Politics Thread: BLM Riots edition

[Stickymayhem]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Also an unarmed black man tackled the shooter and stopped him continuing to open up on the fucking crowd of protestors getting shot in the process

That's a fucking chad

[XivilaiAnaxes]

"Guy getting pulled out of a car is probably going to use a gun to not die"

"BUT HES KKK"

"Does being in the kkk mean he's not going to use a gun to not die?"

"HAHA KKK sympathiser I fucking got you"

You're honestly retarded.

[Grazyn]

Considering the alt-right is also pushing the argument "Floyd was no angel, he was a bank robber" I don't see the problem in stressing the fact the guy was a nazi

[XivilaiAnaxes]

Considering the alt-right is also pushing the argument "Floyd was no angel, he was a bank robber" I don't see the problem in stressing the fact the guy was a nazi

Does it make you a criminal sympathiser if you say maybe cops shouldn't execute citizens due to their embarrassing lack of professional standards? Obviously not.

[Grazyn]

To clarify, the glock guy and the kkk leader are not the same person. Glock guy happened in Seattle, the self-proclaimed Klan leader tried to run through protesters in Richmond in a separate incident https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52973398
Doesn't look like the second guy was even beaten. There's benefit of the doubt for the glock guy, maybe he just took a wrong turn, not so much for the second incident. If anything, it shows that protesters have reasons to be wary of drivers suddenly appearing to drive towards them.

Also it seems you're missing Sticky's original point, the issue isn't "lol kkk leader good thing they beat him up" but the fact he shot a guy (in self defense or kill baiting, doesn't matter), then passed through the crowd relatively unscathed and calmy turned himself over to the police. Kinda odd how cops suddenly became hyper competent and able to read a confusing situation involving an armed guy shooting unarmed people.

[Stickymayhem]

He also drove in with a double taped mag on the passenger seat like he was prepped for a mass shooting, and his brother is a cop at the precinct he was gently handed into.

[XivilaiAnaxes]

Oh if the guy straight up hunted them down with his car 100% throw him up on a cross and call it a day, but it should be pretty obvious whether or not the guy is trying to accelerate into a crowd.

Also, cops are probably going to be more mentally "in the zone" to deal with incidents when the whole day has been one giant incident for them to deal with. The problem is American cops are a poorly disciplined, poorly organised rabble with little to no standards enforced on them. Soldiers tend to do a much better job as they are of a higher quality.

Possibly they could segment the force into a part that does most of the regular policing (and as a result is conditioned to avoid conflict at all costs) and a part that does the "kick door blood for the blood god" work, but I'm not sure if that would even work.

[Stickymayhem]

Oh if the guy straight up hunted them down with his car 100% throw him up on a cross and call it a day, but it should be pretty obvious whether or not the guy is trying to accelerate into a crowd.

Also, cops are probably going to be more mentally "in the zone" to deal with incidents when the whole day has been one giant incident for them to deal with. The problem is American cops are a poorly disciplined, poorly organised rabble with little to no standards enforced on them. Soldiers tend to do a much better job as they are of a higher quality.

Possibly they could segment the force into a part that does most of the regular policing (and as a result is conditioned to avoid conflict at all costs) and a part that does the "kick door blood for the blood god" work, but I'm not sure if that would even work.

That would make sense if their behaviour was consistent but they went from violently beating the shit out of people and tackling them to quietly and calmly arresting a gunman who had repeatedly fired into a crowd hitting multiple people.

Why the discrepancy? His brother is in the fucking PD.

He also despite having "no idea" about the protests, immediately walked over the the police line as if he knew where it was. The police have historically used violent fascists to assist in terrorizing civil rights protests. I doubt much has changed, it's not like any legislation came in to prevent it

[Actionb]

Police Academy Training
A high school diploma/GED and police officer training are enough to apply for jobs in many law enforcement agencies. Think of the police academy as police officer school. The standard program is 840 hours, or 21 weeks, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

^ hilarious

Now add:

• qualified immunity making it extremly difficult to convict police officers
• civil forfeiture to rake in money for the department/city
• a fines system to generate revenue that can go out of control for the poor
• far-right wing subversion
• militarization to the point that even small towns have armored trucks or APCs
• the blue wall of silence
• armored street warrior training
• police unions that are like "Reforms? NUH-UH!"
• oh and sheriffs are still a thing

I'm suprised the US kept together for this long.

[Super Aggro Crag]

Yeah small towns having MRAPs is goofy, thats from that department of defense thing where police departments can request military surplus cuz of all the extra shit built by the military industrial complex during the war on terror

[Stickymayhem]

Yeah small towns having MRAPs is goofy, thats from that department of defense thing where police departments can request military surplus cuz of all the extra shit built by the military industrial complex during the war on terror

honestly if you took a minute you'd probably reconcile your various bizarre takes into a reasonable worldview because the mad shit and reasonable shit you spit out can't really co-exist under any kind of scrutiny

[Stickymayhem]

Police Academy Training
A high school diploma/GED and police officer training are enough to apply for jobs in many law enforcement agencies. Think of the police academy as police officer school. The standard program is 840 hours, or 21 weeks, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

^ hilarious

Now add:

• qualified immunity making it extremly difficult to convict police officers
• civil forfeiture to rake in money for the department/city
• a fines system to generate revenue that can go out of control for the poor
• far-right wing subversion
• militarization to the point that even small towns have armored trucks or APCs
• the blue wall of silence
• armored street warrior training
• police unions that are like "Reforms? NUH-UH!"
• oh and sheriffs are still a thing

I'm suprised the US kept together for this long.

bruh that's exactly how the US kept together for this long

black and socialist leaders in and around the US do not live very long

[Actionb]

Daniel said he dropped his hot dog and entered the car through the open window and grabbed the steering wheel.

...said he dropped his hot dog and...

...dropped his hot dog...

That guy who was shot is clearly the victim here.

Fernandez said he grabbed his gun which was unholstered and on the front seat.

https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2020 ... -his-life/

In court on Monday, Fernandez’s defense argued that he was on his way to work at a Nike store and got caught in the crowd after making a wrong turn. In the “chaos” he panicked, said attorney Jesse Dubow.

“I don't have any indication based on his statement that he did intentionally have a purpose other than what he told the officer — ‘that they tried to jack my car,’” Dubow said.

https://www.kuow.org/stories/gunman-at- ... nt-picture

So the loaded gun with an extended magazine + spare magazine tapped to it was just lying there on the passenger seat while he was on his way to a Nike store.
This might actually be legit.
Wait no, "WRONG TURN"? That doesn't look like making a wrong turn:
https://twitter.com/jseattle/status/1270198071423455232
Also, there was no reason to make a turn at all:
the protest happened on the intersection 11th & Pine
Nike Seattle is on the road he was already on (Pike)


This guy in a comment puts it really well:

I don’t know of one security agency that requires their employees to carry two extended mags jungle taped to each other like that.

Let alone just having said weapon sitting freely & loaded, in the passenger seat and not secured.

You need a license to carry a weapon in a car loaded like that btw. Not counting the license you need for being armed security.

Wa is an open carry state. But our laws state that unless you have a CPL. Your weapon cannot have a mag in the weapon and both must be stored in the car separately.

You don’t carry a weapon like that as it’s very unwieldy unless you intend to use it then & there.

RCW 9.41.050

“(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee’s person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.”

The fact that he had two extended mags jungle taped, loaded, and just sitting on his seat. As well as his sorry excuse of thinking he can get through a protest that has been going on at that location for a week straight.

Tells you everything you need to know. He had intent to harm others. But lost his nerve once he screwed up and tucked his tail to go have big bro save him.

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Wasn't there a guy in a (empty) tanker that got dragged out and beaten/robbed by half the mob after he turned a bend on the road they closed behind him 3 hours ahead of schedule and had difficulty breaking?

"Half the mob", yeah. The "other half" protected him until police came.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/3 ... rs-on-i35w
https://www.startribune.com/truck-drive ... 570925582/

There have been so many incidents of vehicles + protestors + "woopsie!", it's becoming a morbid meme.

[Super Aggro Crag]

Yeah small towns having MRAPs is goofy, thats from that department of defense thing where police departments can request military surplus cuz of all the extra shit built by the military industrial complex during the war on terror

honestly if you took a minute you'd probably reconcile your various bizarre takes into a reasonable worldview because the mad shit and reasonable shit you spit out can't really co-exist under any kind of scrutiny

Ok retard

If you think that its impossible to believe that police militarization and misconduct is a problem while simultaneously believing that attacking police and burning down black owned businesses and museums isn't the best way to address the problem of police militarization that's on you. Dont fucking respond to my posts anymore retard because you ignore 80 percent of them just so you can to pull a "gotcha" on the 5th one with your pea-brained 4th grade "uhm actually either everything is good or everything is bad" enlightened accelerationist black-and-white worldview. Go crack open a can of tuna and get some Omega-3.

Edit to avoid doubleposting: actionb i'll still respond to your posts because you're doing much better job of supporting your cause than the vegan. Ttyl

[Grazyn]

This guy in a comment puts it really well:

I don’t know of one security agency that requires their employees to carry two extended mags jungle taped to each other like that.

Let alone just having said weapon sitting freely & loaded, in the passenger seat and not secured.

You need a license to carry a weapon in a car loaded like that btw. Not counting the license you need for being armed security.

Wa is an open carry state. But our laws state that unless you have a CPL. Your weapon cannot have a mag in the weapon and both must be stored in the car separately.

You don’t carry a weapon like that as it’s very unwieldy unless you intend to use it then & there.

RCW 9.41.050

“(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee’s person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.”

The fact that he had two extended mags jungle taped, loaded, and just sitting on his seat. As well as his sorry excuse of thinking he can get through a protest that has been going on at that location for a week straight.

Tells you everything you need to know. He had intent to harm others. But lost his nerve once he screwed up and tucked his tail to go have big bro save him.

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Makes sense. To quote True Grit, "If it ain't loaded and cocked it don't shoot"
You'd want a loaded gun if you're gonna use it for self defense, and if you're not allowed to carry a loaded gun it means you shouldn't be using it for self defense, and that your license only allows you to transport it.

[Actionb]

imho good documentary that even applies to cities in Europe.
Social inequality, schools, segregation, crime, police, local politicians.
[youtube]2ErWlsnECTo[/youtube]

Thoughts? Memes? Criticism?
(pls no "EUUUGH VICE" - you're free to watch some Cucker Tarlson afterwards to cleanse your soul)

[Super Aggro Crag]

imho good documentary that even applies to cities in Europe.
Social inequality, schools, segregation, crime, police, local politicians.
[youtube]2ErWlsnECTo[/youtube]

Thoughts? Memes? Criticism?
(pls no "EUUUGH VICE" - you're free to watch some Cucker Tarlson afterwards to cleanse your soul)

I dont know why you would go euuugh vice, their shit is usually well researched

[Jack7D1]

[Super Aggro Crag]

I dislike vice, not because of their beliefs, the quality or accuracy of their videos. But because in situations where we have dire need for a calming voice. They instead rile people up even more for the sake of going viral. Riots are never a good sign and everything should be done to calm them down.

Hm thats a fair point gamer

[Helios]

So what's the deal with protected classes of people in America?
I hear the expression 'you have freedom of speech not freedom from consequences".
I also notice that you guys have freedom of religion, but it's illegal to fire someone for being Muslim, or refuse to hire them because they're Sikh.
So how exactly do those rights work?

[Super Aggro Crag]

You have the freedom to burn down half the city as an act of self expression, but if you gather in a group of 5 or more to discuss your constitutional right to free speech, you're going to get jumped from behind and bikelocked while the police sit around with their hands on their cock.

[XSI]

I like how Crag often shitposts and yet he makes more sense than most people in this thread

I like how this thread ended up only half a trainwreck also, exactly the amount of dumb stuff I expected but also some good stuff

[Qustinnus]

I'm not over the fact that everyone defending the cops in tg is thread is also a Kkk sympathiser like they made my job here so fucking easy it's unreal

you make it too easy to anger you.

[XivilaiAnaxes]

Vice is a lot better than Collegehumor, I'll give you that.

Btw who on earth is Cucker Tarlson?

[Super Aggro Crag]

Vice is a lot better than Collegehumor, I'll give you that.

Btw who on earth is Cucker Tarlson?

he swap the letters to make tucker carlson look funny

[XivilaiAnaxes]

Vice is a lot better than Collegehumor, I'll give you that.

Btw who on earth is Cucker Tarlson?

he swap the letters to make tucker carlson look funny

Then I update the question - who on earth is Tucker Carlson? Some brainlet burger conservative?

[XDTM]

I'm not over the fact that everyone defending the cops in tg is thread is also a Kkk sympathiser like they made my job here so fucking easy it's unreal

you make it too easy to anger you.

"he called me a kkk sympathizer after defending a kkk leader, he's so angry"

[Stickymayhem]

I'm not over the fact that everyone defending the cops in tg is thread is also a Kkk sympathiser like they made my job here so fucking easy it's unreal

you make it too easy to anger you.

"he called me a kkk sympathizer after defending a kkk leader, he's so angry"

I've clearly been owned

[Super Aggro Crag]

I'm not over the fact that everyone defending the cops in tg is thread is also a Kkk sympathiser like they made my job here so fucking easy it's unreal

you make it too easy to anger you.

"he called me a kkk sympathizer after defending a kkk leader, he's so angry"

The guy in Seattle who shot a guy in the arm is not the same person as the guy from Virginia who claimed to be a KKK leader. These two incidents are literally separated by an entire continent.

[IkeTG]

we WILL turn seattle into horny vatican and anyone trying to stop us will be brutalized efficiently and thoroughly

[Stickymayhem]

[youtube]sb9_qGOa9Go[/youtube]

[Qustinnus]

too long didn't watch

[Shadowflame909]

too long didn't watch

rude

[Stickymayhem]

too long didn't watch

sorry I know your attention is only held by burning crosses and confederate statues

[Qustinnus]

too long didn't watch

sorry I know your attention is only held by burning crosses and confederate statues

sorry i cant hear you over my enlightened centrism

[Armhulen]

Nobody watched but sticky i kinda liked the video

she was perhaps looking a little deeper than need be, there will always be bad egg opportunists

[Shadowflame909]

Nobody watched but sticky i kinda liked the video

she was perhaps looking a little deeper than need be, there will always be bad egg opportunists

nah she was kind of right

would have taken me a year to get a tv lmao

[Armhulen]

Nobody watched but sticky i kinda liked the video

she was perhaps looking a little deeper than need be, there will always be bad egg opportunists

nah she was kind of right

would have taken me a year to get a tv lmao

yeah im with you

[Gamarr]

Now for something I didn't see brought up. https://www.kmov.com/news/george-floyd- ... a7d47.html

Article highlights it fairly well but Fedex semi-truck gets diverted because protesters on the highway, of course. Only to get blocked on another street by more 'protesters' who swarm the truck when it stopped. Man freaks eventually, blares the horn and drives, and some man dies after being dragged.
Of course the family is trying to sue, saying 'he was peacefully protesting.'

Or this. Just a vid of a Chicago train being looted in-transit.
[youtube]hB6lIqYoamo[/youtube]

Now you're called a bootlicker for trying to separate violent agitators and looters from the protests 'That must be held Right Now'. There's little headway to be made either way until that's done, if ever. If police were really murderous like so claimed, these protesters would have all been shot by guns on the first few nights.
Except they're not and the protesters, and rioters, enjoy civil liberties given to them which they then exploit.

Spoiler:

Now thats some First World privilege.

This thread hopefully taught you a few things:

Spoiler:

Sticky isn't worth listening to- wait you should've known this by now.

[Actionb]

Now you're called a bootlicker for trying to separate violent agitators and looters from the protests

By whom?

[Stickymayhem]

jesus gamarr you're such a denthead no one should bother talking to you about anything

"a man was hit by a panicked truck driver during the protests this is clearly violent protesting" is the biggest fucking reach ive seen

when you care more about fucking tvs than black lives we know what side of history you're on

just leave this thread before your smooth brain spills out your ears and stains your kkk outfit

[Stickymayhem]

oh sorry almost forgot

you're a fucking bootlicker

[Armhulen]

oh sorry almost forgot

you're a fucking bootlicker

which ironically brings us to the first accusation of bootlicking in the thread

[Qustinnus]

oh sorry almost forgot

you're a fucking bootlicker

calling someone a bootlicker is cringe, because you lick boots too, just not the same as them.

also keep seething

[PKPenguin321]

jesus gamarr you're such a denthead no one should bother talking to you about anything

"a man was hit by a panicked truck driver during the protests this is clearly violent protesting" is the biggest fucking reach ive seen

when you care more about fucking tvs than black lives we know what side of history you're on

just leave this thread before your smooth brain spills out your ears and stains your kkk outfit

explain how exactly saying "you shouldn't commit theft" equates to not caring about black lives.
what are you implying about the relation between the act of theft and black lives?

[Super Aggro Crag]

i like how i called stinkymayhem out on confusing an event with one that happened across the entire continent and he just resorted to screaming KLANSMEN at the top of his lungs

i hope the 4th reich targets vegans

[Rustledjimm]

I wondered how tg was dealing with and discussing this rather complex situation which demands some nuanced discussion.

It's entirely as I suspected.

A little sad really.

Why did I even make this post?

[Super Aggro Crag]

I wondered how tg was dealing with and discussing this rather complex situation which demands some nuanced discussion.

It's entirely as I suspected.

A little sad really.

Why did I even make this post?

i dont know why

[Rustledjimm]

I wondered how tg was dealing with and discussing this rather complex situation which demands some nuanced discussion.

It's entirely as I suspected.

A little sad really.

Why did I even make this post?

i dont know why

Perhaps I have an innate need to post my opinions so you can all waste time reading them before discarding any thought of them.

[Super Aggro Crag]

You are a good guy

[Helios]

when you care more about fucking tvs than black lives we know what side of history you're on

Why do you assume that submission would have gotten him out of trouble?
When you say things like TVs are replaceable, do you apply the same standards to your own goods?
If I threw a brick through the window of your car, wouldn't that inconvenience you in some way?
We have seen these mobs destroy peoples vehicles all the time. People's businesses all the time. People's homes all the time

It's no coincidence the deadliest day in Chicago in terms of body count was during the George Floyd protests.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/chicago-sees- ... d=71150234
Do black lives not matter when it's other black men taking them?