[2019-03-28 02:08:38.318] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #9: David Stormwell/(David 'Snake' Stormwell): By the way, the CMO deployed and is acting as a SG - heard by 4 non-AFK staff.
[2019-03-28 02:08:53.376] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373))->David Stormwell/(David 'Snake' Stormwell): Thanks, on it
[2019-03-28 02:10:25.099] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Mind explaining why you are acting as a SG while being a CMO?
[2019-03-28 02:10:47.572] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373)): are you asking me why i took gear that was lying around with medical overstaffed?
[2019-03-28 02:12:17.182] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): I'm asking why you left a department that you lead to do a job that you are unqualified for. Doctors should not be on the frontlines period unless they have a very good reason. Command staff, which a CMO is, should DEFINITELY not be frontlining when they have a department to lead.
[2019-03-28 02:13:10.098] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373)): as i said, medical is overstaffed with no work to do due to all medics having died and/or are completely incompetent, and i'm not frontlining by holding a gun at the FOB.
[2019-03-28 02:16:06.587] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): I understand that. I am simply stating that even if there were 50 doctors the leader of the medical department should not be firing a smartgun at the xenos which are currently charging the FOB, making this frontlining.
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- I would recommend reading Rule 5, as the CMO and command staff you are held to a higher standard, which means if medical is overstaffed as you stay, one of your doctors should be groundside while you are leading the medical department on the ship. If you understand this and head back up I think this can be solved.
[2019-03-28 02:17:27.353] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): To clarify if you wanted to doctor at the FOB a regular doctor would have been a better choice
[2019-03-28 02:17:32.389] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373)): So you're saying i should continue being AFK on the Alamo for over the existing hour I have already been on with 2-3 other doctors and having no beam-ups, while the FOB is undermanned?? As for the "Other doctors", like I said, they're completely incompetent to the point where they think an "unknown substance in blood" scan means a rotting xeno infection. They don't know surgery and simply just use the auto-doc.
[2019-03-28 02:18:28.605] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373)): Which means they can't do surgeries on the ground.
[2019-03-28 02:19:30.634] ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373)): Can someone take over this ticket? IRL emergency
[2019-03-28 02:19:43.169] ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): sure
[2019-03-28 02:19:54.682] ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373)): Owe you one Trev, its the combat CMO
[2019-03-28 02:20:01.022] ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Rafar9/(Elder Sentinel (373)): Thanks
[2019-03-28 02:23:02.389] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Hello there, I'll be taking over this ticket since the admin who was had to go.
[2019-03-28 02:25:14.338] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): So you deployed as the CMO and abandoned medbay as its head?
[2019-03-28 02:26:14.476] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): .. "Abandoned"? Like i said to the other admin, all medics are down and/or completely incompetent while the other doctors are overstaffed and/or rapidly going SSD, only ever being capable of operating the autodoc, which means no beam-ups for us in the last hour or so.
[2019-03-28 02:29:34.357] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Thrn you should have cryo'd and gone xeno or joined as a different job. You deploying as CMO to be a SG has basically wasted a much needed jobslot for medbay. And it's a violation of rule 5
[2019-03-28 02:31:04.970] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): So let me get this straight.. You'd rather have someone stop playing in a round of extreme low pop rather than have the CMO fill in for the dead medics on the surface? And those sort of rules are made with the assumption that there's an actual functional chain-of-command with adequate people to fill all positions.
[2019-03-28 02:31:14.339] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Rule 5
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- .3- All Command, military police and leadership roles require active commitment to the success of the mission, closely following the chain of command.
- .4- Shipside roles, such as Medical Offiers, Cargo Technicians, Maintainance Technicians, Synth or IOs, should not deploy if their departments are not being taken care of. They must additionally get permission from their higher-ups, and remain in FOB while deployed. They should not leave their departments completely abandoned either.
[2019-03-28 02:31:39.164] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): Mate. It's "taken care of" like i said. There's 2-3 other doctors up there.
[2019-03-28 02:31:46.163] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): You we'ren't being a doctor or medic you were going rambo with a smartgun
[2019-03-28 02:32:06.424] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): RAMBO? WTF? I was standing behind the barricades taking inaccurate potshots with an abandoned smartgun
[2019-03-28 02:33:38.655] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Either way you broke the rules. Do you see this issue here?
[2019-03-28 02:34:01.786] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): No i didn't technically break any rules actually. Point out how medical on the ship isn't covered.
[2019-03-28 02:34:49.755] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Well for one did the CO give you premission to deploy?
[2019-03-28 02:35:44.695] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Two if you say medbays doctors are incompetent then you leaving them there alone is abondoning your department.
[2019-03-28 02:35:54.304] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): You mean ask permission from the nonexistent command staff we had 90 minutes into the round before a random captain joined and started being unresponsive because he's trying to manage 4 squads alone?
[2019-03-28 02:36:12.484] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): So you did not have premission
[2019-03-28 02:36:26.426] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): And now you're trying to use my reasonable explanation that i can't send the doctors down so i have to go down myself as an point of argument? What the fuck?
[2019-03-28 02:36:55.812] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): What part of literally no command and an overstaffed medical bay do you not understand?
[2019-03-28 02:36:59.625] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): I can see this is going no where
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[2019-03-28 02:37:16.036] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): With your trial admin 'logic', certainly not.
[2019-03-28 02:37:54.847] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): So you do not see the issue here? Really?
[2019-03-28 02:38:25.814] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): 1. You're saying i should have asked for permission. I say, there's literally no command to ask permission from. 2. You're saying i "abandoned" medical when there's already 1-2 doctors on it.
[2019-03-28 02:38:40.244] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): Exactly what are you trying to accuse me of here?
[2019-03-28 02:39:46.345] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): And for the record, i did inform the captain that i was going down.
[2019-03-28 02:40:39.823] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): I've already told you what rules you broke. You refuse to understand and keep arguing. I'm going to apply a CMO job ban and a note.
[2019-03-28 02:41:00.777] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): You can apply this on our forums.
[2019-03-28 02:41:05.184] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): I'm asking again of what you're trying to accuse me of.
[2019-03-28 02:41:10.627] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): appeal*
[2019-03-28 02:41:29.211] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Rule 5 .3- All Command, military police and leadership roles require active commitment to the success of the mission, closely following the chain of command. .4- Shipside roles, such as Medical Offiers, Cargo Technicians, Maintainance Technicians, Synth or IOs, should not deploy if their departments are not being taken care of. They must additionally get permission from their higher-ups, and remain in FOB while deployed. They should not leave their departments completely abandoned either.
[2019-03-28 02:42:14.881] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)):
https://i.imgur.com/cvO3CsG.png
[2019-03-28 02:42:48.695] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): The captain was the one that let me down on the planet, buddy. And like i repeated 2-3 times now, medical already has 2-3 excess doctors doing nothing because all the foremen are dead.
[2019-03-28 02:43:32.565] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): So instead of copy-pastaing the rules like a complete trial admin, how about you actually tell me what i specifically did going against said rule?
[2019-03-28 02:49:36.227] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): Hello?
[2019-03-28 02:50:27.478] ADMINPRIVATE: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)) has created a note for KennyFlinger: As the CMO, they deployed to the FOB to fight on the frontlines with a smartgun. Had this to say about it. \"So you\'re saying i should continue being AFK on the Alamo for over the existing hour I have already been on with 2-3 other doctors and having no beam-ups, while the FOB is undermanned?? As for the \"Other doctors\", like I said, they\'re completely incompetent to the point where they think an \"unknown substance in blood\" scan means a rotting xeno infection. They don\'t know surgery and simply just use the auto-doc.\". Also \"You mean ask permission from the nonexistent command staff we had 90 minutes into the round before a random captain joined and started being unresponsive because he\'s trying to manage 4 squads alone?\". Was very argumentative in PMs about the situation. Had this to say to me in the end about it, \"So instead of copy-pastaing the rules like a complete trial admin, how about you actually tell me what i specifically did going against said rule?\". Was given a CMO job ban, can be appealed on the forums.
[2019-03-28 02:52:02.790] ADMINPRIVATE: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)) has created a permanent role ban from 1 roles for KennyFlinger. Roles: Chief Medical Officer Reason: Deployed as CMO to the FOB to fight with a smartgun.
[2019-03-28 02:53:14.977] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Hello the note has been issued and job ban. You can see it under the OOC view admin remarks verb
[2019-03-28 02:54:34.773] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): I'm still waiting for you to clarify on what part of a CMO going down on the planet with permission from the captain while medical is overstaffed is against the rule buddy.
[2019-03-28 02:56:34.714] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: MrWorth/(Gerry Worth)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): Aye sir
[2019-03-28 02:56:59.058] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->MrWorth/(Gerry Worth): Did the CMO ever ask you for premisson to deploy?
[2019-03-28 02:57:25.134] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: MrWorth/(Gerry Worth)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): He may have, but I never specifically said he could
[2019-03-28 02:57:41.088] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->MrWorth/(Gerry Worth): Thanks that's all I needed to know
[2019-03-28 02:57:59.021] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->MrWorth/(Gerry Worth): Sorry to bother you about this again
[2019-03-28 02:58:25.869] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: MrWorth/(Gerry Worth)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): No problem, just watching freelancers defend a random ships SD from xenos
[2019-03-28 02:58:30.788] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): He said he never gave you premisson
[2019-03-28 02:59:04.474] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): What part of me giving you picture proof of me saying i'm going down on the planet and him being the one doing it don't you quite understand?
[2019-03-28 02:59:24.359] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): I looked at the picture and ????
[2019-03-28 02:59:33.077] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): it was not clear at all
[2019-03-28 02:59:50.389] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): and I literally asked the man himself
[2019-03-28 03:00:06.579] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)):
https://i.imgur.com/cvO3CsG.png
[2019-03-28 03:00:16.022] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)):
https://i.imgur.com/FqE71SL.png
[2019-03-28 03:00:27.714] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): down as in to the planet?
[2019-03-28 03:00:40.002] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): .......... WHERE ELSE? LMAO
[2019-03-28 03:00:53.393] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): No where inb there do I see hey CO may I deploy, and a reply of Yes you may CMO
[2019-03-28 03:01:54.713] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ancient Runner (991)): So if someone asks you if they can go through a door.. Is them not grabbing said door and holding it open for you a "Yes" in your brain?
[2019-03-28 03:02:44.637] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson)->Trevoriousdafox/(Alpha Ancient Runner (991)): I'm also not quite sure why you're expecting high RP communication when he is completely alone in command doing multiple jobs at once while the rest of the ship is also understaffed?
[2019-03-28 03:03:56.435] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Alpha Ancient Runner (991))->KennyFlinger/(Ducky 'Dad' Johnson): Look I already told you the issue. If you feel the punishment was unjust feel free to appeal on the forums.