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Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:05 pm
by saprasam

Bottom post of the previous page:

used to live on victoria, was a good time
dont want to sell it to the japanese though

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:37 pm
by XivilaiAnaxes
IkeTG wrote:not even close, mayb you should do your own reading idiot
I was about to start copying articles, but I remembered it's an Ike post, effort is wasted on you.

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:38 pm
by IkeTG
XivilaiAnaxes wrote: I was about to start copying articles.
that's plagiarism. Your honor, this man is cringe

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:29 pm
by cacogen
Rohen_Tahir wrote:I don't think selling the island to the Japanese will automatically create a portal between it and Japan.
You underestimate their power

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:24 am
by wesoda25
Yo I had a BIG thought tn.

I am perfectly alright with ss13 staying irrelevant forever. The sheer amount of people who know about the game due to its imfamy sickens me.

Like in 50 years when we’re all fucking gone and never coming back I am perfectly alright with it exploding or being deep sea trawled from the ocean that is the internet by a select griup of individuals is fine with me. At least then this game will be a genuine ghost ship in which one can read the posts and interactions and genuine characters of all of us. And the internet will just be this haunted technology, full of static images of infinite lives and emotions which give one the peculiar feeling of being watched. As if you’re just a bit off in your desired location in the timeline and you’re just a second behind reality, so are now just a

Anyways fuck this thread canada is stupid and japan fuck this thread

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:30 pm
by cacogen
In 50 years I will still be here

also this game is a preview of the future to come and if it takes normie relevance to escape BYOND that's a price we must pay for the true game to be realised this is only the beta

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:21 am
by Farquaar
cacogen wrote:In 50 years I will still be here

also this game is a preview of the future to come and if it takes normie relevance to escape BYOND that's a price we must pay for the true game to be realised this is only the beta
Part of what makes SS13 fun is that the game is woven together from the efforts of hundreds of people. The code is filled with secrets and Easter eggs to the point where someone could play the game for years and still continue to discover hidden features on a regular basis.

A remake can't capture that magic. I wish it could, but it can't. SS13 dies with BYOND.

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:00 am
by Rohen_Tahir
Farquaar wrote:
cacogen wrote:In 50 years I will still be here

also this game is a preview of the future to come and if it takes normie relevance to escape BYOND that's a price we must pay for the true game to be realised this is only the beta
Part of what makes SS13 fun is that the game is woven together from the efforts of hundreds of people. The code is filled with secrets and Easter eggs to the point where someone could play the game for years and still continue to discover hidden features on a regular basis.

A remake can't capture that magic. I wish it could, but it can't. SS13 dies with BYOND.
Unless someone makes a superior dreammaker language compiler.

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:29 am
by trollbreeder
Farquaar wrote:
cacogen wrote:In 50 years I will still be here

also this game is a preview of the future to come and if it takes normie relevance to escape BYOND that's a price we must pay for the true game to be realised this is only the beta
Part of what makes SS13 fun is that the game is woven together from the efforts of hundreds of people. The code is filled with secrets and Easter eggs to the point where someone could play the game for years and still continue to discover hidden features on a regular basis.

A remake can't capture that magic. I wish it could, but it can't. SS13 dies with BYOND.
Who says that a remake can't be woven together from the efforts of hundreds of people?
It does take a while considering you're back at square one, but it's still space station, it's still open source

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:30 am
by cacogen
Farquaar wrote:SS13 dies with BYOND.
There's already at least one remake in active development (SS14). If a standalone remake provided the same ease of contributing BYOND does eventually the width and detail of the game could be rebuilt eventually. But would it die a spiritual death in the process? Probably not, because we've been letting people lobotomise the game since or*nges assumed power and most people are quick to forget the things they used to enjoy about the game that have been changed or removed if they even notice them to begin with. The inevitable SOULLESS retards will insist upon themselves and SS13 Classic® servers will exist for people whose lives have only gone downhill in the past ten years though. Midway through this post it occurred to me SS13 servers probably don't need the BYOND site to be hosted and can probably continue indefinitely after the software is no longer officially supported.

Oh yeah, this about Canada or how I learned to stop worrying and love Japan

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:53 pm
by XSI
I've been told unitystation is a thing these days, and fairly good. Just without the years of random content ye olde ss13 has

Also yeah, canada. I guess they have problems but selling parts of their land to Japan is not going to fix any of them

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:27 pm
by cacogen
They should pay Japan to take Justin Trudeau

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:33 am
by Helios
oranges wrote:
Helios wrote:I still think this was a good idea
Why would japanese citizens move there, it's far away from their homeland, there's no jobs or infrastructure.

it would take hundreds of years to develop into a metropolis like the rest of japan and who knows what the geopolitical outlook would be then, you cant just take the average population density and assume it applies to empty land, people need things to be in place before they live there.
They would move there after it got built up. At first they would be piggybacking off of Canadian and America, but within a decade could become self sufficient.
There are incentives in place that would encourage manufacturing industry to move there. A lot of Canada's GDP is from natural resources, while Japan has a more developed manufacturing economy. Existing firms that process natural resources (like transforming cedar into wooden furniture, or petroleum into plastics) would have an incentive move there, as they wouldn't have to send the resources across the pacific for 2 months. It would save time and money. This would also reduce the cost of shipping of Japanese exports, so potentially low margin goods like food products could be easily imported.

There's also the undercurrent of decoupling from China, and the entering of Cold War 2.0 between the Western powers and China. Japan acting as a bulwark against Chinese influence is useful, and it would offer a policy alternative to american politicians wanting to reduce China's hold on business (If trump forced Tiktok to be sold, he could force businesses to allow Japanese firms to bid on contracts currently held by the Chinese)

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:36 am
by Helios
Farquaar wrote:Also, good luck reconciling any potential sale of British Columbia with section 35 of Canada's Constitution. You'd be screwing over the natives even more than they're being screwed over now- assuming the courts would even allow such a boneheaded move to begin with.
I don't think so.
I would suggest paying them all off. 1 billion yen, or 10 million USD.
There's under 5000 people living on the island, and over 100 million Japanese. Paying them off would get rid of any headaches. No one would consider the recipient of a billion yen to be a victim

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:58 am
by Farquaar
Helios wrote:
Farquaar wrote:Also, good luck reconciling any potential sale of British Columbia with section 35 of Canada's Constitution. You'd be screwing over the natives even more than they're being screwed over now- assuming the courts would even allow such a boneheaded move to begin with.
I don't think so.
I would suggest paying them all off. 1 billion yen, or 10 million USD.
There's under 5000 people living on the island, and over 100 million Japanese. Paying them off would get rid of any headaches. No one would consider the recipient of a billion yen to be a victim
If Indigenous groups were that easy to bribe, it would have been done already.

You have to be trolling. I refuse to believe that you are this ignorant. Selling rural Canadian land to Japan will not transform that land into neo-Tokyo. It will still be forest and taiga. Japan is limited by the same development cost constraints as Canada.

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:06 am
by Tlaltecuhtli
sell it to china they ll totally buy it

Re: Affirmative Politics, or why Canada should sell land to the Japanese

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:59 pm
by thehogshotgun
Sell it to america we need a new state. Soon we shall finally conquer canada