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XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue May 29, 2018 8:52 pm #413899

Bottom post of the previous page:

Thank you, that is reasonable

I still think the UK has huge issues with their legal system and corruption but at least this bit is consistent

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Tue May 29, 2018 9:31 pm #413906

What XSI said

While I disagree with the law, at least it's being used consistently

Rustledjimm · Tue May 29, 2018 11:46 pm

I'm curious, which law are you disagreeing with?

The fact that certain court cases cannot be reported on while they are ongoing to prevent them affecting linked court cases and ensuring justice is done properly?

Super Aggro Crag · Wed May 30, 2018 12:39 am

No justice

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Wed May 30, 2018 5:42 am #413967

"In the UK you are not allowed to record inside court. You cannot take pictures inside a court, even the artist drawings must be done from memory and not while court is in session."

That last part especially but whatever

Just mandate that it can't be released until the case is over or something

Rustledjimm · Wed May 30, 2018 10:23 am

I don't understand what's wrong with not being allowed to record inside the court? Journalists still attend etc. and are allowed to report on it afterwards but recordings are not allowed.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Wed May 30, 2018 1:52 pm #414033

I seriously doubt a commercial drone would be able to endanger a passenger jet, it would probably just vaporize upon impact.

that said, airplanes are serious business and if the authority says it's safer to have a clear area around the airport, just do what they say

Rustledjimm · Post by **Rustledjimm** » Wed May 30, 2018 2:03 pm #414036

Birds take out planes and they're a lot more squishy than drones.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Wed May 30, 2018 5:32 pm #414117

Rustledjimm wrote:Birds take out planes and they're a lot more squishy than drones.

not just 1 bird though, accidents happen when a plane goes through a flock of birds and they get sucked in the engines, would a single drone be enough to stop an engine?

I'm talking about accidents btw, if you're purposefully using a drone to mess with a plane I guess you could find a way

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed May 30, 2018 5:50 pm #414119

A single drone has a lot more hard bits to fuck up that engine than a few of the extra light bird bones

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed May 30, 2018 5:51 pm #414120

tell the drone not to interfere

Rustledjimm · Post by **Rustledjimm** » Wed May 30, 2018 7:14 pm #414134

A bird is made of meat and light bones. A drone is made of plastic and metal. The former is far more malleable than the latter. I don't have high hopes for an engine vs drone situation and if there is even the slightest risk to flight safety it should be eliminated

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:30 pm #414145

It's kinda like those extreme fines for trying to shine laser pens at helicopters and airplanes

It seems like such a simple thing but you can seriously fuck up the pilot with that and lead to a crash. Don't do it.

Thu May 31, 2018 10:55 am

It's also incredibly difficult to catch people doing it which is why it's such a problem. Unless your being a fucking idiot and using it from your home and you keep it afterwords.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Thu May 31, 2018 11:56 pm #414394

Update from Italy, the national populist coalition caved in to the President's demand to pick another guy for minister of finance, now their government has been greenlit and will be sworn in tomorrow. The original anti-EU pick is still in, will be Minister of European Relations or something instead.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:45 am #414408

Problem solved then
Though 'minister of european relations' for an anti-eu guy seems like a dumb idea at first, it sounds like a smart move to me because that way they'll actually have relations with european countries that don't depend entirely on the EU so you won't be fucked when the entire thing inevitably collapses

Speaking of the EU though, those idiots are trying to control everything again in the name of corporate overlords
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180 ... rnet.shtml
https://edri.org/eu-member-states-agree ... t-uploads/

"You know what would be a great idea? Lets put in an europe-wide internet filter that automatically detects if you upload anything copyrighted and then makes you pay for it!" - Corporate lobbyists
Silly americans told me to message my "EU-senator", but jokes on them, I never got a choice in that and the EU is an illegitimate corporate-owned construct that is not in any way under control of the people. No "EU senators" exist, they're unelected bureaucrats who don't even need to show up to their job to get paid and have no connection to the people living in Europe whatsoever

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:45 am #414480

Nope

The way EU politicians work is that they're technically elected, by people that were elected by politicians who were elected by other politicians who were elected by national politicians even if those national politicians did not get elected in their own country or anywhere else
In short, at no point do they have any EU elections or anything, and considering that they do not have any real interaction with the common people, combined with the fact that they're surrounded by lobbyists and generally just wealthy people, they don't exactly have much of an investment in issues that matter to regular people, and a very skewed view of how the world is and how their approval ratings are- After all, anti-EU sentiment is strongly discouraged and considered 'bad form' inside their own organisational structure

And of course, this may all be wrong- This is how I got it explained by my (pro-eu) teacher back in school. These things are intentionally made difficult to find out

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:15 am #414485

XSI wrote:Problem solved then
Though 'minister of european relations' for an anti-eu guy seems like a dumb idea at first, it sounds like a smart move to me because that way they'll actually have relations with european countries that don't depend entirely on the EU so you won't be fucked when the entire thing inevitably collapses

They explained their reasoning, they don't want to leave the EU or Euro but they wanted an anti-EU guy so that he could blackmail the EU with threats of Italexit if they don't give us what we want (a better treatment in the Eurozone and less pressure on our debts). Some say this is just a cover story and they really want to leave the EU, and that's why the President initially vetoed him. They replied that the guy is a lifeboat, you don't want the boat to sink but you'd be stupid to not carry a lifeboat.

As for the rest, we do have EU elections (next year there's one) for the EU parliament but you don't get a say on the candidates, you just vote for the party

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:25 am #414487

The euro was a mistake

Can't have a unified currency without unified financial policy
And can't have a unified financial policy without unified people
And the EU does not unify anything except their own ideals

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:13 pm #414527

It's not looking good.

Minister of health is an anti-vaxxer who wants to revoke a law passed last year that made vaccinations mandatory to attend grade school.
Minister of family is a rabid ultra-catholic antiabortionist who is on record attacking gays and idolizes Russia.
Another minister hates the South (that was to be expected, being Lega what it is)
Then we have the aforementioned anti-EU minister of EU relations.

all in all, a government package in line of what was expected from a national populist government, it just feels... eerie

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:25 pm #414529

See, I like the whole nationalist thing, but why does it always seem to come packaged with idiots like anti-vaccines and ultra-religious nutjobs?
Want me to send over some popcorn?

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:29 pm #414536

The anti-vaccine thing is an old problem with the 5 stars, they're basically conspiratard indigo adults who want to save their crystal children from the poisons of Evil Pharma. They have a massive astroturf propaganda machine on social networks which initially took roots among the radical socialists (who had no other party to represent them) but evolved to encompass a varied population, from stay-at-home moms to the unemployed and the generic "angry at the government" citizen. The one thing they have in common is ignorance and the ability to believe with unbreakable faith in anything they read on facebook.

Lega is an old secessionist-turned-nationalist, burn-the-gypsies far-right party which managed to syphon the votes of the alt-rightosphere including neo-Crusaders for a Christian Europe and bright-eyed neofascists.

Their alliance is the most frightening thing I've ever seen in this country's politics

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:01 pm #414552

So I heard Slovenia is having an election on sunday
https://www.brecorder.com/2018/05/28/42 ... -election/

Slowhatnow?
This place.

And the right wing sorta(???) seems to be leading

Super Aggro Crag · Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:25 pm

XSI wrote:So I heard Slovenia is having an election on sunday
https://www.brecorder.com/2018/05/28/42 ... -election/

Slowhatnow?
This place.

And the right wing sorta(???) seems to be leading

How do you not know Slovenia? Errorage was a Slovene and I shit on him constantly for it.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:01 pm #414569

Melania too

Rustledjimm · Post by **Rustledjimm** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:20 pm #414595

To be fair we made Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary so I can't say much.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:38 pm #414672

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Rustledjimm · Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:06 pm

1. why was he seen in court so quickly

It isn't uncommon for contempt of court to be handled on the same day if the judge wishes. The cases regarding rapes taking so long to come to court and to be ruled upon? There's a shit tonne of evidence to go through, the case is far more complex than Tommy's contempt of court could ever be.

I haven't seen the livestream so I can't say if he was holding court in contempt or whether or not he was breaching the peace, but the they are incorrect regarding on-the-day sentencing.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:02 am #414722

Oh, I know the place. But I figured there's a lot of people who don't really care about the entire region, so clarifying felt like the right choice

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:23 pm #414826

Spoiler:

thanks Germany, just what we needed, more fuel for the natpopulist rethoric

Super Aggro Crag · Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:25 pm

Krauts love their snappy little propaganda pictures based on ethic stereotypes dont they

Super Aggro Crag · Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:25 pm

Krauts love their snappy little propaganda pictures based on ethic stereotypes dont they

Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:39 pm

Rustledjimm wrote:1. why was he seen in court so quickly

It isn't uncommon for contempt of court to be handled on the same day if the judge wishes. The cases regarding rapes taking so long to come to court and to be ruled upon? There's a shit tonne of evidence to go through, the case is far more complex than Tommy's contempt of court could ever be.

I haven't seen the livestream so I can't say if he was holding court in contempt or whether or not he was breaching the peace, but the they are incorrect regarding on-the-day sentencing.

The reason he was tried so quickly is very simple.

First of all he did not commit an offence, because he didn't commit an offence the rules on how he must be dealt with are different, firstly he can't be held at a police station for officers to gather and process evidence, instead he must be released as soon as the possibility that he would breach the peace subsides, if that's not possible then he must be tried as soon as possible on the first available court date, and since our dear Tommy was outside a court house when arrested that provision was made very quickly. This is all in accordance with UK law and the morons protesting his arrest are usually the ones who don't have a fucking clue about how the law works and instead are ranting off about how it was "unusual" or a "show trial". There is nothing unusual in how he was dealt with.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:22 pm #415145

>Doing flips with a gun AT ALL
The NRA, one of the most pro-gun organisations I know of, would call you a fucking moron who doesn't deserve a gun if you do that

Super Aggro Crag · Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:03 pm

Fbi dumb

FantasticFwoosh · Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:23 pm

London is its own state virtually, as much as im slowly starting to hate devolutionary governments interfering with politics we should probably move parliment further inland and contemporize it for the modern era. Birmingham is a good candidate for a large city but with no doubt there's others.

FantasticFwoosh · Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:41 pm

yee boii

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:43 pm #415326

mercia, 'merica, what's the difference again?

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:44 pm #415327

To be honest I hate it when people moan about being a nationality of a western country, especially if you're not in a poor demographic. There are a whole lotta people who would kill to be in their position and it reeks of self-importance to say you hate being a westerner

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:36 pm #415457

FantasticFwoosh wrote:London is its own state virtually

Just popping in to say that's not an English problem

That's literally everywhere

Using my state as an example, 90% of the state votes red but because NYC exists our entire state goes blue on those fun little things every few years where some new airhead gets told how to run the country by less airheady people that don't like you knowing they exist

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:45 pm #415459

Cities are a mistake

ShadowDimentio · Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:55 pm

It's ok after the nuclear apocalypse all the city scum will be nuked and the ruralfags will take over

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:57 pm #415465

/k/ has taught me how to live innawoods

lntigracy · Post by **lntigracy** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:11 am #415505

Anonmare wrote:/k/ has taught me how to live innawoods

You'll get eaten

IkeTG · Post by **IkeTG** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:27 am #415513

ShadowDimentio wrote:It's ok after the nuclear apocalypse all the city scum will be nuked and the ruralfags will take over

I live in a rural area and everyone here is dumb as shit, explain

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:45 am #415527

IkeTG wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:It's ok after the nuclear apocalypse all the city scum will be nuked and the ruralfags will take over
I live in a rural area and everyone here is dumb as shit, explain

I live in a town and the people are also dumb as shit, if not more than ruralfags.

lntigracy wrote:
Anonmare wrote:/k/ has taught me how to live innawoods
You'll get eaten

Lewd

IkeTG · Post by **IkeTG** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:53 am #415533

Anonmare wrote:
IkeTG wrote: I live in a rural area and everyone here is dumb as shit, explain
I live in a town and the people are also dumb as shit, if not more than ruralfags.

It might just be that my neighbors are rednecks, but they do some impressively stupid stuff. I remember the time the neighbors behind us were setting off homemade explosives on their lawns at 3 in the morning.

Rustledjimm · Post by **Rustledjimm** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:56 am #415534

Surprise, surprise the average human is pretty ignorant and as a collective we aren't experts at administering ourselves. There's a reason direct democracy isn't good.

IkeTG · Post by **IkeTG** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:58 am #415535

Rustledjimm wrote:Surprise, surprise the average human is pretty ignorant and as a collective we aren't experts at administering ourselves. There's a reason direct democracy isn't good.

A little faith in humanity goes a long way, friend.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:09 am #415537

I would have more faith in humanity if that faith wasn't absolutely shattered every single time I look at any sort of news
Or every other day if I just look out of my window

ShadowDimentio · Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:26 am

HUMANS SUCK LIFE SUCKS EVERYTHINGS SUCKS M-M-MORTYYYY (BELCH)