[Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player complaint

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[Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player complaint

Postby farnebrink » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:19 pm #30496

Byond account and character name: farnebrink - Fiona Scott
Banning admin: Saegrimr
Ban reason and length: Banned for apparently lying
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 01:00ish GMT +1
Your side of the story: So the round starts off and the first thing I see is a bartender unloading his shotgun on some guy in the medbay, people gang up on said bartender and beat him all battered until we stop and let him get treated before we part our ways. Minutes afterwards I go to the bar and taunt him a little bit, upon which he climbs over the counter, smashes a bottle on my head and slashes me to critical. I ahelp when he leaves me to die. Then a chaplain comes in and drags me to the chapel and heals me. Then the following happens:

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PM to-Admins: kyle smith just smashed a bottle on my head and then began to  slash it into my face
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Saegrimr: Did you do anything to provoke this?
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: nothing physical
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Saegrimr: Are you absolutely sure about that.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: Positive
You start washing your hands.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Saegrimr: Would you like to change your story before or after I pastebin these attack logs?
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: nope
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Saegrimr: http://pastebin.com/Zp73DBNk
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Saegrimr: So, are you ABSOLUTELY SURE you didn't do anything to provoke him killing you?
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: considering I fixed him up after, nope //IMPLIES THAT I ADMIT THAT THERE HAD BEEN A CONFLICT EARLIER BETWEEN ME AND THE BARTENDER//
You have been banned by saegrimr.
Reason: Attacking the bartender seemingly FNR, ahelps when bartender retaliates and lies about not having attacked him at all. I gave you 3 chances to tell me the truth and even pasted you the logs . Please appeal when you've gained some sense.


Why you think you should be unbanned:
Because the reason of the ban is just completely made-up. Bad log-checking on Saegrimr's part.



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Re: [Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player compl

Postby Saegrimr » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:35 pm #30500

First: the PMs.
Spoiler:
[15:56:37]ADMIN: HELP: Farnebrink: kyle smith just smashed a bottle on my head and then began to slash it into my face - heard by 4 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[15:56:39]ADMIN: Saegrimr jumped to Farnebrink
[15:57:42]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: Did you do anything to provoke this?
[15:57:52]ADMIN: PM: Farnebrink->Saegrimr: nothing physical
[15:58:08]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: Are you absolutely sure about that.
[15:58:50]ADMIN: PM: Farnebrink->Saegrimr: Positive
[15:59:03]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: Would you like to change your story before or after I pastebin these attack logs?
[15:59:22]ADMIN: PM: Farnebrink->Saegrimr: nope
[16:02:24]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: http://pastebin.com/Zp73DBNk
[16:03:27]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: So, are you ABSOLUTELY SURE you didn't do anything to provoke him killing you?
[16:03:43]ADMIN: PM: Farnebrink->Saegrimr: considering I fixed him up after, nope
[16:05:05]ADMIN: saegrimr has banned farnebrink.

Second: The logs.
Spoiler:
[15:44:31]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:33]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:34]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:35]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:35]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:36]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:53]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:57]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:58]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:44:58]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:02]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:04]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked Kyle Smith() with wrench(INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:45:05]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked Kyle Smith() with wrench(INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:45:06]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() disarmed Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:45:06]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:07]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:27]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:29]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:31]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:32]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:45:33]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:45:38]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:45:39]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:45:40]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:45:40]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:45:41]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:45:47]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) shaked Kyle Smith()
[15:45:48]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) shaked Kyle Smith()
[15:45:49]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:53]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:58]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:45:59]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:46:00]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:46:00]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() punched Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:46:01]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:46:01]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() punched Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:46:02]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) disarmed Kyle Smith()
[15:46:03]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:46:04]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:46:06]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:46:08]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:46:09]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched Kyle Smith()
[15:46:56]ATTACK: A. A. Ron() disarmed Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:46:57]ATTACK: A. A. Ron() disarmed Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:46:58]ATTACK: A. A. Ron() disarmed Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:46:59]ATTACK: A. A. Ron() disarmed Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:47:00]ATTACK: A. A. Ron() disarmed Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:47:01]ATTACK: A. A. Ron() disarmed Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:47:02]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched A. A. Ron()
[15:47:02]ATTACK: A. A. Ron() disarmed Fiona Scott(farnebrink)
[15:47:02]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched A. A. Ron()
[15:47:03]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) punched A. A. Ron()
[15:47:04]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:05]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:06]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:07]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:08]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:09]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:09]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:11]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:12]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:12]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with fire extinguisher(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:13]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with fire extinguisher(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:14]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) attacked A. A. Ron() with pocket crowbar(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:14]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with fire extinguisher(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:18]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with fire extinguisher(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:47:18]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with fire extinguisher(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:50:58]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) fed Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with bicaridine(10 units);
[15:50:58]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) fed Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with bicaridine(10 units);
[15:51:00]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) fed Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with bicaridine(10 units);
[15:51:04]ATTACK: Fiona Scott(farnebrink) fed Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with bicaridine(10 units);
[15:55:17]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with bottle
[15:55:17]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:55:18]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:55:19]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:55:20]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:55:21]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:55:22]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:55:23]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:55:24]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:55:25]ATTACK: Kyle Smith() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE)
[15:56:27]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() fed Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with holywater(100 units);
[15:56:31]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() fed Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with holywater(80 units);
[15:56:42]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:02]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:04]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:05]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:07]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:13]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:15]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:17]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:18]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm
[15:57:19]ATTACK: Isaiah Brinigh() attacked Fiona Scott(farnebrink) with The Holy Book of Church of Ebonarm


So you're absolutely sure you did nothing physical to provoke this?
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Re: [Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player compl

Postby elyina » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:47 pm #30503

[15:57:42]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: Did you do anything to provoke this?
[15:57:52]ADMIN: PM: Farnebrink->Saegrimr: nothing physical
[15:58:08]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: Are you absolutely sure about that.
[15:58:50]ADMIN: PM: Farnebrink->Saegrimr: Positive


This sounds like lying to me, you only changed your tone after he showed you the logs himself.
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Re: [Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player compl

Postby farnebrink » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:10 am #30509

elyina wrote:
[15:57:42]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: Did you do anything to provoke this?
[15:57:52]ADMIN: PM: Farnebrink->Saegrimr: nothing physical
[15:58:08]ADMIN: PM: Saegrimr->Farnebrink: Are you absolutely sure about that.
[15:58:50]ADMIN: PM: Farnebrink->Saegrimr: Positive


This sounds like lying to me, you only changed your tone after he showed you the logs himself.


After the breakup at the medical Bay it was a new chapter to the story. Well, obviously not for the bartender because he got apparently angry at what I said. This is where the "nothing physical" part comes to play. Once again just reading the logs without taking things in context, as well as time difference. There was no lies coming from me, ever.

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Re: [Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player compl

Postby Saegrimr » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:45 am #30511

So after beating the shit out of the bartender previously, you come back later to talk shit to him at his counter.

Apparently this wasn't a new chapter for you either.
Spoiler:
[15:52:10]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : hey bitch
[15:52:14]SAY: Kyle Smith/ : what?
[15:52:14]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : why did you hit me
[15:52:25]SAY: Kyle Smith/ : because you tried to stop me from killing a syndicate
[15:52:39]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : youre the syndi
[15:53:04]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : I bet that guy is your target
[15:53:10]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : too much of a pussy to go after him yourself
[15:54:23]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : gonna run and cry to your mommy
[15:54:27]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : or what
[15:54:55]SAY: Kyle Smith/ : get out of my bar
[15:54:56]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : tastes like shit
[15:55:07]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : nah
[15:55:08]SAY: Kyle Smith/ : get out of my bar right fucking now
[15:55:12]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : why
[15:55:19]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : i'm contributing to the atmosphere
[15:55:20]SAY: Fiona Scott/ : help
[15:55:25]GAME: /(Fiona Scott) fired Polyacid from a space cleaner.
[15:55:25]EMOTE: Kyle Smith/ : <B>Kyle Smith</B> screams!
[15:55:37]SAY: Kyle Smith/ : <i>doctor to bar</i>
[15:55:41]SAY: Kyle Smith/ : <i>doctor to bar</i>
[15:55:42]SAY: Kyle Smith/ : chaplin
[15:55:51]EMOTE: Fiona Scott/ : <B>Fiona Scott</B> gasps!
[15:55:57]EMOTE: Fiona Scott/ : <B>Fiona Scott</B> gasps!
[15:56:30]EMOTE: Fiona Scott/ : <B>Fiona Scott</B> gasps!
[15:56:37]ADMIN: HELP: /(Fiona Scott): kyle smith just smashed a bottle on my head and then began to slash it into my face - heard by 4 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
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Re: [Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player compl

Postby CreationPro » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:58 am #30514

How about we put this one into trash permanently? We have all it needs: lying, harassing players for no good reason, not understanding what is wrong.
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Re: [Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player compl

Postby Saegrimr » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:53 am #30526

Yeah I think this is pretty much over.
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Re: [Saegrimr] Farnebrink - banned for filing a player compl

Postby TheBibleMelts » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:15 am #30531

Another case of a poor appeal leading to a lengthier ban. We should sticky one of these just as an example of "don't do this shit."

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