[Announce] New-TG Fallout13 beta

Blackjack · Post by **Blackjack** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:30 pm #265985

Hello! I'm back to told you about the new project.
Please, don't wipe that topic, I have really cool news.

I'm sure, that most of you played TG-fallout13. A lot of time passed, since it was updated. It was be something like unfinished alpha or something like.
But now, I want to told you about the New version - newTG-fallout13. This build use new TG codebase, includes all of it features in - like a amputable limbs and coloured lights. Most of fallouters wishes that thing, yeah?
Sure, this is not all! There is some new, really new cool features.

*Exclusive sound and ambient system (just wait for release and listen up!)
*Daytime passing. Sunset is unreal nice-looking! (for top-down2d game, ofc.)
*campfires
*New, extended map, with the RANDOM generation.
*Hunger, deadly starving and thirst.
*Overhauled transport. Let's FORGET about key in your hand! Now, all of you need - just insert key and start engine. Started engine eats fuel. The fuel is liquid (this is NOT petrol) and you can find it at the Red rocket gas stations or barrels.
*Walls is more realistic now. Wooden walls is the walls of wood, not metal. You cant wield it anymore, you must to find sledgehammer and smash it.
*Tamed animals! You're able to tame dogs or the bears and will take command them by saying some keywords.
*You unable able see, what's happens in the back of your character.
*And some less important things.

Estimated time of release: the end of the march - begin of the april.
Please, stand by.
Oh, yeah, I have some pic's:
Wall destruction blast test:

Spoiler:

Wall destruction sledgehammer test

Spoiler:

sumbway

Spoiler:

Sunset: http://imgur.com/a/OvE66

Remie Richards · Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:37 pm

You won't get any love from our dev team while you refuse to follow the code license.

danno · Post by **danno** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:09 pm #265997

fuck off dude your thing sucks

lzimann · Post by **lzimann** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:27 pm #266002

Normally I wouldn't mind, but what Remie said is correct.

Blackjack · Post by **Blackjack** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:08 pm #266059

Calm down, I think, when build will became final version, source will be opened for TG team. Why so much panic? Don't be so misery.
Last time we was released very raw alpha with the opensource. You must understand, that raw wersion is not good. So, what's happend? Anyone who is not lazy took it and host. Some people look on this and pinned label "Just SS13 resprite!!! No features!!! A bucket of brahmin shit!!!". So, first stage of the project is just a basis, I do not denie that. But when really features (day/night, hunger/thirst) was appeared, nobody one is not even notice it, because it just drowned in shitty subbuilds with inadeqate ERP mechanic. Some people has mixed up outdated version of the F13-ERP-edition and upgraded F13 with the new features. There were cases, when banned people from ERP-edition was written our admins to unban, but they But they do not have the slightest relation for F13ERP.
When the team realized that it really hampered, source became closed.
Sure, there is 2 evils - opensource whith a problems, written me above and closed source with the problem of relationships of original TG content of the owner. But this is so stupid.The problem is solved in a different way. This is called a compromise.
I suggest you to call creator of F13 - Bart Nixon and discuss that problem, not resorting to resentment. Bart is the most equitable and smart man, what I even know. A grudge is a heavy burden to carry.

There is link to discord channel just discuss it. - https://discord.gg/Qse44fW.

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:38 pm #266069

fuck off Remie jesus christ

Contact me if you need any help with /tg/ code, remie's being a butt for whatever reason.

This is effectively it's own game at this point, who gives a fuck if they open source or not?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:49 pm #266079

that isn't how licenses work

kevinz000 · Post by **kevinz000** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:09 pm #266092

Implying goofball isn't the real ass here.

Jacough · Post by **Jacough** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:57 pm #266111

inadeqate ERP mechanic

What the fuck.

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:00 pm #266114

DemonFiren wrote:that isn't how licenses work

They're also in Russia so licenses don't matter

Blackjack · Post by **Blackjack** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:10 pm #266857

I think you'll change your mind when F13 will released. Because even "raw" alpha is very popular, though, only "resprited vanilla". F13 dev's is not to capture of money from players, they do not have a lifeweb-style price list, but only donations for hosting and some "пиво".
Please, stop that useless hysteria.

Shadowlight213 · Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:06 pm

iamgoofball wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:that isn't how licenses work
They're also in Russia so licenses don't matter

That's an extremely disrespectful point of view goof, as you're saying you don't give a damn about the wishes of the other coders for this codebase, a number of which, including myself, would not like their code to be used in a closed source codebase.

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:11 pm #267070

If anyone is going to kill this it won't be us

Spoiler:

That said yeah, not allowed. Don't be a dick.
Or be a dick, but don't expect much help.

iamgoofball · Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:17 pm

I like how you all missed how they said they'd open source once it's more finished you stallman dicksuckers

Shadowlight213 · Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:30 pm

It's perfectly fine for them to develop the codebase in private. They are mentioning hosting public servers with it soon, which is where AGPL requires open source.

I have nothing against the developers personally. I just don't want to have other people get ideas that it's fine to ignore the license and stay closed source.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:42 am #267157

iamgoofball wrote:I like how you all missed how they said they'd open source once it's more finished you stallman dicksuckers

because the promise of a future action means its okay to do something now that goes against them anyways?

if I promise to buy you an RX 480 in a little while and you steal $300 from me to go buy one right now I'm going to be pissed with you and the law will be on my side

Post by **oranges** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:36 am #267181

I hope op's computer blows up.

Blackjack · Post by **Blackjack** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:52 am #267364

That sounds like if the Counter Strike dev has been stealed half-life engine, or DoTA stealed warcraft3 engine. Pointless and ruthless.
Some guys from american community not so long ago are tried to develope F13 by closed source, without permit of Bart Nixon. Why they did not do this? Because they didn't do anything, LoL.
It was same from our side, but the most people said "Thats OK, fuck that license)))".
When it does Russian team, your're said "YOU'RE GOING TO VIOLATE OUR LAWS!!11!@@ YOU ARE NOT RESPECT US!1!!1)))"
It smell like double standarts, right? It smell like someone's ass is burned.
https://www.digg.com/r/SS13/comments/ ... what_does/

So why do you see the piece of sawdust in another believer's eye and not notice the wooden beam in your own eye? From Matthew, 7-3-5

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:03 pm #267367

The fuck am I even reading?

onleavedontatme · Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:20 pm

Saegrimr wrote:The fuck am I even reading?

Some group of Americans violated copyright to make their closed source FO13 server at some point so we're hypocrites for being American and telling Russians not to do it.

I think.

Remie Richards · Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:56 pm

We would have told them the same had they come to our forums to advertise.
and I'm pretty sure they were told about it on the digg anyway.

Blackjack · Post by **Blackjack** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:43 pm #267423

Here is appeal to the community by Alex Cooper (known as Godsring):

I would like to publicly denounce the FALLOUT INTERNATIONAL server for using stolen code and attempting to name the server "NEW CODE" claiming work that was not done by them after fooling both the founder of the project Bart Nixon and his head coder into giving them access. I hope the community at least will denounce their effort to claim credit.
Godsring/Alex Cooper ~ Owner/Developer of Dungeon Master on byond. I make this statement in good faith as a developer and game creator who has been involved with many byond projects as well as the PCSX2 project. http://www.byond.com/games/Godsring/DungeonMaster
http://forums.pcsx2.net/User-desertofunknown
These people are one of the main reasons we are keeping our code closed source as to avoid people from steal credit for work or those who would otherwise host and abuse the playerbase.
The original open source github
https://github.com/BartNixon/Fallout13
Owned by our founder Bart Nixon who is currently still working on the project with us.

Appeal from Bart Nixon:

So much has changed overtime, but I still contribute to the build that is now a closed source.
By the way, I believe it will get open sourced once again - the main reason it became closed in the first place, was a fairly significant competition and a need to attract coders to a centralized development.
If we get to open source the build, my GitHub will be the place to find it.

So, closing build is temporary actions for the protection of development and protection from uncontrolled reproduction of the dead-end branches (Yeah, I mean less-edited stupidly ERP-editions without any really new code, calling themselves "NEW CODE!"). When it was finished (v 2.0), source will be open again.
Just look the new release and then make your opinion.
Do I like your comments, or not, thank you for your opinions, this is important too. Standby.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:02 pm #267471

Would be a shame if someone contacted Bethesda

TheColdTurtle · Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:25 pm

>Beth caring about a 2d atmosphere simulator with a fallout skin
???????

John_Oxford · Post by **John_Oxford** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:43 pm #267485

t. coders upset about slavs being more competent than them then compensating in the thread as goofball sits and says "fuck you all i do what i want"

Remie Richards · Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:44 pm

John_Oxford wrote:t. coders upset about slavs being more competent than them then compensating in the thread as goofball sits and says "fuck you all i do what i want"

John oxford once again proving he's either an idiot or literally doesn't understand the words he's saying.

Remie Richards · Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:44 pm

John_Oxford wrote:t. coders upset about slavs being more competent than them then compensating in the thread as goofball sits and says "fuck you all i do what i want"

John oxford once again proving he's either an idiot or literally doesn't understand the words he's saying.

John_Oxford · Post by **John_Oxford** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:46 pm #267492

>coder trys to project to oxford but fails to realize he is oxford

can't wake up

Bolien · Post by **Bolien** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:49 pm #267494

You really need to be thrown in the shed permanently, Oxford.

Jacough · Post by **Jacough** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:26 pm #267525

I for one can barely understand a word this slav urchin is saying. It's like he ran his posts through Google translator to Portuguese and then ran the resulting Portuguese through to English before posting it here.

John_Oxford · Post by **John_Oxford** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:28 am #267711

Bolien wrote:You really need to be thrown in the shed permanently, Oxford.

they put me in there one time

i kicked the door down and walked straight back into policy discussion and told them to fuck off.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:51 am #267720

John_Oxford wrote:
Bolien wrote:You really need to be thrown in the shed permanently, Oxford.
they put me in there one time

i kicked the door down and walked straight back into policy discussion and told them to fuck off.

policy discussion is the new containment board

FantasticFwoosh · Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:56 pm

Remie Richards wrote:
John_Oxford wrote:t. coders upset about slavs being more competent than them then compensating in the thread as goofball sits and says "fuck you all i do what i want"
John oxford once again proving he's either an idiot or literally doesn't understand the words he's saying.

Thats my job. Eitherway, if you're just going to take the code enjoy your free CIA malware imported from the USA.

Post by **Armhulen** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:30 pm #267933

Qbopper wrote:
John_Oxford wrote:
Bolien wrote:You really need to be thrown in the shed permanently, Oxford.
they put me in there one time

i kicked the door down and walked straight back into policy discussion and told them to fuck off.
policy discussion is the new containment board

Don't you have an admin board to be in right now?

factoryman942 · Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:17 pm

Why the fuck is this in ideas
Of all places

Shadowlight213 · Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:29 pm

Actually this would probably be better in the coding subforum. I'll move it.

Post by **oranges** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:55 pm #268147

It's offtopic

ColonicAcid · Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:53 pm