oranges should not be a maintainer

[lzimann]

Bottom post of the previous page:

talk with kor, literally no one else can do anything about it

[iamgoofball]

It's irrelevant because this thread is about oranges' behavior, both recent and long-term. That doesn't mean that other matters are "not a problem", it just means that they should be discussed in another thread.

Ricegum, contradictions in what you see as abuse in a thread where you're whining about abuse isn't irrelevant.

[onleavedontatme]

Slig, where were you calling for a maintainer's removal when Joan admitted to using their own maintainer rank to ruin the reputation of PRs they don't like + abuse their powers ingame?

Irrelevant to this thread. If it's something you're concerned about, feel free to start a separate thread, and then I'll draw my conclusions from there. I'm sorry, but I'm not all-knowing, and I don't have eyes everywhere.

All you're doing now is deflecting, first onto me, and now onto Joan - if you're empty-handed when it comes to oranges, then feel free not to post at all.

This isn't irrelevant, why is this a problem when oranges does it but not when Joan does it?

Slig, where were you calling for a maintainer's removal when Joan admitted to using their own maintainer rank to ruin the reputation of PRs they don't like + abuse their powers ingame?

Slig not only said they wanted Joan gone they said it directly in conversation to you

Why do you make bad posts bman?

I like oranges but please post with honour even when defending him

???

[onleavedontatme]

Why was this made outside the shed

[cedarbridge]

Serious posting obviously.

[iamgoofball]

It's irrelevant because this thread is about oranges' behavior, both recent and long-term. That doesn't mean that other matters are "not a problem", it just means that they should be discussed in another thread.

Ricegum, contradictions in what you see as abuse in a thread where you're whining about abuse isn't irrelevant.

[oranges]

i may not agree with everything oranges does but if you dont think that all coders pursue both their own personal agendas / their circlejerk agendas, you have another thing coming. i wont say all, but the VAST majority of coders do not have the community's best interest in mind. im not saying this as some "OMG CONSPIRACY" crap, im saying it as a fact that i've reluctantly accepted as a dark spot on a server i otherwise love.

if he's trying to get rid of catpeople though, then he has my full support.

catpeople were a massive fucking mistake. from what i can gather they were a joke addition that people memed hard enough to turn serious, and now we're stuck with them. i personally dont care if catpeople play fucking normally but the minute you start pulling any "purr nyan nyan :3 pomf!" shit either ironically or unironically, you will be beaten and thrown down disposals just as fast as a lizard trying to erp.

its not funny. its creepy, unnecessary, and brings the entire server down by it's addition, let alone the retarded behavior some players show with them.



Can't wait for swarge to post my notes in an attempt to discredit me next instead of responding to the substance of my arguments

[Slignerd]

Sawrge still brings up a good point - most people complaining about catpeople also somehow happen to be shit players in general, which makes me think that catpeople's inclusion is a great deterrent for them.

[snip]

Stop spamming.

Why was this made outside the shed

Because I'm not shitposting, and I can't do anything about others shitposting in my thread, so we end up with lots of folks trying to deflect from the issue. The issue being that oranges actively attempts to spite the majority of our active playerbase.

[captain sawrge]

i may not agree with everything oranges does but if you dont think that all coders pursue both their own personal agendas / their circlejerk agendas, you have another thing coming. i wont say all, but the VAST majority of coders do not have the community's best interest in mind. im not saying this as some "OMG CONSPIRACY" crap, im saying it as a fact that i've reluctantly accepted as a dark spot on a server i otherwise love.

if he's trying to get rid of catpeople though, then he has my full support.

catpeople were a massive fucking mistake. from what i can gather they were a joke addition that people memed hard enough to turn serious, and now we're stuck with them. i personally dont care if catpeople play fucking normally but the minute you start pulling any "purr nyan nyan :3 pomf!" shit either ironically or unironically, you will be beaten and thrown down disposals just as fast as a lizard trying to erp.

its not funny. its creepy, unnecessary, and brings the entire server down by it's addition, let alone the retarded behavior some players show with them.



Can't wait for swarge to post my notes in an attempt to discredit me next instead of responding to the substance of my arguments

Im rubber u r glue

[Deitus]

Sawrge still brings up a good point - most people complaining about catpeople also somehow happen to be shit players in general, which makes me think that catpeople's inclusion is a great deterrent for them.
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Because I'm not shitposting, and I can't do anything about others shitposting in my thread, so we end up with lots of folks trying to deflect from the issue. The issue being that oranges actively attempts to spite the majority of our active playerbase.

>talks about deflection of issues
>deflects counterarguments by resorting to "you're shit"
and you wonder why people think this should be shedded?

furthermore, i would YET AGAIN PLEASE ask people to actually READ POSTS before replying. i swear to god it seems like people just speedread replies for a few things to cherrypick instead of actually reading the post and understanding the position they maintain. and wanting to keep catpeople for reasoning of "they deter shit players" (read: people i dont like) is kind of a shitty argument in the first place.

[captain sawrge]

But deitus one of the prime arguments for removing cat ears has been it will "deter people I don't like"

[Deitus]

But deitus one of the prime arguments for removing cat ears has been it will "deter people I don't like"

i can see that as a valid concern, but it seems like it would hardly be a deterrent if many current catperson players were here before they were implemented; i doubt they would leave just because they dont get to be special snowflakes anymore. if people leave the server due to a relatively recent addition being removed, in my opinion there's a low chance of them being heavily invested in /tg/ servers in the first place.

let me paraphrase my position on catpeople again: if they know they're nonhuman, they know they can and probably will be beat up for "nyan pomf" etc. behavior, and they ACCEPT that risk, then i see no problem; especially with catpeople that play the game regularly and dont let the extra pixels on their head and ass define them and their behavior. it seems like catpeople were overall a poor addition choice if only for the fact that it adds a lot of unnecessary drama to the game.

[Qbopper]

it's funny as fuck how this went from "oranges shouldn't be maintainer" to "deitus gets eternally btfo"

[captain sawrge]

Maybe the reason cats added so much drama is because a select group of silly people are making it out to be a huge deal and another group is straight up just pretending to be part of the former group to trollbfor reactions

[Slignerd]

resorting to "you're shit"

"they deter shit players" (read: people i dont like)

Folks like Fwoosh or Iamgoofball are pretty much objectively detrimental to the community, and Sawrge's posts exposed you as being another one of those folks who are trouble in general. There's nothing shameful about calling such people shit, or about wishing them gone.

wanting to keep catpeople for reasoning of "they deter shit players" is kind of a shitty argument in the first place.

Wanting to keep catpeople because they're a harmless gimmick that players enjoy which also happens to have the side effect of driving shitters crazy is pretty well-grounded if you ask me.

>force others
thats what ai laws do.

>repeating suggestive themes
on an 18+ server? heaven forbid.

>memes on /tg/
memes are literally part of the server

Okay, but if that's the position you want to maintain, then you should also retract your arguments such as "catpeople are forced onto me by existing", "catpeople are bad cause they repeat suggestive themes" or "catpeople are an unnecessary meme that doesn't belong on /tg/". It's amusing how your opinion on what is and isn't acceptable just changes on the fly.

[Qbopper]

Maybe the reason cats added so much drama is because a select group of silly people are making it out to be a huge deal and another group is straight up just pretending to be part of the former group to trollbfor reactions

sometimes i wish cats were removed to remove the drama but then that means they would be reinforced in their starting shit over nothing policy

[Atlanta-Ned]

Maybe the reason cats added so much drama is because a select group of silly people are making it out to be a huge deal and another group is straight up just pretending to be part of the former group to trollbfor reactions

sometimes i wish cats were removed to remove the drama but then that means they would be reinforced in their starting shit over nothing policy

It's secborgs all over again

[cedarbridge]

Maybe the reason cats added so much drama is because a select group of silly people are making it out to be a huge deal and another group is straight up just pretending to be part of the former group to trollbfor reactions

sometimes i wish cats were removed to remove the drama but then that means they would be reinforced in their starting shit over nothing policy

It's secborgs all over again

You saw this coming too huh

[captain sawrge]

I mean at least secborgs influenced the game in some major way, this is literally a cosmetic.

[iamgoofball]

It's irrelevant because this thread is about oranges' behavior, both recent and long-term. That doesn't mean that other matters are "not a problem", it just means that they should be discussed in another thread.

Ricegum, contradictions in what you see as abuse in a thread where you're whining about abuse isn't irrelevant.

Answer the question you pussy bitch.

[Deitus]

Folks like Fwoosh or Iamgoofball are pretty much objectively detrimental to the community, and Sawrge's posts exposed you as being another one of those folks who are trouble in general. There's nothing shameful about calling such people shit, or about wishing them gone.

i dont like those two either but even then i know that its subjective whether they're detrimental or not. and setting aside the fact that sawrge had no business in the first place making my notes public, i a) gave proper backstory and explanation to each notes in context and b) still has nothing to do with my opinion in the first place. if i wanted to sink to that level i'd go through your post history, cherrypick a few quotes, and post them here saying "slingeris' opinion should be discarded, look at how they've shitposted in the past!" but i dont, because its a stupid non-argument that has no bearing on the topic at hand.

Wanting to keep catpeople because they're a harmless gimmick that players enjoy which also happens to have the side effect of driving shitters crazy is pretty well-grounded if you ask me.

take a second and step back to read this, and realize how stupid this sounds. "i want this to stay because it makes people mad." seriously?

Okay, but if that's the position you want to maintain, then you should also retract your arguments such as "catpeople are forced onto me by existing", "catpeople are bad cause they repeat suggestive themes" or "catpeople are an unnecessary meme that doesn't belong on /tg/". It's amusing how your opinion on what is and isn't acceptable just changes on the fly.

ok i've been trying to gently nudge this but it has been continually ignored, so allow me to make this as noticeable as possible to try and get through to you.

READ MY POSTS AND COMPREHEND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING BEFORE YOU REPLY.

the only "amusing" thing here is how people continually twist my words when i have explicitly stated EXACTLY what i mean on multiple occasions. if you're not even going to properly participate in a discussion, dont try and start one.

[iamgoofball]

Additionally when are ricegumslig's notes getting dumped?

[Steelpoint]

All I see is a non issue that won't be actionable. This thread should be in the shed.

Only thing of worth in this thread is the reinforcement of removing cat people, but that's a given.

[Qbopper]

Only thing of worth in this thread is the reinforcement of removing cat people, but that's a given.

this thread is dumpster tier BECAUSE of the catpeople discussion

[Qbopper]

i mean shit if oranges gets nuked why would goofball not be gitbanned

[Steelpoint]

Good enough reason to remove them from the game utterly.

The whole concept was a joke that was joked into existence, and as well all know from history is that unless you're feature involves me adding guns, lavaland roles or armour value changes that it becomes practically near impossible to remove a feature.

Lizardpeople have unique sprites and functions and are a separate species. Plasmapeople are a utterly unique species with little in common with Humans. God damn fly people shit and eat their own shit and look like literally shit with wings.

Catpeople are just Humans with fucking ears and tails, that's it, no unique species sprites or anything. They even show up as 'Human' on medical scanners.

At least Tarjans or whatever actually go the full monty, have a fully fleshed out lore and expectation for how they speak (Not NYAA! Purrs on like a retard) and look sufficiently non-human.

Catpeople are lazy and should never have gone beyond a clown tier item in some wardrobe.

[captain sawrge]

Good enough reason to remove them from the game utterly.

The whole concept was a joke that was joked into existence, and as well all know from history is that unless you're feature involves me adding guns, lavaland roles or armour value changes that it becomes practically near impossible to remove a feature.

Lizardpeople have unique sprites and functions and are a separate species. Plasmapeople are a utterly unique species with little in common with Humans. God damn fly people shit and eat their own shit and look like literally shit with wings.

Catpeople are just Humans with fucking ears and tails, that's it, no unique species sprites or anything. They even show up as 'Human' on medical scanners.

At least Tarjans or whatever actually go the full monty, have a fully fleshed out lore and expectation for how they speak (Not NYAA! Purrs on like a retard) and look sufficiently non-human.

Catpeople are lazy and should never have gone beyond a clown tier item in some wardrobe.

your*

[Arianya]

Steelpoint is the reason we can't have nice things like non-shed threads on cats

[cedarbridge]

Good enough reason to remove them from the game utterly.

>obnoxious people act obnoxiously about thing they don't like
>obnoxious people acting obnoxiously about thing get thing removed
>thing is removed
>obnoxious people remain
>obnoxious people move on to new thing to act obnoxious about until that is also removed
>obnoxious people remain to shit on more things

Gee whiz

[Steelpoint]

If the only people who played Catpeople were upstanding individuals it would not change my opinion. I just dislike the concept of Catpeople through and through. Not for the people playing it but for the concept itself.

Look, all in all its just my personal opinion. On the topic of the thread I just feel that the behaviour of Oranges can be improved in some regards, but that I feel that his status as a maintainer is well outside the purview of the playerbase and administration, and as such this discussion is academic than practical.

[cedarbridge]

purrview

I see you.

[Deitus]

Good enough reason to remove them from the game utterly.

>new/joke feature added
>obnoxious people act obnoxiously with it
>people complain about obnoxious people
>thing is removed
>obnoxious people remain
>obnoxious people move on to new thing to act obnoxious about until that is also removed
>obnoxious people remain to shit on more things

Gee whiz

ftfy friendo

[Qbopper]

yeah i mean really when's the last time a lizard or catperson was seriously an issue in game

[Lazengann]

I don't like cats because I'm worried someone will look on my screen and ask about them

[Bawhoppennn]

Does anybody else but me flip flop between loving and hating oranges, or am I just crazy?

[kevinz000]

the only joke here is steel point trying this hard

[Screemonster]

I don't like cats because I'm worried someone will look on my screen and ask about them

if you're that worried about your mom seeing your monitor just put it so it faces away from the door

[Remie Richards]

That's a rude thing to do to your mother.

[cedarbridge]

I don't like cats because I'm worried someone will look on my screen and ask about them

I highly doubt that cat ear sprites are the most objectionable thing on your computer screen at any given time.

[BeeSting12]

if a catperson/lizard is being an ass they'd probably do the same thing as a human

[1g88a]

Secborgs were terrible but I almost miss them when the alternative is "every borg abandons its post to hunt with saws and welding tools in maint when they hear a nonhuman might be an antag".

[Cobby]

This is a metaphorical discussion about race and you all are all bigots (^:

[Super Aggro Crag]

Wig benis

[Qbopper]

Does anybody else but me flip flop between loving and hating oranges, or am I just crazy?

i like him when he makes fun of other people but then he makes fun of me and it makes me sad

[cedarbridge]

This thread sucks.

[Anonmare]

oranges is my senpai but he is also my rival

[Slignerd]

So, now oranges has directly committed out Dullahans, without even making a PR.

[Lazengann]

Delete oranges

[captain sawrge]

So, now oranges has directly committed out Dullahans, without even making a PR.

false alarm

[Remie Richards]

That's a branch you noodle.

[Slignerd]

Didn't notice that at first, I guess.