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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby leibniz » Thu May 10, 2018 3:53 pm #409010

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Anonmare » Thu May 10, 2018 9:15 pm #409134

I don't particularly care for any of the news outlets. They're there to sell a story first and they'll talk about whatever sells more, it's why a lot of celebrity shite gets overinflated attention whilst some stories of actual substance get pushed to the side or barely get a footnote
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby FantasticFwoosh » Thu May 10, 2018 9:57 pm #409139

Ronald Reagan was a actor


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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby XSI » Thu May 10, 2018 10:04 pm #409140

I suppose it does help in making the news pay attention to the guy

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby cedarbridge » Fri May 11, 2018 1:44 pm #409262

XSI wrote:I suppose it does help in making the news pay attention to the guy

That's where a lot of Trumps's successes seem to come from, really. He litigates everything out in the public square where everyone can see it. It makes people in power have to fight him over it in public. If you do that and then position yourself so that, as president this is mostly default in almost all cases, you can go either direction from that position and maintain traction, you can do whatever you want without major interference from insider types.

Look at it from the Iranian angle. You've got politicians who voraciously opposed the Iran Deal coming out of the woodwork to carp about Trump backing out of it (like he said he would and we should) after those exact same people spent the better part of the Obama era carping about how we should not sign off on the Iran Deal. You don't have to be super clever if you're just loud enough to make political opponents out themselves and undermine their own opposition.

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Grazyn » Fri May 11, 2018 4:52 pm #409280

Conservatives didn't agree because they believed Iran wouldn't have respected the treaty. It turned out that it was actually working but peace doesn't make money and Israel and the Saudis want Iran off their business especially in Syria. Trump is Israel's lapdog and a war is always a good way to jump out of an economic crisis. A big land war also dramatically cuts down youth unemployment, and the Trump administration will desperately need good stats for the second term campaign.

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby XSI » Fri May 11, 2018 7:53 pm #409315

Wasnt there a number out saying there's more open jobs in Trumpland than unemployment?

Turns out, you can't just directly say 1 unemployed person = 1 person that can go take that job

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby FantasticFwoosh » Fri May 11, 2018 8:13 pm #409320

Israel literally put Trumps face on their money ahead of Cyrus of Persia as a sybolic jesture, i do think they are very pleased with the geopol situation.

You're forgetting the fact that the Iranians broke the treaty in the first place while literally being airdropped money in sacks especially not do the thing they have been doing covertly to then outwardly started being hostile the moment the money stopped. Its not a case that Trump cancelling the deal caused this, its that Iran stopped getting their racket money from the same groups of despots Obama funneled taxpayer money into while the American economy was weak and recovering from the 2008 economic crash and paid billions of taxpayer dollars to recieve half battered POW's from North Korea which Trump and the standing whitehouse negotiated a peaceful transaction for free.

Iran is a wahabbist Theocracy where politics and religion are virtually the same, though we should approach each country as pragmatic for their own policies, if Israel hadn't dumped in a lot of money into the iron dome and a westernized army they'd all literally be executed under islamic law or further persecuted by mobs of religous infused dissidents, its a matter of survival.

Drumpf literally is worse than hitler - at being hitler versus someone who could probably pass for middle eastern hitler for the same brand of oppressive regime in a idelogical context that prescribes social cleansing on certain groups.

XSI wrote:Wasnt there a number out saying there's more open jobs in Trumpland than unemployment?

Turns out, you can't just directly say 1 unemployed person = 1 person that can go take that job


Well there will be significantly more open jobs when ICE and the courts haul ass to shut down migrant havens for implicitly committing felonies in harboring illegals and get that wall built to stop the bulk and let them push more resources to stopping the more convert ways in.

Like honestly, the moment Trump announced a wall literally everyone ragged on the fact that 'Lmao you can just dig under and fly over it' well with more disposable resources because you blocked the obvious entry point for most unprepared civilians you can focus on traffickers setting up illegal migrant route options and shutting down existing routes.


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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Anonmare » Fri May 11, 2018 8:38 pm #409324

And the gun runners smuggling weapons into Mexico, they're as bad as the human traffickers
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ColonicAcid » Fri May 11, 2018 9:11 pm #409329

whabbahism is fucking sunni lmao

what the fuck is u saying my man iran is not sunni.
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby FantasticFwoosh » Fri May 11, 2018 9:37 pm #409335

Urgh, time to fish for a new arguement, though if anybody all the same edit out the bits where i mention whabbism and subsitute 'religion of peace' and the statement still works with the rest of the bells & whistles of the arguement, i wish someone would have jumped in to correct me with a accurate answer rather than having to reaffirm some fact checking though its probably a good thing in a way.


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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Grazyn » Fri May 11, 2018 9:50 pm #409338

FantasticFwoosh wrote:
XSI wrote:Wasnt there a number out saying there's more open jobs in Trumpland than unemployment?

Turns out, you can't just directly say 1 unemployed person = 1 person that can go take that job


Well there will be significantly more open jobs when ICE and the courts haul ass to shut down migrant havens for implicitly committing felonies in harboring illegals and get that wall built to stop the bulk and let them push more resources to stopping the more convert ways in.

Like honestly, the moment Trump announced a wall literally everyone ragged on the fact that 'Lmao you can just dig under and fly over it' well with more disposable resources because you blocked the obvious entry point for most unprepared civilians you can focus on traffickers setting up illegal migrant route options and shutting down existing routes.

If what XSI is saying is true it means that illegals aren't already taking your jobs, it's just that young Americans don't want to do landscaping and latrine cleaning. Deporting people who do that won't magically make Americans take those jobs

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Malkevin » Fri May 11, 2018 10:29 pm #409343

FantasticFwoosh wrote:Israel literally put Trumps face on their money ahead of Cyrus of Persia as a sybolic jesture, i do think they are very pleased with the geopol situation.

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby XSI » Fri May 11, 2018 11:43 pm #409355

Grazyn wrote:
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
XSI wrote:Wasnt there a number out saying there's more open jobs in Trumpland than unemployment?

Turns out, you can't just directly say 1 unemployed person = 1 person that can go take that job


Well there will be significantly more open jobs when ICE and the courts haul ass to shut down migrant havens for implicitly committing felonies in harboring illegals and get that wall built to stop the bulk and let them push more resources to stopping the more convert ways in.

Like honestly, the moment Trump announced a wall literally everyone ragged on the fact that 'Lmao you can just dig under and fly over it' well with more disposable resources because you blocked the obvious entry point for most unprepared civilians you can focus on traffickers setting up illegal migrant route options and shutting down existing routes.

If what XSI is saying is true it means that illegals aren't already taking your jobs, it's just that young Americans don't want to do landscaping and latrine cleaning. Deporting people who do that won't magically make Americans take those jobs


Amusing how the free market is a great ideal for rich people, until you cut it off from free migration so they'll have to make the choice between good wages and the job plainly not getting done.
It's not just landscaping and cleaning jobs either, think 12 hour shifts in meat processing plants for minimum wage with no benefits, truck driving with 4 or 5 hours of sleep per day or you won't make your quota, and so on.

And without illegals who have no choice but to accept any job just to get some money, they'll have to improve the job's circumstances or raise wages to make people consider it worthwhile.
Oil workers get paid a lot to work long hours in harsh conditions, and nobody is complaining about the lack of people willing to do that. Yet cutting up cows in a dark factory with no airflow and too much heat is done for practically nothing because Pablo is given the choice of taking the job or the boss reporting him and having him deported as example for the rest.

It will of course take a bit of time as they'll stubbornly demand to bring in 'skilled' migrant workers instead of raising wages or improving conditions, and they'll keep everything but the most essential jobs open with nobody stupid enough to take them, but eventually they will have to understand that the slave-class they've come to rely on is gone and then they will adjust accordingly

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Sat May 12, 2018 1:19 am #409370

Slavery is fucking gay
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Sat May 12, 2018 1:19 am #409369

Slavery is fucking gay
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 1:37 am #409380

Illegals are just modern day slaves.
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Screemonster » Sat May 12, 2018 2:08 am #409387

XSI wrote:
Grazyn wrote:
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
XSI wrote:Wasnt there a number out saying there's more open jobs in Trumpland than unemployment?

Turns out, you can't just directly say 1 unemployed person = 1 person that can go take that job


Well there will be significantly more open jobs when ICE and the courts haul ass to shut down migrant havens for implicitly committing felonies in harboring illegals and get that wall built to stop the bulk and let them push more resources to stopping the more convert ways in.

Like honestly, the moment Trump announced a wall literally everyone ragged on the fact that 'Lmao you can just dig under and fly over it' well with more disposable resources because you blocked the obvious entry point for most unprepared civilians you can focus on traffickers setting up illegal migrant route options and shutting down existing routes.

If what XSI is saying is true it means that illegals aren't already taking your jobs, it's just that young Americans don't want to do landscaping and latrine cleaning. Deporting people who do that won't magically make Americans take those jobs


Amusing how the free market is a great ideal for rich people, until you cut it off from free migration so they'll have to make the choice between good wages and the job plainly not getting done.
It's not just landscaping and cleaning jobs either, think 12 hour shifts in meat processing plants for minimum wage with no benefits, truck driving with 4 or 5 hours of sleep per day or you won't make your quota, and so on.

And without illegals who have no choice but to accept any job just to get some money, they'll have to improve the job's circumstances or raise wages to make people consider it worthwhile.
Oil workers get paid a lot to work long hours in harsh conditions, and nobody is complaining about the lack of people willing to do that. Yet cutting up cows in a dark factory with no airflow and too much heat is done for practically nothing because Pablo is given the choice of taking the job or the boss reporting him and having him deported as example for the rest.

It will of course take a bit of time as they'll stubbornly demand to bring in 'skilled' migrant workers instead of raising wages or improving conditions, and they'll keep everything but the most essential jobs open with nobody stupid enough to take them, but eventually they will have to understand that the slave-class they've come to rely on is gone and then they will adjust accordingly

> implying they won't just use "totally-not-slavery" prison labour for it after busting people on trumped-up charges

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Sat May 12, 2018 2:13 am #409390

Use union labor instead
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 2:16 am #409392

>Prisoners are modern day slaves

Hot take
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Sat May 12, 2018 3:54 am #409400

When slavery was finally banned they kept a loophole you can force people to labor if you charged them with a crime

Then they started making laws for the sole purpose of arresting black people and putting them on detention farms

Learn some history you fat fuck
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 5:11 am #409408

Yeah back in the Jim Crow era, but those laws have long since been removed and these days the overwhelming majority of people in jail were put there for, y'know, doing something wrong.
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"Clowns are different you can't trust those shifty fucks you never know what they're doing or if they're willing to eat a dayban for some cheap yuks."
-Not-Dorsidarf

"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards

"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem

"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321

"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen

"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC

"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare

"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare

"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn

">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack

"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo

"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare

"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
-lntigracy

"Wew. Congrats. It's been actual years since anyone tried to make fun of me for being divorced. You caught me, I'm tilted. Here is your trophy."
-Timbrewolf

"I prefer my coffees to run dry too *snorts a line of maxwell house*"
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"You don't have an evil bone in your body, unless togopal comes for a sleepover"
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">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Grazyn » Sat May 12, 2018 5:57 am #409426

Weed has historically been used to arrest black people up to the 90s

I know this and I ain't even american

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 6:02 am #409429

Weed is an illegal substance (except where it isn't). If you don't wanna get jailed for possession don't possess it in the first place.
Spoiler:
"Clowns are different you can't trust those shifty fucks you never know what they're doing or if they're willing to eat a dayban for some cheap yuks."
-Not-Dorsidarf

"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards

"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem

"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321

"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen

"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC

"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare

"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare

"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn

">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack

"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo

"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare

"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
-lntigracy

"Wew. Congrats. It's been actual years since anyone tried to make fun of me for being divorced. You caught me, I'm tilted. Here is your trophy."
-Timbrewolf

"I prefer my coffees to run dry too *snorts a line of maxwell house*"
-Super Aggro Crag

"You don't have an evil bone in your body, unless togopal comes for a sleepover"
-Bluespace

">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
-Anonmare

"Then why did you get that boob job?"
-DrPillzRedux

"You take that back you colonial mongrel"
-Docprofsmith

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Takeguru » Sat May 12, 2018 6:03 am #409430

On that point though

Maybe prisoners should be used as dumb labor

Not high-sec prisoners but the ones that didn't stab 20 babies
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 6:05 am #409431

They already are. There's all sorts of prison labor gigs all over the place, it teaches them useful skills and makes use of them. A win-win for all involved. There used to be one up the road a ways that my dad used to work at as a supervisor.
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"Clowns are different you can't trust those shifty fucks you never know what they're doing or if they're willing to eat a dayban for some cheap yuks."
-Not-Dorsidarf

"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards

"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem

"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321

"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen

"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC

"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare

"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare

"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn

">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack

"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo

"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare

"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
-lntigracy

"Wew. Congrats. It's been actual years since anyone tried to make fun of me for being divorced. You caught me, I'm tilted. Here is your trophy."
-Timbrewolf

"I prefer my coffees to run dry too *snorts a line of maxwell house*"
-Super Aggro Crag

"You don't have an evil bone in your body, unless togopal comes for a sleepover"
-Bluespace

">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
-Anonmare

"Then why did you get that boob job?"
-DrPillzRedux

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Grazyn » Sat May 12, 2018 6:06 am #409432

ShadowDimentio wrote:Weed is an illegal substance (except where it isn't). If you don't wanna get jailed for possession don't possess it in the first place.

They cracked down on it hard because they knew it was mainly used by blacks and lefties, despite other drugs being much worse for society compared to literally harmless weed

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 6:09 am #409433

Maybe so, but the law is the law and you're expected to follow it even if it is dumb. They knew what they were buying was illegal and if they got caught they'd be in trouble.
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Takeguru » Sat May 12, 2018 6:11 am #409434

Let's tie welfare into working too

Give them a few trash bags and the classic spike pole and send them down a few streets to pick up garbage for money

Maybe if welfare wasn't free they'd be incentivized to get off it and find a real job

Real problem in my area
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Grazyn » Sat May 12, 2018 6:59 am #409453

ShadowDimentio wrote:Maybe so, but the law is the law and you're expected to follow it even if it is dumb. They knew what they were buying was illegal and if they got caught they'd be in trouble.

And how is that different from Jim Crow laws? I was just arguing that laws designed to screw blacks and undesirables and fill up jails went on way past the sixties. Three-strikes laws are even worse as far as jail-filling is concerned.

Then there's the whole school-to-prison pipeline but that's another issue

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 7:14 am #409459

It's different to Jim Crow laws because they apply to everyone instead of just blacks. And the three strike laws are even easier to avoid, just don't break the same law three times.
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby XSI » Sat May 12, 2018 7:20 am #409461

ShadowDimentio wrote:Yeah back in the Jim Crow era, but those laws have long since been removed and these days the overwhelming majority of people in jail were put there for, y'know, doing something wrong.


Since the Bush presidency(Junior, the latest bush), laws do not necessarily need to be public because something something national security. Don't want to get arrested over a law you didn't know existed? Shouldn't have broken that law.
I wouldn't trust the law enforcement or government in the US to make reasonable laws.

And since the prison system is privatized, I wouldn't trust them to rehabilitate prisoners or keep them in good conditions either. Every business wants return customers, and they want to spend as little as possible to earn as much as possible.
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 7:22 am #409462

I don't approve of that but that's very obviously not being used by the standard police force because they can't enforce laws they don't know exist. Further pretty much all government hearings for pretty much anything are open to the public. You're not likely to get blindsided by a law and disappeared by the government unless you're an enemy to the state or something terrible. Same story with the prison system, there are national and international rules and standards the prisons have to follow. The "punish not rehabilitate" thing is certainly possible and probably real, but it's largely ideology on which is better.
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Grazyn » Sat May 12, 2018 7:27 am #409468

ShadowDimentio wrote:It's different to Jim Crow laws because they apply to everyone instead of just blacks. And the three strike laws are even easier to avoid, just don't break the same law three times.


Yes, they realized that laws specifically applying to blacks wouldn't be allowed but laws that would apply to everyone while mostly affecting blacks and undesirables would work. Just like voting laws, "we can't deny blacks the right to vote so let's just make laws that make it harder for them to vote with loopholes to let whites go unscathed"

And as far as three-strikes laws are concerned, what I mean is that you can't make the harshest possible punishment for minor crimes (albeit repeated, but it's not like the prison system makes it easier to go back to a honest life, quite the opposite) and then complain that jails are filled up to the brim

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ShadowDimentio » Sat May 12, 2018 7:37 am #409469

Yes that is an accurate description of Jim Crow laws, but drug criminalization isn't that. It's a law change that effected EVERYONE, not JUST blacks, and last time I checked you can still definitely go to jail for weed possession even if you're white. That being the case, I have no issue with the law.

And as for stuffed prisons, eh I'm not that worked up about it. Barring psychological issues, they all knew what they were doing and that it was illegal. They made their bed so now they have to lie in it, as it were.
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby leibniz » Sat May 12, 2018 8:23 am #409475

leave it to secborg players to defend legislations that were made to increase profit for the private prison industry and not question how its allowed to fuck up someone's life over a mostly harmless drug
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Grazyn » Sat May 12, 2018 8:30 am #409477

I don't know how the law is state by state but I was under the impression that drug laws for weed (or their enforcement at the very least) got way less harsh after the 80s (talking about possession not dealing)

Also, isn't it nice to see conservatives say things like "the government knows best, gotta trust the government son, you must obey every law no matter how dumb or unfair it is without question" as long as it's only affecting minorities, undesirables and degenerates but as soon as the government raises a hand in their direction they're all "don't tread on me" "taxation is theft" "#Wyatt'sTorch" "come and get 'em" and so on

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ColonicAcid » Sat May 12, 2018 10:40 am #409496

ShadowDimentio wrote:Yes that is an accurate description of Jim Crow laws, but drug criminalization isn't that. It's a law change that effected EVERYONE, not JUST blacks, and last time I checked you can still definitely go to jail for weed possession even if you're white. That being the case, I have no issue with the law.

And as for stuffed prisons, eh I'm not that worked up about it. Barring psychological issues, they all knew what they were doing and that it was illegal. They made their bed so now they have to lie in it, as it were.

18th century thoughts.

Its also wrong.

>lets make majority of peoples every day lives absolutely jam packed with potentiality mentally incendiary shit like student loans, credit score and inability to get a mortgage and when they turn to drugs as any human in their situation can we'll clap them in chains and make them work for profit.


Ah yes getting 5 years for intent to distrubute weed when in reality all you had was an o truly sounds like good policing.

And if you're really going to non-ironically say that the drug laws aren't a racially motivated farce then you're either straight up ignorant or you're simply naive and have drank way too much of then kool aid.

Before you say stupid shit that grannies with no knowledge of the subject also say like "hur hur it's their choice they knew the risks" go educate yourself on the modern thought of addiction... or if you can't do that stop posting about it, you're doing more harm than good.
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby PKPenguin321 » Sat May 12, 2018 11:16 am #409500

based shadowdimentio baiting the weedfags
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ColonicAcid » Sat May 12, 2018 12:01 pm #409503

got so angry at shadows post i had to smoke a fat bong so i could induce a coma
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Sometinyprick » Sat May 12, 2018 12:48 pm #409509

ShadowDimentio wrote:And as for stuffed prisons, eh I'm not that worked up about it. Barring psychological issues, they all knew what they were doing and that it was illegal. They made their bed so now they have to lie in it, as it were.

Then you are a moron?
The US imprisons more people for stupid pointless shit that any other country in the world, your prisons are objectively some of the worst if not the worst in the developed world and because the environment in your prisons are so fucking awful it's very easy for people to become hardened criminals or develop shitty violent habits. But uh I guess if they broke the law!!!! they need to be punished to the HIGHEST EXTENT POSSIBLE
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Postby Sometinyprick » Sat May 12, 2018 12:56 pm #409514

CosmicScientist wrote:You have a boopery dog avatar.

German shepherds are good boys, except when they nearly rip up the fucking floorboards
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby onleavedontatme » Sat May 12, 2018 1:45 pm #409515

"The law is the law" is the most brain dead worthless thing you can add to a conversation about whether a law or punishment is just

No shit its the fucking law that is why we are talking about it.

Do you think Dankula deserved half a year in prison for his pug video? The law is the law after all!

There used to be one up the road a ways that my dad used to work at as a supervisor.


Alright I guess that explains a lot.

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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ColonicAcid » Sat May 12, 2018 2:13 pm #409517

i hope shadow breaks a law and then gets a nice cold dish of irony
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby DemonFiren » Sat May 12, 2018 2:54 pm #409527

legal positivism is a wonderful thing to make fun of
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby ColonicAcid » Sat May 12, 2018 3:36 pm #409535

We should all become robotos and then our productivity will go up
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Postby DemonFiren » Sat May 12, 2018 3:41 pm #409536

CosmicScientist wrote:This shed is road legal and can reach 101mph/163kph:
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It apparently cost just over £13,000 in parts including its original parts.

>try to drive it on german roads
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Malkevin » Sat May 12, 2018 4:02 pm #409544

leibniz wrote:leave it to secborg players to defend legislations that were made to increase profit for the private prison industry and not question how its allowed to fuck up someone's life over a mostly harmless drug

>Mostly Harmless
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby The Clowns Pocket » Sat May 12, 2018 4:09 pm #409545

Boy the [LATEST THING] that Donald Trump did today makes me REALLY ANGRY! Impeach the [RUSSIAN] [NAZI] PRESIDENT!
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Re: 2k18 /pol/

Postby Grazyn » Sat May 12, 2018 4:18 pm #409547

Malkevin wrote:
leibniz wrote:leave it to secborg players to defend legislations that were made to increase profit for the private prison industry and not question how its allowed to fuck up someone's life over a mostly harmless drug

>Mostly Harmless

Did you even read the article? It says they don't know if it affects development in kids and the test will take 10 years. It goes without saying that legal age for cigarettes it's already 18 and it would be the same for weed.

Also I dont smoke weed

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