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Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:36 pm**

Bottom post of the previous page:

BONERMASTER wrote:To be fair, a 3D printed gun is total rubbish, there is this nice weapons dealer on youtube that tested this out, and concluded it would pretty likely blow up and kill the shooter as well. I mean, there's only so many things you can do with this plastic shit or whatever it is these printers use, and lots of moving mechanical parts mixed with explosives and high stress on the structure probably isn't one of them.

I used to think that. But the tech is evolving rapidly. There are plenty of gun hobbyist channels on Youtube that showcase semi-automatic and fully automatic 3D printed firearms at shooting ranges. They're remarkably durable, and definitely make for a dangerous weapon.

It's inevitable, really. Traditional designs don't work with plastic materials? Create new designs that reinforce those vulnerable areas. PLA not tough enough to withstand fully automatic fire? Use tougher plastic, like PLA+. These aren't like those early one-shot matchlock printed pistols that you saw five years ago.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:41 pm**

u cant 3d print bullets

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:44 pm**

your way of swailing is by spraying fire at fire until it isnt as hot as it was before

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:45 pm**

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:u cant 3d print bullets

ever heard of the ss13 autolathe?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:03 pm**

Timonk if you're so scared of guns why dont you move to a country where there are none

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:04 pm**

sorry i already live in germany

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:40 pm**

So why do you keep sperging about other countries laws? You don't see me making threads complaining about how the Chinese government made skeletons illegal

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:28 pm**

Super Aggro Crag wrote:So why do you keep sperging about other countries laws? You don't see me making threads complaining about how the Chinese government made skeletons illegal

there's this hero in dota called wraith king, he used to be skeleton king but then dota got big in china and valve being a bunch of cucks just turned him into wraith king globally. nowadays there's a very expensive and rare skin that you can get to turn him back into his skeleton self. fuck you valve.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:41 pm**

Super Aggro Crag wrote:So why do you keep sperging about other countries laws? You don't see me making threads complaining about how the Chinese government made skeletons illegal

because people die from guns and you dont die from seeing a corpse instead of a skeleton

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:05 pm**

Timonk wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:So why do you keep sperging about other countries laws? You don't see me making threads complaining about how the Chinese government made skeletons illegal
because people die from guns and you dont die from seeing a corpse instead of a skeleton

Guns don't kill people, people use guns to kill people

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:49 pm**

knives are less lethal and have to be applied from close range, giving you more of a chance on the off chance someone comes in your house to rob and murder you

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:05 pm**

Timonk wrote:knives are less lethal and have to be applied from close range, giving you more of a chance on the off chance someone comes in your house to rob and murder you

Are you mentally handicapped? A close range knife will do far, far more damage than a close range gun. A student stabbed 21 people. If a CRIMINAL is gonna rob you he PROBABLY is already a CRIMINAL and so will obtain a weapon ILLEGALLY. People who want to kill people will kill people, no matter what. If they want to kill you and they can't get a gun they will stab you or pour FUCKING ACID ON YOUR FACE YOU IMBECILE

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:18 pm**

bringing a knife to a fistfight can backfire really hard, if someone manages to disarm you you're fucked
you could say it's a double edged blade

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:21 pm**

terranaut wrote:bringing a knife to a fistfight can backfire really hard, if someone manages to disarm you you're fucked
you could say it's a double edged blade

I despise you. Aside from the joke, you have to be really good to beat someone using a knife. It's a force multiplier, and someone with a knife is really dangerous. The only thing that can beat a knife (aside from years of martial arts training) is a firearm or maybe another knife.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:22 pm**

if some retard whos never been in a fight before pulls a knife you literally just have to grab and then break his wrist and you can stab him

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:34 pm**

hes gonna stab you in the hand before you will ever be able to grab him terra

also what would you rather have? a bullet in your head or a knife in your stomach?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:42 pm**

If someone pulls a knife on you either cooperate or throw your coat/bag at them and run. Trying to grapple a knife is a moronic move, your just as likely to be injured as they are.

As for guns vs knife, the whole point of a gun is that you have a range advantage. Why would you get close enough to be knife'd?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:52 pm**

wow people still using blades in 2021, i think guns should be outlawed as they can be used in offense, while landmines: they cant be used for school shooting, murder sprees etc but they are excellent in home defense from burglars and corrupt government. you know why the media doesnt ever talk about claymores? yeah cause they dont want you to know about efficiency and want you to waste money while feeding the gun industry and blacksmiths syndicate

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:04 pm**

chocolate_bickie wrote: your just as likely to be injured as they are.

this is why pulling a knife if you're not 100% sure you know how to use it is dumb

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:15 pm**

Timonk wrote:your way of swailing is by spraying fire at fire until it isnt as hot as it was before

The analogy kind of breaks down because fire always produces more fire for as long as there is fuel instead of fire production being dependent on economic stuff.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:36 pm**

Timonk wrote:hes gonna stab you in the hand before you will ever be able to grab him terra

also what would you rather have? a bullet in your head or a knife in your stomach?

I'd rather have a knife in my stomach.
I'd also prefer to have a bullet in my stomach than a knife in my eyesocket or throat.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:43 pm**

timonk you fucking retard, you don't have "a knife in your stomach" you have "16 horrible sucking open puncture wounds" in the stomach

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:15 pm**

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:wow people still using blades in 2021, i think guns should be outlawed as they can be used in offense, while landmines: they cant be used for school shooting, murder sprees etc but they are excellent in home defense from burglars and corrupt government. you know why the media doesnt ever talk about claymores? yeah cause they dont want you to know about efficiency and want you to waste money while feeding the gun industry and blacksmiths syndicate

what? are you gonna set up mines with owner detection?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:16 pm**

Super Aggro Crag wrote:timonk you fucking retard, you don't have "a knife in your stomach" you have "16 horrible sucking open puncture wounds" in the stomach

isnt that the same with a gun from afar?
also it takes a different kind of person to stab someone 16 times than to shoot someone 16 times
ever seen a marine go into knife combat and stabbing the opponent more than needed?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:17 pm**

there are police officers who shoot a criminal 16 times
ever heard of a police officer stabbing someone 16 times? (on duty, nothing like hurr durr single case officer psychopath murders his wife)

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:20 pm**

Timonk wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:timonk you fucking retard, you don't have "a knife in your stomach" you have "16 horrible sucking open puncture wounds" in the stomach
isnt that the same with a gun from afar?
also it takes a different kind of person to stab someone 16 times than to shoot someone 16 times
ever seen a marine go into knife combat and stabbing the opponent more than needed?

Where did you even see a marine go into knife combat at all?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:22 pm**

terranaut wrote:bringing a knife to a fistfight can backfire really hard, if someone manages to disarm you you're fucked
you could say it's a double edged blade

The way I get around this is by bringing a double edged chainsword to my fistfights and it has that thing jet skis have where the engine stops if it escapes you

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:48 pm**

cacogen wrote:
terranaut wrote:bringing a knife to a fistfight can backfire really hard, if someone manages to disarm you you're fucked
you could say it's a double edged blade
The way I get around this is by bringing a double edged chainsword to my fistfights and it has that thing jet skis have where the engine stops if it escapes you

damn, that's actually pretty smart.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:08 pm**

Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Timonk wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:timonk you fucking retard, you don't have "a knife in your stomach" you have "16 horrible sucking open puncture wounds" in the stomach
isnt that the same with a gun from afar?
also it takes a different kind of person to stab someone 16 times than to shoot someone 16 times
ever seen a marine go into knife combat and stabbing the opponent more than needed?
Where did you even see a marine go into knife combat at all?

dolphins, man

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:34 pm**

Timonk wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:timonk you fucking retard, you don't have "a knife in your stomach" you have "16 horrible sucking open puncture wounds" in the stomach
isnt that the same with a gun from afar?
also it takes a different kind of person to stab someone 16 times than to shoot someone 16 times
ever seen a marine go into knife combat and stabbing the opponent more than needed?

this isnt the fucking movies, you don't poke someone with the knife and leave it in and they drop instantly

murdering someone with a knife is fucking brutal and messy and you keep fucking stabbing them until they stop making noises and moving

the *minimum* amount of stabs I have heard of being instructed is 2 stabs to the liver/kidney region and a slash across the throat, and that's when ur attacking a german from behind

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:37 pm**

Crag is actually the Zodiac killer

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:39 pm**

cacogen wrote:Crag is actually the Zodiac killer

Zodiac only stabbed 2 people, one of who survived. With 8 stab wounds in the back. Which is why you need to be thorough.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:36 pm**

I never said you're supposed to stab once, just proves its saver to get stabbed 8 times vs getting shot 8 times

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:15 am**

Timonk wrote:I never said you're supposed to stab once, just proves its saver to get stabbed 8 times vs getting shot 8 times

People have been shot by cops like 15 times and still were able to stand and walk towards officers with a knife

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:22 am**

Timonk wrote:I never said you're supposed to stab once, just proves its saver to get stabbed 8 times vs getting shot 8 times

It really depends.
A bullet wound is small but deep and hard to heal.
What a knife would is depends on what the attacker does and what knife was used.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:31 am**

thehogshotgun wrote:
Timonk wrote:I never said you're supposed to stab once, just proves its saver to get stabbed 8 times vs getting shot 8 times

People have been shot by cops like 15 times and still were able to stand and walk towards officers with a knife

Did they survive?

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:32 am**

Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Timonk wrote:I never said you're supposed to stab once, just proves its saver to get stabbed 8 times vs getting shot 8 times
It really depends.
A bullet wound is small but deep and hard to heal.
What a knife would is depends on what the attacker does and what knife was used.

It's the same if you get stabbed into a vital spot vs you get shot in a vital spot

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:39 am**

aaaaaaaaa

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:39 am**

Rohen_Tahir wrote:A bullet wound is small but deep and hard to heal.

Depends on the caliber and ammo type. Small caliber FMJ rounds will usually not fragment or tumble terribly much, but if you get shot with a JHP round you'll end up with a wound channel much like Mr. Grapefruit:

Timonk wrote:It's the same if you get stabbed into a vital spot vs you get shot in a vital spot

The attacker eventually dies in both cases, but with a stab wound they will usually always be incapacitated by severe blood loss (which can take minutes), while gunshot wounds can pretty much instantly incapacitate an attacker if the brain stem/spinal column are damaged.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:43 am**

Denton wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:A bullet wound is small but deep and hard to heal.
Depends on the caliber and ammo type. Small caliber FMJ rounds will usually not fragment or tumble terribly much, but if you get shot with a JHP round you'll end up with a wound channel much like Mr. Grapefruit:

Timonk wrote:It's the same if you get stabbed into a vital spot vs you get shot in a vital spot
The attacker eventually dies in both cases, but with a stab wound they will usually always be incapacitated by severe blood loss (which can take minutes), while gunshot wounds can pretty much instantly incapacitate an attacker if the brain stem/spinal column are damaged.

Informative, thanks.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:46 am**

That means the defender has more time to run away after being stabbed

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:46 am**

BONERMASTER wrote:To be fair, a 3D printed gun is total rubbish, there is this nice weapons dealer on youtube that tested this out, and concluded it would pretty likely blow up and kill the shooter as well. I mean, there's only so many things you can do with this plastic shit or whatever it is these printers use, and lots of moving mechanical parts mixed with explosives and high stress on the structure probably isn't one of them.

You don't necessarily need a 3D printer, you can craft (shitty) firearms with just sheet metal and some tools. Look at Brasil for example: https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/tag/brazil/

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:38 am**

MrStonedOne wrote:
Timonk wrote:What if the USA prohibited gun use from the start of modern guns(special cases like army, hunters excluded, basically you can't buy an AR 15 at best buy) so they didn't spread in first place?

No people that made shooting to their hobbies
No gun loving patriots
People actually see rifles as what they are, dangerous metal pea shooters)
The point of the 2nd amendment is to provide a recourse against a corrupt government. If the people can't buy what the army has, the 2nd amendment is useless.

The second amendment is to provide a recourse for a state of America against any government, including federal. That's essentially what the National Guard is, a well regulated militia with firearm access uninfringed by the federal government

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:52 am**

Bruh the national guard is part of the government.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:57 am**

Steal This Book teaches you how to make a four-winds shotgun, and that was 60's info.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:59 am**

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh the national guard is part of the government.

We purposely shuffle and disperse the armed forces around the country to prevent them from being able to coalesce around any specific state government, as this was something that did happen and was a big

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:16 am**

Rotating forces away from home is a practice dating back thousands of years. The real threat of tyranny comes from the federal level. Whoever kicks out the federal government usually dictates the new order.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:43 pm**

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh the national guard is part of the government.

My bad, I meant the state's guards, I thought they were the same thing but you're right that they're federal entities.

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:27 pm**

what if americans held hands and banned guns because guns are racist

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:26 pm**

Flatulent wrote:what if americans held hands and banned guns because guns are racist

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:33 pm**

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