Ban Appeal (Kingtrin) Randomrussian22-Perma for Suicide

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Ban Appeal (Kingtrin) Randomrussian22-Perma for Suicide

Postby RandomRussian22 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:11 am #479386

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Character Name: Tristen Englestad
Banning Admins: Kingtrin
Type of Ban: Perma Ban
Ban Reason: Suicide as a MT to escape being arrested by MPs

My side of the story: I as an MT decided to deploy to the FOB to improve it. Later in the round a MP came down and asked me to go back to the ship (He never attemted to arrest me) after that i suicided and logged off.

I should be unbanned because i think that is not a perma worthy offense although i should have cryoed instead of suiciding so that other players can play the same role.



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Re: Ban Appeal (Kingtrin) Randomrussian22-Perma for Suicide

Postby Kingtrin » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:17 am #479436

Relevant logs attached. Here is where you resisted arrest:
Spoiler:
[2019-02-25 01:38:17.549] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "Hey" (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:19.201] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "Tech." (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:25.019] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "So as it turns out" (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:38.287] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "gug" (Entrance Hallway (218, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:41.052] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "huh" (Entrance Hallway (218, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:41.803] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "Dashing off to go into the heat of battle without permission isn't a good idea" (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:47.704] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "who do i ask" (Entrance Hallway (218, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:51.122] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "there is no CE" (Entrance Hallway (218, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:55.843] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "The CO" (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:38:57.657] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "Moron" (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:02.729] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "Besides" (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:08.122] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "You didn't even set up the engines" (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:11.485] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "i did" (Entrance Hallway (218, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:17.864] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "they probally ran out of fuel" (Entrance Hallway (218, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:19.668] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "You have to keep on them..." (Entrance Hallway (217, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:23.810] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "ok" (Entrance Hallway (218, 119, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:33.376] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "though I aprecite the work" (Entrance Hallway (220, 122, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:47.439] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "come on" (Entrance Hallway (217, 122, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:39:56.900] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "you know" (Entrance Hallway (214, 123, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:40:00.789] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "Come on" (Entrance Hallway (217, 122, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:40:23.663] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "Tristen" (Entrance Hallway (216, 122, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:40:30.291] SAY: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) "yes" (Entrance Hallway (217, 124, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:40:32.719] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "We had a ship to catch" (Entrance Hallway (216, 122, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:40:57.781] SAY: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) "I am getting rid of them." (Entrance Hallway (216, 122, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:41:14.967] GAME: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) is trying to commit suicide.
[2019-02-25 01:41:14.967] ATTACK: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) is trying to commit suicide. (Entrance Hallway (215, 124, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:41:18.923] GAME: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) committed suicide with the �PPSh-17b submachinegun at Entrance Hallway (215, 124, 2).
[2019-02-25 01:41:18.926] ATTACK: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) has seizes up and falls limp... RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) (NEWHP: -81) (Entrance Hallway (215, 124, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:41:18.926] ATTACK: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) commited suicide with the �PPSh-17b submachinegun (Entrance Hallway (215, 124, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:41:22.981] ATTACK: --snipped--/(Emily Batten) has grabbed RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) (NEWHP: -81) (Entrance Hallway (216, 123, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:41:31.800] ACCESS: Login: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad)
[2019-02-25 01:41:31.801] OOC: RandomRussian22/(Tristen Englestad) has logged in. (Entrance Hallway (221, 122, 2))
[2019-02-25 01:41:46.385] ACCESS: Logout: RandomRussian22[DC]/(Tristen Englestad)
[2019-02-25 01:41:46.386] OOC: RandomRussian22[DC]/(Tristen Englestad) Tristen Englestad has logged out. (Entrance Hallway (214, 124, 2))

This is suiciding to avoid arrest. Plain and simple. Whine about this point all you want I'm considering it factual.

As for why this is a perma I took your history into account. You have been racking up notes and for the most part we have been giving you the benefit of the doubt until today when you were pushing it with the soft griefing. You made a bunch of reinforced glass walls in the path of the tank. I decided to do some digging as you were looking more like a deliberate troll rather than a clumsy player. Sure enough there was a lot, and none of it was reassuring.

https://cm-ss13.com/forums/showthread.php?718-CaitlynTheXO-Ban-Appeal-(Permanent-Ban)
https://cm-ss13.com/forums/showthread.php?59-Moments-with-Caitlyn-Amyx&p=136

Our policy is to give people opportunities to learn from their fuckups and improve. Players who repeat offenses, outright refuse to acclimate to our rules, or show signs of being malicious can and will receive harsher punishments for otherwise minor offenses. In this case It is clear why you have such a long history, namely, to soft grief. I don't see any reason to allow you to continue playing here regardless of the offense in question. Theres no sense in waiting for a troll to make a big enough mistake so they can be permabanned.

And no you can't remove the public association with your old ckey. Claiming to be someone else when its already a matter of public record is something we can point out as we see fit. Nor are we under any obligation to assist in deleting those records. You made your bed, now you get to sleep in it.
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Re: Ban Appeal (Kingtrin) Randomrussian22-Perma for Suicide

Postby RandomRussian22 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:59 am #479450

Glass on its own does not block anything. When the tank needed to go back i destroyed the grilles which actually stop movement

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Re: Ban Appeal (Kingtrin) Randomrussian22-Perma for Suicide

Postby Kingtrin » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:39 pm #480846

I'm not going to argue minor details as I believe I explained my ban was for the attitude problem, and not any individual offense. Whether tanks are blocked by some glass isn't relevant as your intent was clear in this instance and in others. I am denying this appeal. If you want a reasonable chance at an appeal I want to see a pattern of good behavior from at least one other server. Not just following the rules, but actually trying to make the place better for everyone involved. Do that and I will strongly consider an appeal, do anything less and I don't care what you have to say.


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