had the right to arrest my as the HoP because I obviously clicked on him by accident while trying to contain a grey tider. Okand insists that I could of had lethal intent because my weapon could bi-pass the riotshield and could of killed the HoS, and the intent is all that matters on the HoS brigging the HoP. I disagreed and still do with that and state that it's retarded to brig someone for an obvious accident let alone let their stuff get stolen and beaten into a derp. I also state that it's their opinion on what lethal intention as literally anyone on station can have that and not following the simple rules. Primarily don't be a dick. I also said that if I was a sec officer and accidentally tased another member of sec trying to chase someone down that this wouldn't even be an argument. They told me not to rule lawyer them, and if I had a problem go to a headmin. I don't seek vengeance against the HoS which I planned on demoting him to an assistant due to fear of getting banned by Okand.
My only complaint is that we have a lot of new players coming into the server, I wasn't asking for a sec ban on the person being a dick. I just wanted them to know what they did was wrong, and I was told basically to deal with it. Maybe I'm wrong now, most likely I'm going to be told to deal with it again. Just felt like putting this out there for everyone to point and laugh how a downy assistant got me braindead and brigged for four and a half minutes.