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i'd judge someone who managed to piss the whole server off with hours long consecutive ooc rants by their cover too.

I will say this, I don't know this person but I can agree that admins shouldn't be outwardly saying that want to rule 0 people. We note people for metagruding all the time, we should at least be above saying that we want to rule 0 people outwardly. Still, I do not think they actually would rule 0 you though: and if they did, they would need to give proper reasoning.

it's a stupid thing to say where people can see you saying it

awesine wrote:

not a lie but i don't think i've literally ever had an interaction with you, ever, IC or OOC
feel free to remind me if we have though

Spoiler:

if you can't tell this is negative

Every interaction I've ever had with you, concerning you or even hearing about you is negative. You and I had an issue some time ago regarding a ruling when i was a canidate and was nothing but salt in ooc. Whenever about things youre doing, they are always something stupid or just to cause shit.
I have yet to see a reason to think otherwise. And theres few people I actually hold an opinion of.

I believe transparency is great Citrus. I said i wish to do so to him upon a conversation about perma's and rule 0's. It was on topic for the conversation and my opinion. I mean this is coming from someone who wishes to rule 0 goof for he brings nothing. I've gave players shape up or ship out talkings to. But I haven't seen awesine for a decent bit so perhaps he's doing better than before.

Okand37 wrote:I do not see, however, how this relates to their ingame conduct as an administrator.

decisions that result in applying an in-game ban absolutely fall into in-game conduct are you kidding me

having negative interactions with someone and getting assblasted at them over the forums over subjective shit (not outright trolling like oranges with the movie spoilers) and jumping straight to rule 0 in-game ban is super shitty admin conduct

in-game bans are, except for outstanding cases where the community at large is being put at a detriment, applied for in-game conduct and the fact that you're flagrantly showing off how you somehow don't understand this rustles my jimmies

like i can disagree vehemently over a plethora of issues on the forums or on github, but you don't see me rule 0ing everybody who so much as supports secborgs when i don't

PKPenguin321 wrote:

Okand37 wrote:I do not see, however, how this relates to their ingame conduct as an administrator.

decisions that result in applying an in-game ban absolutely fall into in-game conduct are you kidding me

having negative interactions with someone and getting assblasted at them over the forums over subjective shit (not outright trolling like oranges with the movie spoilers) and jumping straight to rule 0 in-game ban is super shitty admin conduct

in-game bans are, except for outstanding cases where the community at large is being put at a detriment, applied for in-game conduct and the fact that you're flagrantly showing off how you somehow don't understand this rustles my jimmies

You're treating an offhand comment and opinion as relating to their ingame conduct as an administrator. We don't hold what people say in the NTR hut or out of the game against them, why would it be any different in this situation?

"getting assblasted at them over the forums over subjective shit" added with "jumping straight to rule 0 in-game ban" doesn't make sense. Daturix didn't get upset at them over the forums or apply a rule 0 ban to them, in fact awesine was the person to bring it up in this feedback thread-I don't understand what point you're trying to make with this. Could you elaborate here?

Okand37 wrote:

PKPenguin321 wrote:

Okand37 wrote:I do not see, however, how this relates to their ingame conduct as an administrator.

decisions that result in applying an in-game ban absolutely fall into in-game conduct are you kidding me

having negative interactions with someone and getting assblasted at them over the forums over subjective shit (not outright trolling like oranges with the movie spoilers) and jumping straight to rule 0 in-game ban is super shitty admin conduct

in-game bans are, except for outstanding cases where the community at large is being put at a detriment, applied for in-game conduct and the fact that you're flagrantly showing off how you somehow don't understand this rustles my jimmies

You're treating an offhand comment and opinion as relating to their ingame conduct as an administrator. We don't hold what people say in the NTR hut or out of the game against them, why would it be any different in this situation?

are you serious? the statement was clearly not taken from the hut and has repercussions directly tied to the game

if an admin comes up to you and seriously says they want to rule 0 ban you it doesn't really matter where it's said, it relates to the game directly
him having no serious amount of interactions with the player in question ingame makes it so much worse too

PKPenguin321 wrote: are you serious? the statement was clearly not taken from the hut and has repercussions directly tied to the game

if an admin comes up to you and seriously says they want to rule 0 ban you it doesn't really matter where it's said, it relates to the game directly
him having no serious amount of interactions with the player in question ingame makes it so much worse too

I don't think I can see where you're coming from. I gave the hut as an example; We don't generally hold things that people say in OOC, discord, forums, or really anything out of ingame in regards to their opinions unless its currently breaking the rules (see: IC in OOC, OOC in IC, spamming, etc.) I did not state it was from the hut, however.

What I am getting at is that they never stated they were going to and, from what I can read here, never specifically went out of their way to target them. They shared their opinion on a topical manner relating to whatever conversation was at hand. You don't have to have a large amount of interactions with someone to have only negative ones or to only hear about their negative ones. Have you considered instead of trying to make an immediate counterargument you merely asked daturix here or over private messages why they thought that to gain the reasoning for their thoughts?

I might, additionally, suggest taking a look at awesine's notes if you yourself would like to know why daturix might share this view, but it is inevitably their own to explain their thoughts if they so desire. The sum of the point I am trying to make, however, is that they were sharing an opinion-not a ruling.

Regardless, this isn't the place to bicker like children. I would once again press that you approach daturix for the reasoning behind their thoughts or perhaps some examples before trying to defend or attack anyone on either side of the argument.

Bitch stop juggling like 10 ahelps on both servers simultaneously are you literally a masochist

Calibraptor wrote:Bitch stop juggling like 10 ahelps on both servers simultaneously are you literally a masochist

Don't you mean on ALL 3 servers?

His sig asked me to tell him how good or bad of an admin he is
The answer is I don't know

Called me a shitty player for politely disagreeing with him over discord. Didn't even apologize when 2 other admins told him insulting players for having an opinion is bad

I make a policy thread about said issue and within 10 minutes it was ruled my interpretation of the situation was correct.

They pretty good but shouldn’t let their anger get the best of them



Otherwise, goodmin

Dax Dupont wrote:Called me a shitty player for politely disagreeing with him over discord. Didn't even apologize when 2 other admins told him insulting players for having an opinion is bad

I make a policy thread about said issue and within 10 minutes it was ruled my interpretation of the situation was correct.

I am allowed to have opinions. Especially when I specifically state they are my personal opinion in a salt channel for debating in an unoffcial discord (ie being off hours at a friends house). If you were to try to find a less profeessional area you couldn't. If being told to not express my opinion in that area as I cannot have one that is unfavourable towards players in an unofficial (ie off hours area) then its unrealistic as it'd be one sided to allow one party to have opinions but not the other.
The policy's ruling has nothing to do with me as an admin and only begs to insult.

Alipheese wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:Called me a shitty player for politely disagreeing with him over discord. Didn't even apologize when 2 other admins told him insulting players for having an opinion is bad

I make a policy thread about said issue and within 10 minutes it was ruled my interpretation of the situation was correct.

I am allowed to have opinions. Especially when I specifically state they are my personal opinion in a salt channel for debating in an unoffcial discord (ie being off hours at a friends house). If you were to try to find a less profeessional area you couldn't. If being told to not express my opinion in that area as I cannot have one that is unfavourable towards players in an unofficial (ie off hours area) then its unrealistic as it'd be one sided to allow one party to have opinions but not the other.
The policy's ruling has nothing to do with me as an admin and only begs to insult.

The policy ruling was about the subject at hand. Which you were wrong about and decided to insult people for.

While discord is indeed less professional, it allows people to show their true character without worrying about getting deadmined sure. I still feel like this is a very very relevant insight to how you think about players who have a differing opinion regardless of where it took place.

It's very relevant as it shows you have tendency to lose cool, and as qbmax stated, it's an issue with you.

If you disagree whether it's relevant here or not, please do report the post and let the board moderators rule whether it's valid feedback or not.

Dax Dupont wrote:

Alipheese wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:Called me a shitty player for politely disagreeing with him over discord. Didn't even apologize when 2 other admins told him insulting players for having an opinion is bad

I make a policy thread about said issue and within 10 minutes it was ruled my interpretation of the situation was correct.

I am allowed to have opinions. Especially when I specifically state they are my personal opinion in a salt channel for debating in an unoffcial discord (ie being off hours at a friends house). If you were to try to find a less profeessional area you couldn't. If being told to not express my opinion in that area as I cannot have one that is unfavourable towards players in an unofficial (ie off hours area) then its unrealistic as it'd be one sided to allow one party to have opinions but not the other.
The policy's ruling has nothing to do with me as an admin and only begs to insult.

The policy ruling was about the subject at hand. Which you were wrong about and decided to insult people for.

While discord is indeed less professional, it allows people to show their true character without worrying about getting deadmined sure. I still feel like this is a very very relevant insight to how you think about players who have a differing opinion regardless of where it took place.

It's very relevant as it shows you have tendency to lose cool, and as qbmax stated, it's an issue with you.

If you disagree whether it's relevant here or not, please do report the post and let the board moderators rule whether it's valid feedback or not.

Go ahead and make your assumptions. I am done with you.

Dax Dupont wrote:

Alipheese wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:Called me a shitty player for politely disagreeing with him over discord. Didn't even apologize when 2 other admins told him insulting players for having an opinion is bad

I make a policy thread about said issue and within 10 minutes it was ruled my interpretation of the situation was correct.

I am allowed to have opinions. Especially when I specifically state they are my personal opinion in a salt channel for debating in an unoffcial discord (ie being off hours at a friends house). If you were to try to find a less profeessional area you couldn't. If being told to not express my opinion in that area as I cannot have one that is unfavourable towards players in an unofficial (ie off hours area) then its unrealistic as it'd be one sided to allow one party to have opinions but not the other.
The policy's ruling has nothing to do with me as an admin and only begs to insult.

The policy ruling was about the subject at hand. Which you were wrong about and decided to insult people for.

While discord is indeed less professional, it allows people to show their true character without worrying about getting deadmined sure. I still feel like this is a very very relevant insight to how you think about players who have a differing opinion regardless of where it took place.

It's very relevant as it shows you have tendency to lose cool, and as qbmax stated, it's an issue with you.

If you disagree whether it's relevant here or not, please do report the post and let the board moderators rule whether it's valid feedback or not.

Sligcord salt channels are not the place to look for admin professionalism

Nilons wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:

Alipheese wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:Called me a shitty player for politely disagreeing with him over discord. Didn't even apologize when 2 other admins told him insulting players for having an opinion is bad

I make a policy thread about said issue and within 10 minutes it was ruled my interpretation of the situation was correct.

I am allowed to have opinions. Especially when I specifically state they are my personal opinion in a salt channel for debating in an unoffcial discord (ie being off hours at a friends house). If you were to try to find a less profeessional area you couldn't. If being told to not express my opinion in that area as I cannot have one that is unfavourable towards players in an unofficial (ie off hours area) then its unrealistic as it'd be one sided to allow one party to have opinions but not the other.
The policy's ruling has nothing to do with me as an admin and only begs to insult.

The policy ruling was about the subject at hand. Which you were wrong about and decided to insult people for.

While discord is indeed less professional, it allows people to show their true character without worrying about getting deadmined sure. I still feel like this is a very very relevant insight to how you think about players who have a differing opinion regardless of where it took place.

It's very relevant as it shows you have tendency to lose cool, and as qbmax stated, it's an issue with you.

If you disagree whether it's relevant here or not, please do report the post and let the board moderators rule whether it's valid feedback or not.

Sligcord salt channels are not the place to look for admin professionalism

Frankly, when the players start carrying themselves with the level of "professionalism" they expect of admins I'll start taking complaints about professionalism seriously.

the only place admins have to be somewhat sensible is FNR, outside of that they can do what they like

Had an issue in xenobiology last night and Daturix responded to a message in Discord and hopped on and looked into it with no issues. Was very helpful in resolving the issue I was having. Just want to say thank you.

Does a cute anime girl voice and did a skylar meme for me 11/10

https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/ ... arkun3.ogg