[JOBBAN and Note Appeal] Zack24 v. Derrick Chamberlain
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:30 pm
BYOND account: Whiskey_oneone
Character name: Derrick Chamberlain
Ban type: Role Ban
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: Captain, Staff Officer, Pilot Officer, Chief Ship Engineer, Ship Technician, Requisitions Officer, Medical Doctor permanently - Held red disk as a CSE in LV624, when talked to on why they did so, said "Yes", and disconnected. When he reconnected 3 minutes later, asked again for a reason they said "Does it need explanation? Playing objectives. Also this has not been an issue in all that time when I see other people doing it constantly." Seeing others do it isn't an excuse. Has been permabanned from CMO a year ago for frontlining. Feel free to appeal this all shipside perma role-ban at the fourms if you feel this is unfair. viewforum.php?f=70
Time ban was placed: 2022-12-14 02:40:04
Round ID in which ban was placed: 18323
Your side of the story: I was playing a late night CSE roll. The map was LV-624, and I decided that I would help the marines by fortifying at Bar, at the time that was red disk. We were on LZ2, and this was not very far, and has been done plenty of times in the past with no issues. I was solo, and set up cades along the walls and doors that were most vulnerable, and did my best with the limited resources I had available on my person. As time proceeds and the round advances. The marines are stagnated with their push at research just below medbay as there was a hell maze north of their position. I was watching the map and keeping command updated on my disk status. At this some time has elapsed and I was still running the disk unimpeded in my task. When out of no where two runners and a drone (Or vice versa) began to besiege Fort Chamberlain (Bar outpost) seeing as I was alone, and very much unaware of what the xenos had said or what they had planning, I presumed that I was in for a T3 surge that would no doubt see the end of me. I started to make call outs that I need a small team and I needed backup. I was holding my own for now, a runner attempted to enter, did successfully, but I fought them off with little trouble. As I had at the time thought was an impending swarm. I held out for a little bit before deciding that it was in my best interest, and seeing the unphased marines not acknowledging my call to arms, to flee and retreat back to FOB. However not before the drones and the runners decided that they wanted a piece of Derrick before I ran. They ambushed me and I managed to fight off 2 out of the three xenos before the last one ran off and I was able to leave my fort. (I fell back into it at some point as it was the only place that had cades close by) Around this time when it was clear and still not knowing if the rest of the hive was coming or not. I fled back to the FOB, where I was then BWOINKED by Zack24 and the rest was history.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Why do I think I should be unbanned? The severity of the offense and punishment that was dealt to me was extremely overhanded. I find it confounding as to why I was punished so harshly that I was completely removed from the ability to play command, save for FCDR. I think the punishment was overzealous, and it did spark some debate at the time whether or not the rules should stay in place. I think even the admin in question that dealt the ban could agree that the punishment was overzealous. The conduct and the actions that took place in the round at the time of the incident I just find it incredibly hard to argue that I was front lining simply for holding a fortified position and xenos just happen to attack, not once had I pursued the xenos into the hive, into the cave.
References of good conduct: *Just a job ban*
Character name: Derrick Chamberlain
Ban type: Role Ban
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: Captain, Staff Officer, Pilot Officer, Chief Ship Engineer, Ship Technician, Requisitions Officer, Medical Doctor permanently - Held red disk as a CSE in LV624, when talked to on why they did so, said "Yes", and disconnected. When he reconnected 3 minutes later, asked again for a reason they said "Does it need explanation? Playing objectives. Also this has not been an issue in all that time when I see other people doing it constantly." Seeing others do it isn't an excuse. Has been permabanned from CMO a year ago for frontlining. Feel free to appeal this all shipside perma role-ban at the fourms if you feel this is unfair. viewforum.php?f=70
Time ban was placed: 2022-12-14 02:40:04
Round ID in which ban was placed: 18323
Your side of the story: I was playing a late night CSE roll. The map was LV-624, and I decided that I would help the marines by fortifying at Bar, at the time that was red disk. We were on LZ2, and this was not very far, and has been done plenty of times in the past with no issues. I was solo, and set up cades along the walls and doors that were most vulnerable, and did my best with the limited resources I had available on my person. As time proceeds and the round advances. The marines are stagnated with their push at research just below medbay as there was a hell maze north of their position. I was watching the map and keeping command updated on my disk status. At this some time has elapsed and I was still running the disk unimpeded in my task. When out of no where two runners and a drone (Or vice versa) began to besiege Fort Chamberlain (Bar outpost) seeing as I was alone, and very much unaware of what the xenos had said or what they had planning, I presumed that I was in for a T3 surge that would no doubt see the end of me. I started to make call outs that I need a small team and I needed backup. I was holding my own for now, a runner attempted to enter, did successfully, but I fought them off with little trouble. As I had at the time thought was an impending swarm. I held out for a little bit before deciding that it was in my best interest, and seeing the unphased marines not acknowledging my call to arms, to flee and retreat back to FOB. However not before the drones and the runners decided that they wanted a piece of Derrick before I ran. They ambushed me and I managed to fight off 2 out of the three xenos before the last one ran off and I was able to leave my fort. (I fell back into it at some point as it was the only place that had cades close by) Around this time when it was clear and still not knowing if the rest of the hive was coming or not. I fled back to the FOB, where I was then BWOINKED by Zack24 and the rest was history.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Why do I think I should be unbanned? The severity of the offense and punishment that was dealt to me was extremely overhanded. I find it confounding as to why I was punished so harshly that I was completely removed from the ability to play command, save for FCDR. I think the punishment was overzealous, and it did spark some debate at the time whether or not the rules should stay in place. I think even the admin in question that dealt the ban could agree that the punishment was overzealous. The conduct and the actions that took place in the round at the time of the incident I just find it incredibly hard to argue that I was front lining simply for holding a fortified position and xenos just happen to attack, not once had I pursued the xenos into the hive, into the cave.
References of good conduct: *Just a job ban*