[Dreathtil]Qfmysteryman23-server ban misunderstanding

[qfmysteryman23]

BYOND account: Qfmysteryman23
Character name: Creates-Invisible-Walls
Ban type: server
Ban length: 3 days
Ban reason: cant copy and paste so to summarize I was in a gygax as a non antag and from the admins perspective it looked like I was trying to attack a sec officer for no reason. This took place on round 146498.

Appeal: The roboticist made a gygax for me and so I was just patroling the station. It was near the end of the round and I saw that security had arrested the captain and as a loyalist of the captain, I tried to use my gygax to go and save him.

[Dreathtil]

Thanks for appealing

But there really was no reason for you to assault a security officer in Mech on M A N U E L given this scenario. Security had the situation handled, and on top of the bad escalation you should of stayed in your lane during the ordeal

You had "alot" of wonderful interaction the whole round. I'm not exactly inclined to be leinient with you in any capacity. A whole 25 minutes worth of it.

[2020-09-17 21:06:42.527] ACCESS: 21:06:42.527] ACCESS: Mob Login: Qfmysteryman23/(Qfmysteryman23) was assigned to a /mob/dead/new_player
[2020-09-17 21:07:47.401] GAME: 21:07:47.401] GAME: Qfmysteryman23/(Cleans-His-Ass) Client Qfmysteryman23/(Cleans-His-Ass) has taken ownership of mob (/mob/living/carbon/human) (start area (8,174,1))
[2020-09-17 21:07:47.416] GAME: 21:07:47.416] GAME: Qfmysteryman23/(Cleans-His-Ass) name changed from Cleans-His-Ass to Creates-Invisible-Walls (start area (8,174,1))
[2020-09-17 21:15:35.075] EMOTE: 21:15:35.075] EMOTE: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) salutes (Bridge (151,141,2))
[2020-09-17 21:15:40.189] EMOTE: 21:15:40.189] EMOTE: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) salutes (Bridge (151,141,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.803] EMOTE: 21:31:21.803] EMOTE: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless... (Security Checkpoint (153,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:33.585] SAY: 21:31:33.585] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) (DEAD) "haha" (Security Checkpoint (154,45,2))
[2020-09-17 21:32:56.355] ACCESS: 21:32:56.355] ACCESS: Logout: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls)

As for the Attack Logs Leading up to the Incident

[2020-09-17 21:08:21.016] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has shaken Sergeirocks100/(Roams-The-Forest) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (152,154,2))
[2020-09-17 21:08:22.137] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has shaken Sergeirocks100/(Roams-The-Forest) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (152,154,2))
[2020-09-17 21:09:42.086] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has kicks Sarcomata/(John Dee) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (158,101,2))
[2020-09-17 21:09:42.086] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has shoved Sarcomata/(John Dee) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (158,101,2))
[2020-09-17 21:09:43.898] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has shoved Sarcomata/(John Dee) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (161,99,2))
[2020-09-17 21:09:45.242] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has shoved Sarcomata/(John Dee) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (160,99,2))
[2020-09-17 21:09:46.385] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has shoved Sarcomata/(John Dee) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (159,99,2))
[2020-09-17 21:09:48.025] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has shoved Sarcomata/(John Dee) (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (157,100,2))
[2020-09-17 21:17:17.374] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has permanently shocked [Storage Closet] (Prison Wing (203,155,2))
[2020-09-17 21:17:34.708] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has permanently shocked [Prison Wing] (Prison Wing (201,156,2))
[2020-09-17 21:18:35.633] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has permanently shocked [Law Office] (Law Office (188,127,2))
[2020-09-17 21:24:59.258] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Sergeirocks100/(Roams-The-Forest) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 73.5) (Departure Lounge (152,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:10.517] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Drunkhuskey/(Rose Valentine) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 98.5) (Departure Lounge (149,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:11.943] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Drunkhuskey/(Rose Valentine) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 98.5) (Departure Lounge (148,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:13.834] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Drunkhuskey/(Rose Valentine) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 98.5) (Departure Lounge (147,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:15.289] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Drunkhuskey/(Rose Valentine) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 98.5) (Departure Lounge (146,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:17.004] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Drunkhuskey/(Rose Valentine) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 98.5) (Departure Lounge (145,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:18.606] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Drunkhuskey/(Rose Valentine) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 98.5) (Departure Lounge (144,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:20.243] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Drunkhuskey/(Rose Valentine) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 98.5) (Departure Lounge (143,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:23.487] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Lodgedharp/(Sir Honkington) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 53.7) (Departure Lounge (146,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:32.269] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Sergeirocks100/(Roams-The-Forest) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 73.5) (Departure Lounge (151,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:25:35.426] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed *no key*/(�Firebot) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 10) (Departure Lounge (155,57,2))
[2020-09-17 21:27:28.630] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has pushed Lodgedharp/(Sir Honkington) with THE MIME (NEWHP: 53.7) (Departure Lounge (152,58,2))
[2020-09-17 21:30:50.253] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has permanently shocked [Holding Area] (Security Checkpoint (149,44,2))

And the incident Itself

[2020-09-17 21:31:12.210] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has attacked Legality/(Diamond Dolce) with THE MIME (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 88) (Security Checkpoint (154,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:13.824] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has attacked Legality/(Diamond Dolce) with THE MIME (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 70) (Security Checkpoint (152,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:14.213] ATTACK: Legality/(Diamond Dolce) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (151,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:14.644] ATTACK: oh910/(KUDZ-U) has fired at [�space] with the low velocity pie cannon (Space (212,56,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:14.831] ATTACK: Legality/(Diamond Dolce) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (151,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:15.090] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has attacked Legality/(Diamond Dolce) with THE MIME (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 56) (Security Checkpoint (152,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:15.912] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced window] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (154,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:15.970] ATTACK: Legality/(Diamond Dolce) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (151,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:15.989] ATTACK: Legality/(Diamond Dolce) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (151,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:15.991] ATTACK: BluBerry016/(Crystal Shafer) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (152,45,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:15.992] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (154,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:15.996] ATTACK: Legality/(Diamond Dolce) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (151,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:15.998] ATTACK: BluBerry016/(Crystal Shafer) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (152,45,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:16.000] ATTACK: Successful_Vacuum/(Joshua A. Lemire) was flashed(AOE) (Departure Lounge (152,47,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:16.001] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (154,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:16.417] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced window] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (155,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:16.425] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has attacked Legality/(Diamond Dolce) with THE MIME (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 42) (Security Checkpoint (152,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:17.123] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced window] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (155,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:17.493] ATTACK: Losenis/(Tanya Longstreet) has attacked [THE MIME] with DEJA VU (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (Security Checkpoint (153,45,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:17.628] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced window] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (155,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:17.763] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has attacked Legality/(Diamond Dolce) with THE MIME (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 28) (Security Checkpoint (152,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:18.235] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced window] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (155,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:18.617] ATTACK: Dat_Legion/(Rob Sterling) has thrown the syndicate minibomb (Departure Lounge (154,52,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:18.743] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced window] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (155,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:19.061] ATTACK: Legality/(Diamond Dolce) has suffered: Joint Dislocation | Damage: 21 (rolled 56/70.9753) (Security Checkpoint (151,43,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:19.063] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has attacked Legality/(Diamond Dolce) with THE MIME (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 7) (Security Checkpoint (151,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:19.253] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced window] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (154,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:19.737] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [floor] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (154,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:20.232] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (153,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:20.304] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has shot Legality/(Diamond Dolce) with the ion bolt (NEWHP: 7) (Security Checkpoint (153,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:20.788] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the ion bolt from Security Checkpoint (Security Checkpoint (153,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.291] ATTACK: Gofawful5/(Tracy Abbenson) has fired at [THE MIME] with the ion bolt from Departure Lounge (Departure Lounge (151,47,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.296] ATTACK: Gofawful5/(Tracy Abbenson) was flashed(AOE) (Departure Lounge (151,47,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.299] ATTACK: BluBerry016/(Crystal Shafer) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (152,45,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.301] ATTACK: Successful_Vacuum/(Joshua A. Lemire) was flashed(AOE) (Departure Lounge (153,50,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.303] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (154,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.310] ATTACK: Gofawful5/(Tracy Abbenson) was flashed(AOE) (Departure Lounge (151,47,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.312] ATTACK: BluBerry016/(Crystal Shafer) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (152,45,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.314] ATTACK: Successful_Vacuum/(Joshua A. Lemire) was flashed(AOE) (Departure Lounge (153,50,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.316] ATTACK: Harricross/(Hates-The-Lizard) was flashed(AOE) (Security Checkpoint (154,44,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.681] ATTACK: Legality/(Diamond Dolce) has attacked [chair] with the stun baton (Security Checkpoint (151,43,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.683] ATTACK: Losenis/(Tanya Longstreet) has attacked [THE MIME] with DEJA VU (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (Security Checkpoint (153,45,2))
[2020-09-17 21:31:21.807] ATTACK: Qfmysteryman23/(Creates-Invisible-Walls) has died (BRUTE: 129.7, BURN: 116.5, TOX: 0, OXY: 0, CLONE: 0) (Security Checkpoint (153,44,2))

Must of been a real exciting 25 minutes for you.
And the incident aside. There was no IC communication or logic behind you getting the Gygax during your 25 minutes on station so you either made it yourself somehow with miraculous logic or stole it. The clown that round at least had some interaction (albeit on the LRP side) to get them that mech. But going through the game logs and mech logs. I'd love for somebody to help me find the golden line of text here.

[2020-09-17 20:33:22.790] MECHA: [�Gygax] Boopa Choopa moved out. (Mech Bay (146,82,2))
[2020-09-17 21:10:04.123] MECHA: [�Gygax] Creates-Invisible-Walls moved in as pilot. (Mech Bay (146,82,2))

Nice Mech you stole from Mechbay
This appeal was a good read to train myself with.
The Ban and it's following note stands Next time you come to Manuel instead of elsewhere familiarize yourself with both https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules and https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Roleplay_Rules or you will probably eat a permaban if you get in trouble

[qfmysteryman23]

Ah yes I love the fact that you used me pushing people(which does no damage) as a justifiable reason for the ban staying? and also how am I supposed to have IC communications when Im a mime and I cant talk? I also cant do emotes while inside a gygax.

[qfmysteryman23]

Also I went in the Mech and the roboticist did not care. He just started to build a new one.

[Dreathtil]

If you want to go through the logs yourself, and find me the golden line(s) of text and interaction where the roboticist or anybody in the department not you, but anybody else at the time you got the mech said something along the lines of "hey mime want a mech".

I would be much more willing to consider your original statement

"The roboticist made a gygax for me"

to be true and I'd be willing to consider a re-appeal using the proper appeal format with everything filled out.

Just because the Roboticist wasn't paying attention or played ignorant is on them as well. But this is not about them, it's about you, and this is Manuel where proper IC interaction matters alot more then the other servers (although it does still on the other servers).