[Harricross] Ban Appeal Schm0ple (Banned as Dunkelbunt)

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[Harricross] Ban Appeal Schm0ple (Banned as Dunkelbunt)

Post by Schm0ple » #658350

BYOND account: Schm0ple (back when I was banned I had the username Dunkelbunt)
Character name: - there was no name displayed in the ban
Ban type: Server ban
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: "As a non-antagonist psychologist, relesed a small amount of N2O onto the shuttle after linking it to the BYOS pipenet and then started to beat an AI shell to death for no reason.You already have a record of releasing random gas into the air, a terrible note history and on top of that, lied in ahelps.
Time ban was placed: 2022-06-05 11:19:12
Server you were playing on when banned:I cant remember but I mainly play Terry due to timezones
Round ID in which ban was placed: 184384
Your side of the story: Its been quite some time since then and I completely forgot what in gods name I was doing back then. I think I was just trying out the different departments and I think I tried to learn atmos.
Why you think you should be unbanned: It's been 6 months by now and I've been pretty busy with my career so far and I remembered the game by watching a YouTube video yesterday. It was my bad past that confronted me when I tried joining. I do not know for certain what I did wrong in some of the bans, but I generally tried to stick to a role. Isn't it better to just let go and move on?
References of good conduct: I think I got a couple notes of good conduct too. as I am writing this, I remember that I once RP'ed as the child of the Captain and got shrunk with the help of the admins. It was a really fun and chill round.
Anything else we should know: I read the Rules and I noticed that Rule 1 Precedents (6.) says that "You may defend your workplace from trespassers who damage or steal property within that space with significantly greater force than elsewhere. If someone is severely disruptive and returns after ejected, this opens them up to "fun" of the creative workplace death variety. - This bothers me since I got alot of bans due to admins AVOIDING THIS. Another Question: whats meant with " taking measures to survive the shift" in Rule 12 Precedents(1.) ?
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Re: Ban Appeal Schm0ple

Post by Timberpoes » #658354

Banning admin is Harricross. I have edited this into your ban appeal title.

The server you were playing on when you were banned is Manuel.

The ban was originally placed as a 3 day ban during round #184378, and then you were unbanned very shortly after and a new permanent ban was placed during round #184384.

The banning admin forgot to add that you were banned for the events of a different shift in their new ban, so to refresh your memory you can have a look at https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/184378
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Re: [Harricross] Ban Appeal Schm0ple (Banned as Dunkelbunt)

Post by Schm0ple » #658400

first of, thanks for helping me out with the errors.
But what can I do with the round website?
I can only see who played which role and what each persons name was.
I looked at the attack txt and noticed that I got killed by a monkey two times in a row... But it appears that my killing of the AI shell had a meaning since it locked us out of the shuttle. (its in the mecha txt file. I think the ai got into a mecha and then blocked the entrance of the shuttle and refused to move or couldnt move. I destroyed it to get to the shuttle.
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Re: [Harricross] Ban Appeal Schm0ple (Banned as Dunkelbunt)

Post by Harricross » #658404

Hi, thanks for making an appeal.

To start things off, I cannot in good conscience unban you. In the roughly 312 hours you have spent on TGstation, you've accumulated 26 notes/bans with a lot of them involving opening dangerous/annoying gas canisters containing N2O or plasma and random acts of grief. You also have a concerning amount of notes that involve saying messed up things to other players such as, "im german soI have it in my genes" "holocaust gonna be a childrens bedstory after im done" and "DOG SEX" "ANOTHER DOG" "LETS FUCK IT."

Originally, the ban was supposed be three days, but after re-evaluating your history as well as realizing that you had lied in the ahelp, it was increased to a permanent ban.
I think I got a couple notes of good conduct too. as I am writing this, I remember that I once RP'ed as the child of the Captain and got shrunk with the help of the admins. It was a really fun and chill round.
You have zero notes of good conduct on TGstation. If you have vouches from other servers, update your post with the name of them.
Rule 1 Precedents (6.) says that "You may defend your workplace from trespassers who damage or steal property within that space with significantly greater force than elsewhere. If someone is severely disruptive and returns after ejected, this opens them up to "fun" of the creative workplace death variety. - This bothers me since I got alot of bans due to admins AVOIDING THIS. Another Question: whats meant with " taking measures to survive the shift" in Rule 12 Precedents(1.)
I'm not quite sure what you're referencing to. If this is in regards to the ban I placed, your workplace is not the emergency shuttle and you weren't taking measures to survive the shift by releasing N2O into the shuttle after beating an AI shell to death.

To explain the ruling, if someone with obvious malicious intent breaks into your department to break/steal stuff, you are welcome to beat them up, toss them out and alert medical once you are done. At this point, you should not withholding the body or attempting to round remove them. If they repeatedly come back and incite violence from you and your department, hence the, "...severely disruptive and returns after ejected," portion of the ruling, you can murder them at that point. However, in the roleplay servers, we expect players to consult command and security when possible instead of forming lynch mobs outside of immediate danger. i.e. traitor with a revolver two tapping someone or an assistant toolboxing another assistant. Additionally, if it's clear that they are an oblivious player that had wandered in instead of hacking or demanding the AI let them in, you cannot use this as an excuse to beat them up.
the ai got into a mecha and then blocked the entrance of the shuttle and refused to move or couldnt move. I destroyed it to get to the shuttle.

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10:49:46	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Godfrey Wolf tries to move into THE CAPTAIN.	(109, 150, 4)	EVA Storage
10:49:48	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Godfrey Wolf moved in as pilot.	(109, 150, 4)	EVA Storage
10:50:02	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Toggled lights off.	(126, 141, 4)	Central Primary Hallway
10:51:12	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Godfrey Wolf moved out.	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:11	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Phil McKrackin tries to move into THE CAPTAIN.	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:11	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Permission denied (DNA LOCK).	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:12	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:12	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:17	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:17	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:18	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:18	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:19	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:19	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:20	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:20	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:21	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:21	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:22	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:22	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:23	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:23	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:24	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:24	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:25	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:25	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:26	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:26	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:27	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:27	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:28	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:28	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:29	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:29	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:30	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:30	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:31	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:31	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:32	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:32	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:33	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:33	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:34	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:34	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:35	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:35	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:36	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:36	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:37	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:37	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:38	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:38	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:39	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:39	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:39	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Took 7 points of damage. Damage type: brute	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
10:54:39	MECHA	[THE CAPTAIN] Attacked by the oxygen tank. Attacker - Phil McKrackin, Damage -	(210, 124, 4)	Emergency Shuttle
There's no indication whatsoever of the AI taking over the Phazon, only the Captain. Below however, is when you started attacking an AI shell in the middle of healing someone.

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10:57:04	ATTACK	ZKXS/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/epinephrine (5u, 1 purity)) from the cyborg hypospray to XCVJoRDANXCV/(Elliot Millst) (NEWHP: -5.8)	(143, 154, 4)	Recreational Holodeck
10:57:04	ATTACK	ZKXS/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) has injected XCVJoRDANXCV/(Elliot Millst) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Epinephrine) (NEWHP: -5.8)	(143, 154, 4)	Recreational Holodeck
10:57:55	ATTACK	ZKXS/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/c2/convermol (2u, 0.75 purity)) from the cyborg hypospray to XCVJoRDANXCV/(Elliot Millst) (NEWHP: 5.3)	(197, 139, 4)	Departure Lounge
10:57:55	ATTACK	ZKXS/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) has injected XCVJoRDANXCV/(Elliot Millst) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Convermol) (NEWHP: 5.3)	(197, 139, 4)	Departure Lounge
10:58:03	ATTACK	ZKXS/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) is no longer being ridden by Elliot Millst	(197, 139, 4)	Departure Lounge
10:58:03	ATTACK	XCVJoRDANXCV/(Elliot Millst) is no longer riding Oracle Medical Shell-240	(197, 139, 4)	Departure Lounge
11:00:07	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 74.8197)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:08	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 64.8197)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:09	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 54.8197)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:10	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 44.8197)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:11	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 34.8197)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:12	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 24.8197)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:13	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 14.8197)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:14	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 4.81966)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:15	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -5.18034)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
11:00:16	ATTACK	Dunkelbunt/(Phil McKrackin) has attacked *no key*/(Oracle Medical Shell-240) with oxygen tank (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -15.1803)	(133, 98, 6)	Emergency Shuttle
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Re: [Harricross] Ban Appeal Schm0ple (Banned as Dunkelbunt)

Post by Schm0ple » #658451

Ok, I get that I may seem like a mf retard for saying those things, but most of them were harmless in regards to the things other players have said and do. (Except the dog one... I got a lil carried away with that one)

And no, I am not referring to the escape shuttle as my Workspace. I got a ban once because I beat the clown after breaking in multiple times (I was the cook)

Also, whats the "lied in ahelp" thing all about?

Please, it has been a while since I last played or even thought about this game so stick with me here
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Re: [Harricross] Ban Appeal Schm0ple (Banned as Dunkelbunt)

Post by Harricross » #658497

The lied in ahelps portion was likely in reference to the release of gas on the shuttle.

Again, 312 hours and 26 notes/bans with six instances of opening N2O/plasma canisters as a non-antagonist is a poor look for you. In your most recent act of opening gas canisters (before the ban I placed), you stated your reasoning was because you were "bored" after sabotaging the brig air alarm and flooding security with N2O as a non-antagonist.

I'll be willing to unban you if you get references of good conduct from servers like Yogstation, Beestation or Fulpstation, but for now I'll still be denying this appeal.
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