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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Helios » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:53 pm #563637

Stickymayhem wrote:
Helios wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is developping exactly like I expected it would
I'm pretty sure there is no right 'side' in this entire mess to begin with anyway, so that's pretty much how it's going to go

It started because a man with drugs in their possession and a record for violent crime died during an attempt at arresting him by a cop with a record of violence?
There is no winner here, everyone loses no matter what happens, all the riots and looting is just a continuation of everyone being violent shitters who would fit in fine with a grey jumpsuit


and already you're warping the story

he tried to pass a bad fucking 20 dollar cheque

he was killed over twenty fucking bucks

but yeah peaceful protest here's a valiant attempt at it in the face of a fascist fucking regime you bootlickers

I disagree.
He died because he resisted arrest multiple times after passing a bad 20$ bill, and he was pinned improperly by a police officer with a history of violence who was showing off to some guy filming him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGUAHBFmjk
at 2:10 we see Floyd immediately resisting arrest when the cops talk to him in his car, forcing the cops to drag him out of the car and again at 7:40, Floyd once again resists arrest when the cops try to get him into the cruiser.

Aaaand… once again the Main Stream media provides an _edited_ video instead of showing the entire bystander cellphone clip, where Floyd carries on a conversation with the cops and with a (sounds like) older Black guy on the sidewalk who is telling Floyd to stop resisting and just get in the police car.
https://youtu.be/FGCFHQ4yfdg?t=68

So here we go again, the Washington Post like the rest of the Mainstream Media, is propagandizing the event by only showing the incident from near the end when Floyd died, implying he dindu nuffin and the cops are evil racists who murdered! him for no reason at all…


I'm just gonna quote this in case you edit it after realising how much you're telling on yourself here

then again I doubt you have the self-awareness, or you're probably just proud of your views which isn't rare here

He absolutely was resisting, both at the beginning when the cops had to literally drag him out of his car to cuff him and once again, when the cops tried to put him in the police cruiser.
"“Well get up and get in the car, man. Get up and get in the car! I’ve been waiting the whole (unintelligible). Just get up and get in the car. They all gave you the opportunity to get in. You can win, you can’t win, man. You didn’t listen!”
And you can see the officer showing off to the guy recording him, as you hear Floyd say he can't breath.
XSI was right. There is no right 'side' in this entire mess. One guy is dead, and the other guy is in prison, both as a result of their actions.



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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Armhulen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:02 pm #563638

It's still the police officer's fault because, and this may shock you, the police aren't supposed to kill people for resisting arrest
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Helios » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:15 pm #563640

Armhulen wrote:It's still the police officer's fault because, and this may shock you, the police aren't supposed to kill people for resisting arrest

That doesn't make sense though. If his intent was to kill the guy, why would he have tried to arrest him and put him in the police car twice?
If Floyd didn't resist arrest twice, and listened to the non cop old guy telling him he couldn't win and to stop resisting and get in the car, Floyd wouldn't be dead.
If the Officer didn't use an improper hold and didn't show off to some guy recording, he wouldn't be in prison.
Both are necessary conditions for the situation we have in front of us, and given the consequences of those actions are death and prison, it seems fairly clear to me, both men were mistaken

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby PKPenguin321 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:20 pm #563643

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Timbrewolf » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:27 pm #563645

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Timbrewolf wrote:Ameriboo? I dont even know what to call this behavior.
Like being British is so miserable citizens are now role-playing as Americans.

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Armhulen wrote:It's still the police officer's fault because, and this may shock you, the police aren't supposed to kill people for resisting arrest


Yeah this, if your morality is allowing you to rationalize a police officer laying on a handcuffed guys' neck until dead like...check yourself.
Thgere is no number of strikes before the officer just gets to shrug off like "Damn he's being really hard to put in the back of my cruiser guess I just get to execute him now."
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:02 pm #563649

Stickymayhem wrote:literal appeal to hypocrisy and whataboutism

imagine being so omega lib that you desperately scramble to defend yourself the same way redhats do

they really did nail you guys with cuck didn't they no wonder you're getting four more years of Big Cheeto

Man, you think that's the cucked part? The only other significant choice is some creep who has alzheimer's.

There's no winning move here.

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Armhulen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:03 pm #563650

Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:literal appeal to hypocrisy and whataboutism

imagine being so omega lib that you desperately scramble to defend yourself the same way redhats do

they really did nail you guys with cuck didn't they no wonder you're getting four more years of Big Cheeto

Man, you think that's the cucked part? The only other significant choice is some creep who has alzheimer's.

There's no winning move here.

yeah both votes are insanely cucked but i guess i wouldn't dare give one of them 8 years in office on the history books
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Postby Super Aggro Crag » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:12 pm #563651

i would rather eat a cheeto than a dusty old yogurt cup
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Armhulen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:14 pm #563652

Super Aggro Crag wrote:i would rather eat a cheeto than a dusty old yogurt cup

i am so salty about the two candidates do not @ me
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Qustinnus » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 pm #563654

you guys wouldnt understand, us floyds have been oppressed for years.......cops dont go after black people they go after FLOYDS. barely any of us left, how many people do u know called floyd? exactly.

we're being genocided and you guys dont even care.

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:58 pm #563655

Qustinnus wrote:you guys wouldnt understand, us floyds have been oppressed for years.......cops dont go after black people they go after FLOYDS. barely any of us left, how many people do u know called floyd? exactly.

we're being genocided and you guys dont even care.

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Farquaar » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:18 pm #563657

Shadowflame909 wrote:snip

Sorry to hear that man. Hope your town can pull together after this and come out stronger than before.

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Shadowflame909 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:56 am #563679

Farquaar wrote:
Shadowflame909 wrote:snip

Sorry to hear that man. Hope your town can pull together after this and come out stronger than before.


Its good. My town was already pretty crappy in terms of togetherness and "scrounging up funds for literally anything"

Just one of the cons of having a cheaper place to live near LA.

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Stickymayhem » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:44 am #563684

Countdown to peaceful protestors getting shot by the army

I'm sure they'll be extremely careful with their use of force, its not like they've been indiscriminate so far.

Other than the journalists, innocent bystanders, people standing in their homes, that black senator, that black fbi agent, that pregnant black lady they stomped on and that old black guy that served the cops bbq for years being shot dead.

They were all protesting violently, clearly no other mutual traits.
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Postby Armhulen » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:06 am #563687

"President Trump spoke in the Rose Garden, calling for an end to “violence and destruction,” saying that he will deploy the US military if state governors do not reign in the protests that emerged in response to the death of George Floyd."

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Postby Stickymayhem » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:08 am #563688

>Define antifa as terrorists
>Define all opposition as antifa (existing republican legislation uses "left-wing" and "antifa" completely interchangeably)
>???
>Dictatorship
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Armhulen » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:12 am #563689

Stickymayhem wrote:>Define antifa as terrorists
>Define all opposition as antifa (existing republican legislation uses "left-wing" and "antifa" completely interchangeably)
>???
>Dictatorship

yeah i'm totally sure the world's biggest democracy is going to become a dictatorship

calm down, bringing the military into this is really not going to help them at all
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Stickymayhem » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:14 am #563690

Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:>Define antifa as terrorists
>Define all opposition as antifa (existing republican legislation uses "left-wing" and "antifa" completely interchangeably)
>???
>Dictatorship

yeah i'm totally sure the world's biggest democracy is going to become a dictatorship

calm down, bringing the military into this is really not going to help them at all


I'm not being serious about a total traditional dictatorship but plenty of people are going to die for having the wrong opinion very soon.
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Postby Actionb » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:29 am #563691

Seizing on the burning of the precinct building as the supposed opening salvo in a antifa uprising, the Trumpians were able to throw millions of Americans into a convulsion of fear at the threat of antifa terror. The official account stated:

The burning of the precinct was intended to be the signal for a bloody uprising and civil war. Large-scale pillaging in Washington was planned for as early as four o'clock in the morning on Tuesday. It has been determined that starting today throughout America acts of terrorism were to begin against prominent individuals, against private property, against the lives and safety of the peaceful population, and general civil war was to be unleashed...

Ludwig Grauert, the chief of the American state police, proposed an emergency presidential decree under Article 48 of the US Constitution, which gave the president the power to take any measure necessary to protect public safety without the consent of the Congress. It would have suspended most civil liberties under the pretence of preventing further antifa violence.

Just changed a few words from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree

And now this LIVE footage of a true ANTIFA ANARCHIST INSURRECTIONIST THUG:

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Postby oranges » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:06 am #563692

this thread is one big pile of bait

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Postby carshalash » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:02 am #563695

Sure would have been nice if anyone cared when my country pointed out how shitty minneapolis is as a city years ago.

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Postby oranges » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:09 am #563702

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Postby DrPillzRedux » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:26 am #563705

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Postby BeeSting12 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:01 am #563715

the videos of the protests/riots are kinda crazy i saw one earlier of a cop pulling down a (nonviolent/peaceful) black guy's mask and pepperspraying him in the face. my city has an 8pm curfew as if covid19 restrictions didnt suck enough, hopefully the actual rioters quit it.

also they delayed cod season 4 cuz of protests because ??? what if activision banned the 12 year olds that scream NIGGER when i kill them instead of delaying season 4?
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Postby Lumbermancer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:14 am #563728

have you seen the video of black mob attacking some random dude, and they beat him up, he falls down and his hip joint dislocates and he does a split
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Postby terranaut » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:48 am #563733

Stickymayhem wrote:I'm not being serious about a total traditional dictatorship but plenty of people are going to die for having the wrong opinion very soon.

It's not like it's only the cops shooting at the protestors, plenty of cops and just unrelated people have died for no reason.

Look at this video for example. One person died, a family ruined and a sister vowing vengeance and death to those who did it. Her reaction is understandable but absolutely not helpful for anybody, and she never should have been in this situation in the first place. If you are violently protesting or encouraging people to be violent then you're a part of the problem, no matter which team you're on.
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Postby MrStonedOne » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:01 pm #563735

I agree with sticky?

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Postby Timbrewolf » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:07 pm #563736

I would love to see anyone in this thread square up and try to fight a single police officer vs. just talking about how it's the right thing to do right now.
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Postby MrStonedOne » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:10 pm #563737

Timbrewolf wrote:I would love to see anyone in this thread square up and try to fight a single police officer vs. just talking about how it's the right thing to do right now.


Imagine being this close to understanding the problem, but still being so far away from understanding the problem.
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Postby terranaut » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:12 pm #563738

He has a talent for that.
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Postby Timbrewolf » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:17 pm #563739

MrStonedOne wrote:
Timbrewolf wrote:I would love to see anyone in this thread square up and try to fight a single police officer vs. just talking about how it's the right thing to do right now.


Imagine being this close to understanding the problem, but still being so far away from understanding the problem.



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Postby MrStonedOne » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:51 pm #563741

The day citizens feel comfortable intervening the next time they see cops kneeling on a guys neck is the day this issue will be solved. That can't happen as long as cops are indistinguishable from soldiers only without any of the rules of engagement and war crime training.

Like, the issue is this guy shouldn't have died, the crowd gathering around should have intervened by throwing the officer off of him, the officer should have been charged with assault, and none of the interveners charged or even arrested.

That is the ideal solution to bad cops.
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Postby XivilaiAnaxes » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:58 pm #563742

Trump is not even remotely close to smart enough to pull off a Caesar - anyone that legitimately thinks he's going to turn burgerland into a dictatorship is fooling themselves.

Burger cops have no standards to be held to which is the problem. One of them fucks up? Ohohoho it's paid vacation.

I've seen too many videos of overweight cops and it's just bizarre - half of them aren't remotely healthy enough for the job and the other half are psychopaths who shouldn't be anywhere near firearms.
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Postby Super Aggro Crag » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:15 pm #563743

If the Democrats pushing for this insurrection actually gave a fuck about black people and police reform they would have done something in the 8 years we had race riots under Obama while he twiddled Michelle's clitdick on Martha's Vinyard
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Postby XivilaiAnaxes » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:16 pm #563744

Super Aggro Crag wrote:If the Democrats pushing for this insurrection actually gave a fuck about black people and police reform they would have done something in the 8 years we had race riots under Obama while he twiddled Michelle's clitdick on Martha's Vinyard

Yes but helping black people doesn't help keep a healthy democratic voting base now, does it?
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Postby bobbahbrown » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:34 pm #563763

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Stickymayhem » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:28 pm #563770

Timbrewolf wrote:I would love to see anyone in this thread square up and try to fight a single police officer vs. just talking about how it's the right thing to do right now.


I've had the shit kicked out of me by cops twice while protesting and I've been arrested once too

You're damn right I couldn't fight them, they're geared up, trained to beat the shit out of me and I go to prison even if I do win

it doesn't make my stance any more or less valid but as per usual you're a pussy trying to feel better about yourself by assuming everyone else is as hollow and cucked as you are
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Stickymayhem » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:29 pm #563772

MrStonedOne wrote:The day citizens feel comfortable intervening the next time they see cops kneeling on a guys neck is the day this issue will be solved. That can't happen as long as cops are indistinguishable from soldiers only without any of the rules of engagement and war crime training.

Like, the issue is this guy shouldn't have died, the crowd gathering around should have intervened by throwing the officer off of him, the officer should have been charged with assault, and none of the interveners charged or even arrested.

That is the ideal solution to bad cops.


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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Timbrewolf » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:46 pm #563774

Stickymayhem wrote:I've had the shit kicked out of me by cops twice while protesting and I've been arrested once too


>getting in fights with UK cops over US justice system abuses


Please you cant really be this retarded

You're damn right I couldn't fight them, they're geared up, trained to beat the shit out of me and I go to prison even if I do win

it doesn't make my stance any more or less valid but as per usual you're a pussy trying to feel better about yourself by assuming everyone else is as hollow and cucked as you are


It kinda does? I mean you're not involved with the issue we're talking about aside from your delusional Freaboo thing but humoring you for a minute; Saying the solution is to fight this power to right the wrong while also establishing/admitting that you cant hope to actually fight against them kinda doooooes prove your full of shit tho?

I wish someone actually could bonk you over the head and bring back the pre-car accident sticky. He was a fucking idiot too but much more fun to be around.
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby wesoda25 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:47 pm #563775

I’m envious of your conviction

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:53 pm #563776

Stickymayhem wrote:
Timbrewolf wrote:I would love to see anyone in this thread square up and try to fight a single police officer vs. just talking about how it's the right thing to do right now.


I've had the shit kicked out of me by cops twice while protesting and I've been arrested once too

You're damn right I couldn't fight them, they're geared up, trained to beat the shit out of me and I go to prison even if I do win

it doesn't make my stance any more or less valid but as per usual you're a pussy trying to feel better about yourself by assuming everyone else is as hollow and cucked as you are

Maybe if you ate a chicken breast once in a while you wouldn't be such a frail little fuck that you got rolled by a fucking Bobby, you clown
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Timbrewolf » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:57 pm #563777

Rather than try to dismantle the machine of oppression lets just jam our fucking arm directly into the gears

Again thanks to social media outcry and reporting criminal charges were already being sought in this case before anyone ran to the streets to collect police punches

All you should need to know about the affects violence in protests has on the situation is that right now there are white nationalist groups infiltrating the movement in person and on social media specifically to start/encourage violence
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby zxaber » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:16 pm #563780

Being prepared and willing to stand against the corrupt elements of the police force isn't the same as burning random cars in the streets and destroying businesses in the community. The cops don't really care if you hit yourself repeatedly, after all, except possibly as an excuse to join in on hitting you.
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Timbrewolf » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:05 pm #563788

Also calling this thread the BLM Riots is really disingenuous when the majority of protestors are peacefully demonstrating and a surprising amount of them are even obeying curfew.

Floyd's family has even asked that people refrain from violence.
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Super Aggro Crag » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:15 pm #563800

Timbrewolf wrote:Also calling this thread the BLM Riots is really disingenuous when the majority of protestors are peacefully demonstrating and a surprising amount of them are even obeying curfew.

Floyd's family has even asked that people refrain from violence.

based floyd's family
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Shadowflame909 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:53 pm #563805

Timbrewolf wrote:Also calling this thread the BLM Riots is really disingenuous when the majority of protestors are peacefully demonstrating and a surprising amount of them are even obeying curfew.

Floyd's family has even asked that people refrain from violence.


It was just the easiest way to group all the separate protests and riots together.

Also, eh, I feel like the riots are whats making this stay on peoples minds more. We've had protests before, but they've gone on deaf ears.

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Stickymayhem » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:36 pm #563810

Timbrewolf wrote:

>getting in fights with UK cops over US justice system abuses


Please you cant really be this retarded


nothing to do with your dumb fucking country
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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Qustinnus » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:18 pm #563840

Stickymayhem wrote:
Timbrewolf wrote:I would love to see anyone in this thread square up and try to fight a single police officer vs. just talking about how it's the right thing to do right now.


I've had the shit kicked out of me by cops twice while protesting and I've been arrested once too

You're damn right I couldn't fight them, they're geared up, trained to beat the shit out of me and I go to prison even if I do win

it doesn't make my stance any more or less valid but as per usual you're a pussy trying to feel better about yourself by assuming everyone else is as hollow and cucked as you are


maybe if u ate meat u'd be able to win a fight

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Re: Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

Postby Armhulen » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:32 pm #563848

this is me when a person of color walks by :)
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