Neither is the act of sex. The act is not necessarily the bad thing.
Dead flesh is an object and I did not end its life.
I think I'm being baited. You paid the guys who killed the animal. They won't breed more animals without demand. You are demanding dead animals. Paying for murder isn't better than murder.
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
Anonmare wrote:Make it cheaper to get artificial meat and make it identical in taste and texture to real meat and this'll be more than pie in the sky stuff
I said it in discord and I'll say it again to bait all the people who don't understand analogies :^)
>"Make it cheaper to get sexbots and make it identical in feel and texture to real girls and I'll stop raping people"
False equivalence
>I won't stop my unethical behaviour until it requires literally no effort or change on my part
Is that a false equivalence?
Eating is not an unethical act. Dead flesh is an object and I did not end its life. Whether I choose to consume it or not will not change the fact that the animal it came from is dead. Rape meanwhile is against a very living thing and something that I am doing against said living thing.
Very much so.
I guess you could substitute rape with child porn or anything else that is still unethical/illegal but not a form of direct violence in itself
You (cough), you haven't won here. You and your mutie-bastard friends are gonna join me in a big ol' mushroom cloud sendoff. I just triggered the self-destruct. (Heh, heh; cough, cough,...) The work will go on. You didn't do nothing here, 'cept seal your own death warrants. Duty, (cough) honor... courage... Semper Fiiiii........
Neither is the act of sex. The act is not necessarily the bad thing.
Dead flesh is an object and I did not end its life.
I think I'm being baited. You paid the guys who killed the animal. They won't breed more animals without demand. You are demanding dead animals. Paying for murder isn't better than murder.
Going against the consent of a still living thing is unethical.
I don't particularly care about what the farmers do or don't do but all the responsibility is on them as far as I'm concerned, they did the killing after all.
Grazyn wrote:
Anonmare wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Anonmare wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Anonmare wrote:Make it cheaper to get artificial meat and make it identical in taste and texture to real meat and this'll be more than pie in the sky stuff
I said it in discord and I'll say it again to bait all the people who don't understand analogies :^)
>"Make it cheaper to get sexbots and make it identical in feel and texture to real girls and I'll stop raping people"
False equivalence
>I won't stop my unethical behaviour until it requires literally no effort or change on my part
Is that a false equivalence?
Eating is not an unethical act. Dead flesh is an object and I did not end its life. Whether I choose to consume it or not will not change the fact that the animal it came from is dead. Rape meanwhile is against a very living thing and something that I am doing against said living thing.
Very much so.
I guess you could substitute rape with child porn or anything else that is still unethical/illegal but not a form of direct violence in itself
Last I checked, eating isn't illegal or a form of violence.
Lazengann wrote:Beating your wife used to be legal but it didn't mean it was ethical sir
I don't see what that has to do with anything. Society changes its mind about what is and isn't acceptable all the time, whether it will change its mind regarding meat consumption or not has yet to be seen. My argument is that it won't change unless it becomes uneconomical and that would only happen is if it got outcompeted by an artificial source.
Stickymayhem wrote:I'm gonna drop this video for anyone who's interested it's not like the end all and be all or whatever but it's not too long and entertaining.
Use the youtube ID thing Sticky, it's easier on phone posters.
who was it that made that "things i ate" thread that was a good thread
much better than this thread
oranges wrote:pork, the nondescript, commoner king, literally so stealth you could just your normal name in OOC and nobody would know, long may he reign as the secret commander
Deitus wrote:If your signature is scrollable it's too long and fucking obnoxious and you should feel bad
Stickymayhem wrote:I'm gonna drop this video for anyone who's interested it's not like the end all and be all or whatever but it's not too long and entertaining.
that was a good video it really makes ur nogging jog.
i also tried to watch earthling and it just made me real uncomfortable when i saw pigs eat other pigs abscess like sweet mary jesus that was vile.
im going out whilst im ahead and just state that i am a hypocrite and my love of meat is the reason
Cosmic that's easy as fuck, you hit the farmer with the pillow train because spraying blood everywhere is an offense and then you go beat the rapist to death with your powerful quinoa fists
You (cough), you haven't won here. You and your mutie-bastard friends are gonna join me in a big ol' mushroom cloud sendoff. I just triggered the self-destruct. (Heh, heh; cough, cough,...) The work will go on. You didn't do nothing here, 'cept seal your own death warrants. Duty, (cough) honor... courage... Semper Fiiiii........
I guess I'll kill the rapist because the suffering of a woman raped and the aftermath is probably worse than the cows death
It's about reduction of suffering. It's not about these crazy strawman arguments you've concocted where I want to nuke the world.
We are already culling the animals by the billions, but we keep breeding them. I want us to stop breeding them.
The focus is not killing the existing ones, but saving what we can and preventing future harm by stopping the breeding.
My ideology is to reduce our harm and exploitation of animals.
I'm saying "Hey lets stop deliberately breeding things just to kill them" and you're turning it into some weird ass super villain shit.
This is why you are paraylzed by how depressing everything is. You can't fix the world, you can change your impact. It's not a global scale, it's you, and a supermarket, and the supply and demand economics of animal products in your country. Don't freak out, it doesn't have to be so much bigger than that.
And start with the big thing, then narrow in, like my daycare analogy.
Also the video is clever and if you actually watch it you'll understand the rape analogy better. Only an idiot equates the comparisons. Rape is a stand-in for "Behaviour we both agree is unethical".
Inserting "Behaviour we both agree is unethical" into a justification you used for eating animals means one of two things: 1. "Behaviour we both agree is unethical" is justified or 2. The justification is faulty
Welcome to an easy way to show people's arguments are faulty without extended logical battles. If it defends rape, it can defend anything and probably isn't reasonable.
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
captain sawrge wrote:this thread was so stupid i bought a pack of tofu and made stir fry with it and it's pretty good. cheers op.
Spoiler:
Tofu scramble is legit too
Red Onion, Peppers, then crumbled tofu with paprika, salt, turmeric, whatever spices you like for flavoring chicken, then add spinach at the end. Super delish.
sorry for horrible quality
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
captain sawrge wrote:Oh i just realize that isnt eggs because eggs are a animal product do you fry it or what?
yeah I use one medium frying pan
fry veggies, crumble extra firm tofu with a fork, then put it in half the pan with the spices you want (mix with a bit of water for better mixing to pour over it), fry them half and half in the pan then mix and add spinach or whatever quick cook greens you want with it
I haven't done a teriyaki marinade I'll try that
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
Armhulen wrote:Keep the tofu in chunks or else it's just a shitty addition to your food. Texture matters so much
You want smaller chunks for more surface area, you get a more even level of cooking that way and a more enjoyable experience so long as you don't burn it into oblivion
This is now a thread for vegan recipes the flame war is over sorry a block of tofu is like half the price of beef think of the money I can spend on anime figures and video games that i wouldnt be spending on meat
>1kg of gluten flour = $5
>No fat
>70% protein
>Flavour with whatever your favorite spices/flavourings are
>turns into like 2kg of wheat meat with water and broth
>Keeps for a week in the fridge, month in the freezer
>a million recipes to try
It'll take a try or two to get it right so start with smaller batches but once you got it my lord it's the cheapest meat replacement ever. I cut it with chickpea flour and use a vegan chicken flavouring broth as the liquid
oh this isn't 3 year old friendly but you know what is
black bean burritos
>can/carton of the cheapest fucking black beans my god they are worthless
>empty into sieve
>rinse
>stir fry all the veggies you want
>throw in black beans for the last 2-4 minutes
>Delicious burrito/taco filling
>Protein comporable to red beef and more iron with no cholesterol for fewer calories
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Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
oranges wrote:pork, the nondescript, commoner king, literally so stealth you could just your normal name in OOC and nobody would know, long may he reign as the secret commander
Deitus wrote:If your signature is scrollable it's too long and fucking obnoxious and you should feel bad
