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Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:25 am**

Bottom post of the previous page:

Okand37 wrote: I remember something along the lines of you saying you killed them because 'they were weak and only the strong survive.' That isn't really considered IC justification for killing someone, especially in a team antagonist role. I informed you of ashwalkers being a team antagonist but you pressed on this being the reason, so I said you'd need to take a break and you did a 180 and completely changed the reasoning as to why you killed them.

Ashwalkers AREN'T a team antagonist role, though. There's nothing to suggest they are, just because they spawn in the same place. They have no actual team goals besides a fluff post that doesn't specify cooperation at all when they spawn in which you can completely ignore anyways, because it doesn't mean anything. They are totally objectiveless, and have no team icon to indicate they are a team antag. Every other team antagonist role has icons to indicate who you are not allowed to kill and must cooperate with. Ashwalker is just a fuck around role for dead miners, and you're putting your own thoughts on what the role should be instead of what it really is. If you want them to be considered a team antag, put a team icon on them, give them actual objectives, and then you'd be right.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:38 am**

>get killed by ash walkers
>immediatley respawn as one and start killing them
>okand hates muh rp

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:54 am**

It's not even a problem with RP. It's just an absolute lack of any indication that ashwalkers are a team antagonist role. If they are, it's absolutely unclear. There's just as much indication for changelings that you're supposed to work together.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:40 am**

Killing your fellow lizard because "Only the strong survive XDXXDXD" is on par with "I am just roleplaying my crazy murderer character XDXXDXD". Okand was entirely in the right, ghost roles have no rights but they are also not a license to grief

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:20 am**

Don't literally all ghost roles have a blurb telling you what your ghost role is supposed to do and not do and what the theme of your role is?

Besides, there's precedent for ghost-role-banning people who teamkill as an ashwalker. I'm pretty sure there was a thing on the forums with a miner who got fucked by lizards, then joined as one and killed their tendril out of salt and ate a weekban for it.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:28 am**

You guys, this isn't a ban appeal. This is okand's feedback thread.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:45 am**

Deleted constructive criticism in a ban appeal because it wasn't along with what they ruled. Didn't delete the *peanut gallery posts* that aligned with their view. Only mine and one responding to mine, which was well worded, respectful and offered insight to a different view about the situation. Also did so after the thread was locked to which I can only guess was because they didn't like the context of my argument to the point that it didn't need to be viewed by others in that tread.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:02 am**

Jembo wrote:Deleted constructive criticism in a ban appeal because it wasn't along with what they ruled. Didn't delete the *peanut gallery posts* that aligned with their view. Only mine and one responding to mine, which was well worded, respectful and offered insight to a different view about the situation. Also did so after the thread was locked to which I can only guess was because they didn't like the context of my argument to the point that it didn't need to be viewed by others in that tread.

You posted after the appeal that you were unrelated to was concluded. It isn't that your opinion isn't respected, its that no one needed to post past after the decision was made so unrelated posts were cleaned up.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:13 am**

But you didn't delete oranges post, TheColdTurtle's post, Saegrimr's post while an admin he really didn't have anything relevant to say. There was literally no reason to delete it outside the fact that you didn't like the context of what I typed after the thread was already locked.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:17 am**

Jembo wrote:But you didn't delete oranges post, TheColdTurtle's post, Saegrimr's post while an admin he really didn't have anything relevant to say. There was literally no reason to delete it outside the fact that you didn't like the context of what I typed after the thread was already locked.

They were before my post, not after. Hence why I said after the decision was made. I also did delete thecoldturtle's post that was after what I said.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:24 am**

That makes zero sense, It's okay for others to shitpost in a thread just as long as it's before your post? But offer a well throughout post argument that differs from your opinion? Nope gotta go. Sorry 2slow. I can understand if I was shitposting but that wasn't the case.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:26 am**

Jembo wrote:That makes zero sense, It's okay for others to shitpost in a thread just as long as it's before your post? But offer a well throughout post argument that differs from your opinion? Nope gotta go. Sorry 2slow. I can understand if I was shitposting but that wasn't the case.

I apologise if I am not phrasing this clearly, but I did state the point beforehand. I was deleting posts that were unrelated as they didn't require to be there, as the decision was already made. The thread was intended to be locked but there was a communication error in who was supposed to be locking it. Tehsteveo later turned and locked it, and I cleaned up any posts between ours as they were not required.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:30 am**

That still doesn't explain why my post was deleted, it was *cleaned up* but there wasn't anything to clean up. The thread was locked you should of just left it as is, nobody can interact with it. Other than the fact that you didn't like the context of my argument.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:32 am**

Jembo wrote:That still doesn't explain why my post was deleted, it was *cleaned up* but there wasn't anything to clean up. The thread was locked you should of just left it as is, nobody can interact with it. Other than the fact that you didn't like the context of my argument.

There wasn't really any issue with your argument, it was just intended to be locked after the decision was made so any posts past that point were cleaned up and removed. I'm awfully sorry if you feel this is against you personally, but it really isn't, it is simply a cleanup of unneeded posts as aforementioned. Hope that clears it up! : )

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:25 pm**

Has suddenly gone from being cute star to angry mecha, hopefully hasn't snapped from having 4NR trash filling up their nice and happy feedback thread which would be bad because they make the forums a nice and happy place to be

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:42 pm**

Seriously, I rely heavily on avatars to string post histories together in my mind. Please limit yourself to 1 (((one))) avatar with halloween and santa hat variants.
I am ok with you changing avatar if you suddenly become a dick tho.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:15 pm**

Iatots wrote:Seriously, I rely heavily on avatars to string post histories together in my mind. Please limit yourself to 1 (((one))) avatar with halloween and santa hat variants.
I am ok with you changing avatar if you suddenly become a dick tho.

You mean the person becoming a dick or the avatar being a dick?

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:42 am**

lzimann wrote:
Iatots wrote:Seriously, I rely heavily on avatars to string post histories together in my mind. Please limit yourself to 1 (((one))) avatar with halloween and santa hat variants.
I am ok with you changing avatar if you suddenly become a dick tho.
You mean the person becoming a dick or the avatar being a dick?

Both.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:49 pm**

Made a station that has proper floor tiling in maint 0/10.

Also might be Agent 47's predecessor.

But seriously super nice and the like. It's unnerving but good. 10/10.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:35 pm**

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:29 pm**

A good person and a great admin/mapper. Polite even when shit on, any bans Ive had from her are justified and shit, overall 10/10 would marry gladly vote her in again

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:59 pm**

Good person. We should suspend elections and keep these headmins indefinitely.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:05 pm**

So nice I can't tell if it is genuine or not.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:31 pm**

TheColdTurtle wrote:So nice I can't tell if it is genuine or not.

Might be fake.

Kor wrote:Good person. We should suspend elections and keep these headmins indefinitely.

Make Okand the Mega-Headmin. Above other headmins and never gets voted out. Mainly there to be the final decision on matters and to keep the other admins in line.

Spoiler:

Posted: **Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:16 am**

MrStonedOne wrote:

Posted: **Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:20 am**

Okand's back?! I might actually come back and play some more.

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:59 am**

Remove Okand37

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:12 pm**

Tsaricide is appalled by how nice okand is.

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:37 pm**

haven't seen a single pr yet from okand, this is disturbing.

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:47 pm**

kevinz000 wrote:Tsaricide is appalled by how nice okand is.

peoplearestrange wrote:Okand's back?! I might actually come back and play some more.

Tsaricide wrote:Remove Okand37

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:40 pm**

Far nicer than the Okand36 model

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:50 pm**

Friendly.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:56 pm**

Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:55 am**

Hathkar wrote:Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?

June 26, 2016 apparently

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:48 am**

Nilons wrote:
Hathkar wrote:Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?
June 26, 2016 apparently

To headmin, I mean.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:55 am**

never

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:08 am**

Hathkar wrote:
Nilons wrote:
Hathkar wrote:Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?
June 26, 2016 apparently
To headmin, I mean.

Yes, what we really need is them as headmin to quit after 2 months again.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:18 am**

I think you're just jealous of Okand.
They're a great person and a great Admin.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:20 pm**

If I give someone else headmin do I get gamemaster, or do I need to complete my term to get it

i guess not since okand's a game master if I recall correctly

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:33 pm**

Armhulen wrote:If I give someone else headmin do I get gamemaster, or do I need to complete my term to get it

i guess not since okand's a game master if I recall correctly

Technically you would need to complete your term, and in the eventuality of being removed of the txt(not necessarily being kicked or anything) you wouldn't get GameMaster again, but I guess that was ignored/not being done anymore.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:23 pm**

Okand should be just nominated by headmin vote like kor was

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:12 pm**

Hathkar wrote:
Nilons wrote:
Hathkar wrote:Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?
June 26, 2016 apparently
To headmin, I mean.

November 15th 2016
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 00#p226849

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:15 am**

Helped me out by porting me to thunderdome and spawning some gear when i wanted to test something out that would get me in trouble on the actual station!

Very helpful and good!

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:23 am**

Is a brilliant admin who is always willing to help.

Honestly how do you stay so happy all the time in this cesspit?!

Posted: **Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:08 am**

perhaps they start by not approaching it like it's a cesspit

Posted: **Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:41 pm**

Rustledjimm wrote:Is a brilliant admin who is always willing to help.

Honestly how do you stay so happy all the time in this cesspit?!

Every 6 to 9 months they quit for a year then come back.

Posted: **Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:02 pm**

Extremely friendly and approachable. I've admined with them on a few shifts and they seem to be putting a lot of work in for a gamemaster (probably the only gamemaster I have seen play since Shadow.) Literally putting in as much effort into this game as some of my fellow Trialmins, obviously must have an endgame.

Posted: **Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:45 pm**

CitrusGender wrote:Extremely friendly and approachable. I've admined with them on a few shifts and they seem to be putting a lot of work in for a gamemaster (probably the only gamemaster I have seen play since Shadow.) Literally putting in as much effort into this game as some of my fellow Trialmins, obviously must have an endgame.

what is "a lot of work" for a gamemaster?

Posted: **Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:13 pm**

A3STH3T1CS wrote:
CitrusGender wrote:Extremely friendly and approachable. I've admined with them on a few shifts and they seem to be putting a lot of work in for a gamemaster (probably the only gamemaster I have seen play since Shadow.) Literally putting in as much effort into this game as some of my fellow Trialmins, obviously must have an endgame.
what is "a lot of work" for a gamemaster?

The joke is that trialmins usually work harder than any other admin rank because they're new and enthusiastic about their work. You rarely see gamemasters logging on and answering tickets as much as trialmins/game admins. Check statbus if you don't believe me. Okand is the rare exception to this rule and I must say that they have never lost enthusiasm for what they do, always a pleasure to interact with.

Posted: **Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:08 pm**

I'm just going to post in here after more time and experience as an admin.

I have not seen anyone more caring and helpful than Okand is online. They are always happy to help any other admins online with any issues they come across and is excellent at getting their view across to players so they understand exactly what has happened. If they have done anything wrong they posses a brilliant manner in getting across to the player why what they did was wrong so they actually understand and can avoid doing so again. I wish I could admin like this.

Also their gondola events are a lot of fun.

Posted: **Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:31 am**

cya round space cowboy

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