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Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:29 pm #574556

Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby wesoda25 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:39 pm #574559

fuck you and your country

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Space Panda » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:40 pm #574560

didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Istoprocent1 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:41 pm #574562

Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby XDTM » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:48 pm #574564

I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:50 pm #574565

Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:54 pm #574566

This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby cacogen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:03 pm #574569

There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Space Panda » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:07 pm #574570

Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:14 pm #574573

i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:17 pm #574576

Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:19 pm #574577

Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:42 pm #574582

antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:51 pm #574585

Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Iatots » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:54 pm #574586

There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby terranaut » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:55 pm #574587

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:55 pm #574588

Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Space Panda » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:56 pm #574589

Armhulen wrote:Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:56 pm #574590

Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:00 pm #574592

i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Space Panda » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:00 pm #574593

Armhulen wrote:yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:00 pm #574594

terranaut wrote:Image


t. national socialists
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby terranaut » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 pm #574595

he should play magic on cockatrice instead
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby terranaut » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 pm #574596

Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Space Panda » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:03 pm #574598

this is not wholesome at all

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:11 pm #574601

Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:21 pm #574603

lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Istoprocent1 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:25 pm #574606

Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:32 pm #574611

Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Istoprocent1 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:36 pm #574615

Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Space Panda » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:57 pm #574622

Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby teepeepee » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 pm #574625

Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby iksyp » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:00 pm #574626

known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
ignore this poster he has brain damage

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Vekter » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:36 pm #574628

This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:41 pm #574630

We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
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Postby Denton » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:47 pm #574633

Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby oranges » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:47 pm #574635

sticky starts drama

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby XSI » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:31 pm #574639

This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby FantasticFwoosh » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:49 pm #574640

People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.


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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:49 pm #574641

XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby oranges » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:08 am #574659

fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

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Postby Armhulen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:42 am #574663

in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Space Panda » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:47 am #574664

Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:38 am #574667

I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby IkeTG » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:41 am #574669

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Gigapuddi420 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:52 pm #574687

oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Armhulen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:09 pm #574688

wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

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Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
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Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

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Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
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Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

Image
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF
Go to bed bro, she's not thinking about you.

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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Stickymayhem » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:13 pm #574689

Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

Image
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
Swept wrote:43r89y7u32872387g328ou7yyrgd


ewfiuwegfiu7weghfoiweugfo89gf239p8383833333


ew89hf98234hfr239832h98322222222222222222222


iuwqbduwqqw------------------------------

fdjwew
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry
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Re: Wholesome Debate: Antifa terrorism

Postby Space Panda » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:30 pm #574690

Stickymayhem wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:fuck you and your country
Space Panda wrote:didn't have time to read it, but I think this is the link to the complete article

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... ism_v6.pdf
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?
XDTM wrote:I mean, only one of those two ideologies has genocide as the main goal
Armhulen wrote:Not gonna lie, any authoritarian state would be pretty much the worst outcome for a country that has the two founding ideals of liberty and equality
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.
cacogen wrote:There's always this false equivalency between the left and right nowadays for some reason.
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Majority of Antifa members adhere to ideals of communism according to wikipedia.

Fascism killed 20 million or whatever.
Communism killed more than 100 million.

Why are we okay with supporting communism and its ideals?


Communism is not a single homogeneous belief. Just like capitalism, there are many different ideas about how it should work amongst its supporters.

Communism, in its core, has nothing to do with genocide. While there have been governments that claimed to be communist and commited atrocities against their own people, there have also been communist governments and movements that were responsible for positive change in their countries (e.g. Thomas Sankara's government of Burkina Faso, and many of the leftist movements that fought against the US-backed dictatorships in Latin America).
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?
Armhulen wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i just wanted less corporativism and more wages not an authoritarian state...

wait, are you saying you're a moderate or, god forbid, a centrist? you know what we do to centrists around here, boy?

no i sob into this graph which i have turned into a mousepad, pillowcase, poster, car ordainment, and festive wallpaper

Image
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb
Armhulen wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:antifa isn't authoritarian

antifa - anti fascist - known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

fascism is authoritarianism, antifa is anarchism, literally the polar opposite of authoritarianism

antifa isn't communism, communism is dumb

This big demon hunter is better than you think, but since the meta has gotten a bit aggro-y you'd actually be a bit better off putting in some AOE. And of course, add soulciologist if you have the dust.
Image
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.
terranaut wrote:Image
Stickymayhem wrote:
Iatots wrote:There is no global antifa movement.
There probably aren't any national movements outside mainland europe.
At this point it's become a buzzword.


if there's no global movement how did they install sleeper agents in all the schools and colleges?!?!?!?!
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now
Armhulen wrote:
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:Image


what the fuck is there a demon hunter class now

yes
Armhulen wrote:i want to craft this, but i just feel like i'm gonna be dead by turn 7. you know if i unpack this i'm totally going to slot this in
Image
Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:yes

Is it overpowered like in WoW?

and you should play magic arena instead, nerd
terranaut wrote:he should play magic on cockatrice instead
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:Image


t. national socialists


very wild accusation, scumbag

Image
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all
Stickymayhem wrote:
Space Panda wrote:this is not wholesome at all


i lied panda lets go do some terrorism
Armhulen wrote:lmfao this priest sure got terrorized alright

Image
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case
Space Panda wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:
Istoprocent1 wrote:Antifa is like Islam, at first it seems all fine and dandy (deception) - "we the underdogs, fighting the fascist" or in Islam's case "we are a religion of peace" and then suddenly one is on the streets hitting supposed fascists and nazis with bikelocks. :lol:


you type like a 50 year old facebooker its really out of place


I had a mini stroke around 2013, might be because of that.

Antifa Bikelock Warrior - https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08 ... sault-case


I believe he meant that instead of trying to create a solid argument, you're just making lazy generalizations that support your opinion

and that's not very helpful for a debate
teepeepee wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

lol are you really this delusional or are you trying to cover for your antifa buddy?
not only is there video evidence of this faggot being the one who charged the victim, he's been doxed to hell and back and said "I am 100% antifa all the way", Michael Forest Reinoehl's the name
just like you do when you call everyone to the left of mao "nazis", normal people call anyone that supports burning shit down cause criminals can't comply with police officers "antifa"
hope that solves your confusion
iksyp wrote:
known for protesting against fascism and violently fucking up fascists and authoritative structures

terrorism is furthering political beliefs with violence, people dont have to die but its still terrorism
Vekter wrote:This thread fucking sucks.

I agree with Sticky and even I think this thread sucks.
Stickymayhem wrote:We've isolated the infection, time to cauterize the wound
Denton wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:This is a good analysis of a movie. I always like this guy's movie/game analysis vids since they're both informative and entertaining.

I'm more of a Red Letter Media fan myself
oranges wrote:sticky starts drama

janitors claim people responding are the ones at fault
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?
FantasticFwoosh wrote:People will arrest you if you win a democratically won local election for leaning/representing nationist-conservative in Europe trimming any attempt to try; there is no alternative to soft or hard communism because our present age is obsessed with American imported humanitarianism to socialism and Russian work ethical propoganda straight off the presses of marxism. Minority rights are part of the Paris Peace treaties of WW2, but by no means are anybody obliged to continue following them, its just become societal norm.

The Democratic Party has really lost its way, still as racist but not as based from a certain point of view. Remember what they took from you.


Republicans won the civil war and still remain as propped to defend the Ideals of America as ever. Conservatives on average are physically attractive, or least passionate about their political choices, without having to tap into 80 year old demographic rulings on how one person is 2% less common in the common population gets 25% more of a say or the way you were born; reaching across the whole spectrum. The Democratic party will actually stop your freedom if you are not a racial quota hitter.
Armhulen wrote:
XSI wrote:This thread is pretty much exactly as I expected
As for antifa; The only neighbourhoods and cities they destroy are the ones already voting their way. And if they go out to other places they get shot. Good job giving Trump and his supporters more ammo and material to use against you. Rioting and destroying things surely won't cause people to look to Trump for help in getting rid of the thing they see as the problem - Antifa and other rioters.

So good job I guess? I'm not sure what manner of 6d backgammon they're trying to play here but surely helping your opponent get reelected is not a good idea?
Is this some kind of weird counter-accelerationism where they try to show the world how terrible it would be if their opponent is in charge by helping their opponent get in charge?

i wrote about this today
https://discordapp.com/channels/3268221 ... 1947656236
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever
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Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago

Space Panda wrote:
Armhulen wrote:in fwoosh's defense i gave up giving good replies awhile ago


all your replies are good buddy :ian:
Stickymayhem wrote:I kinda love that it's basically impossible to understand what fwoosh is arguing for or against.

I mean you can kinda assume but it's almost like a markov chain generator
IkeTG wrote:these pretzels are making me thirsty
Gigapuddi420 wrote:
oranges wrote:fwoosh remains as incomprehensible as ever

we have a lot of pretenders but nothing beats the original.
Stickymayhem wrote:Study of 900 politically motivated attacks from 1994 to may 2020
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf

Killings since 1994:
Antifa: 0
Right-Wing: 329

If you feel that the definition of terrorism includes "An unknown concealed carrier being charged and sprayed with bear mace firing at their attacker and killing them" then antifa is now at 1. No suspect, no evidence this guy was antifa, but of course it's antifa right? It's always those vicious violent terrorists who kill american patriots.

GO FUCK YOURSELF


ok sorry


please don't do this

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