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Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:45 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
Watch your tongue. You're speaking to Ulfric Stormcloak, the true High King

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:50 am
by Whoneedspacee
man i thought covid denial on the right was the most retarded thing ever but thinking trump is going to go to prison and thinking racists support him man you guys prove me wrong every day

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:03 am
by cacogen
There are multiple criminal investigations into him at the moment (Google it or just say I'm wrong I can't be bothered to provide examples) so while I agree it seems unlikely based on his track record of getting away with things it's not outside the realm of possibility. As for racists not supporting Trump, as though we haven't seen evidence of this time and time again, I don't know what to say.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:28 am
by Grazyn
Even if it was remotely possible for him to be indicted, found guilty, and sentenced to prison, Trump is just going to preemptively pardon himself before he leaves office

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:17 am
by Lumbermancer
Grazyn wrote:Even if it was remotely possible for him to be indicted, found guilty, and sentenced to prison, Trump is just going to preemptively pardon himself before he leaves office



Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:43 pm
by Rohen_Tahir

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:59 pm
by Grazyn
Lumbermancer wrote:
Grazyn wrote:Even if it was remotely possible for him to be indicted, found guilty, and sentenced to prison, Trump is just going to preemptively pardon himself before he leaves office



This is interesting but in short even Handsome Lawyer Guy says "nobody knows what will happen"

Trump is still going to self-pardon as long as there's the tiniest chance of it working

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:27 pm
by oranges
he'll go down for state crimes, not federal ones, he can't pardon his way out of those

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:57 am
by XSI
This all reminds me of the chants of "Lock her up" about 4 years ago for Hillary
If she didn't go to jail despite the shitloads of evidence she was involved in criminal shit, then you can be sure Trump isn't either

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:10 am
by Armhulen
XSI wrote:This all reminds me of the chants of "Lock her up" about 4 years ago for Hillary
If she didn't go to jail despite the shitloads of evidence she was involved in criminal shit, then you can be sure Trump isn't either

She wasn't president, there's at least that for a case

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:54 am
by Whoneedspacee
literal 3 year investigation and all they found was that he pre-paid his taxes, the obama administration spied on him, and he has money in foreign countries (which no politician or businessman has ever had)

i assume there will be many grandstanding court “””cases””” on the same level as most of the election fraud cases

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:20 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
Whoneedspacee wrote:literal 3 year investigation and all they found was that he pre-paid his taxes, the obama administration spied on him, and he has money in foreign countries (which no politician or businessman has ever had)

i assume there will be many grandstanding court “””cases””” on the same level as most of the election fraud cases

I bet my 0 antag tokens Donald Trump will be found innocent of attempted murder at least once.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:36 pm
by XSI
Since this is the politics thread, enjoy

https://t.co/84HlC1NGtR
At the very least, read the preliminary conclusions

It essentially confirms that the Dominion software facilitates vote fraud. That election laws have been broken consistently, and that logs that could prove tampering have been intentionally deleted
Possibly foreign interference, and an official investigation needs to be started (Chinese, Venezuelan and Canadian mentioned as possible)
And probably more if you want to read the full thing

Election tampering has been confirmed in at least one case, and this same system was in use in a large amount of cases with questionable voting results

Edit: Link fixed

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:13 pm
by Grazyn
oranges wrote:he'll go down for state crimes, not federal ones, he can't pardon his way out of those

Which state crimes?

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:54 pm
by XivilaiAnaxes
I'm tempted to say that there are a lot more salty salters that want to put Trump is prison just because they can, also that after Trump won nobody really 'cared' so much about doing anything about Hilary once she was thrown into the proverbial gutter.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:17 pm
by oranges
Grazyn wrote:
oranges wrote:he'll go down for state crimes, not federal ones, he can't pardon his way out of those

Which state crimes?

Wouldn't you like to know!

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:31 pm
by Lumbermancer
XSI wrote:Since this is the politics thread, enjoy

https://t.co/84HlC1NGtR
At the very least, read the preliminary conclusions

It essentially confirms that the Dominion software facilitates vote fraud.


I thought it's gonna be a DOJ report or something, but that's some proud boys crack team called Allied Security Operations Group. Website archive says it was a sidewalkartshow in 2007. It has link to "ASOG MembershipApplication", which makes me think they just repurposed the acronym.

The site also says "Texas DPS License A06246501", which is a drivers license?

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:56 am
by PKPenguin321
Rohen_Tahir wrote:

haha woah why is that rabbit so big?

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:20 am
by cacogen
I tried to get the admins to play that last night

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:57 am
by Grazyn
XSI wrote:Since this is the politics thread, enjoy

https://t.co/84HlC1NGtR
At the very least, read the preliminary conclusions

It essentially confirms that the Dominion software facilitates vote fraud. That election laws have been broken consistently, and that logs that could prove tampering have been intentionally deleted
Possibly foreign interference, and an official investigation needs to be started (Chinese, Venezuelan and Canadian mentioned as possible)
And probably more if you want to read the full thing

Election tampering has been confirmed in at least one case, and this same system was in use in a large amount of cases with questionable voting results

Edit: Link fixed

I ain't reading all of this but a quick Google search of the author is linked to a "pants on fire" politifact article, that's all I need to know

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:50 am
by Farquaar
Grazyn wrote:I ain't reading all of this but a quick Google search of the author is linked to a "pants on fire" politifact article, that's all I need to know

Now THIS is how you do satire correctly. Bravo, Grazyn. You've gifted me quite the hearty chuckle.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:17 am
by XSI
That was perfect
I applaud Grazyn for what is probably the best post in this thread and possibly one of the best posts on this forum in 2020

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:07 am
by Timonk
Do I need to be republican to get this joke

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:41 am
by Rohen_Tahir
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:

haha woah why is that rabbit so big?

#define chungus int
#define big long

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:55 am
by cacogen
The free thinking internet nerd contrarians are pretending to laugh at the fact that nobody wants to read a long article to take part in an internet argument, especially not one the opponent has provided and that is likely full of falsehoods or misleading in service of their agenda and that nobody takes right-wing sources seriously and easily believe it when their reliability is debunked by reputable ones.

If you can't argue in good faith, provide trustworthy information and not inundate people with pages of shit no one wants to read then don't be surprised when people dismiss you outright

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:45 am
by Grazyn
So apparently republican legislatures in swing states sent an alternative (as in "alternative facts", got it?) slate of electors for Trump in addition to the certified one. On January 6 Congress will have the final word on the issue. I'm not american and the legacy media didn't help me understand how it works (every article is just a different flavour of "it's a joke, we're not explaining why but trust us, Biden is president")

Wiki says
Members of Congress can object to any state's vote count, provided objection is presented in writing and is signed by at least one member of each house of Congress. An objection supported by at least one senator and one representative will be followed by the suspension of the joint session and by separate debates and votes in each House of Congress; after both Houses deliberate on the objection, the joint session is resumed.

A state's certificate of vote can be rejected only if both Houses of Congress vote to accept the objection, meaning the votes from the State in question are not counted. Individual votes can also be rejected, and are also not counted.

but how does the House vote in this instance? By state delegations like in a contigent election (which means Trump wins, as long as he can hold the senate in the Georgia run-off) or not?

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:50 pm
by wesoda25
Idk but trump is a retard and the people going along with him are pussies

Hope this helps :D

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:53 pm
by Whoneedspacee
i like trump hope biden does well

id say theres no grand conspiracy election fraud but i do think there are mentally deranged people who would think they are being heroes by getting trump out of office maybe we will find out some day

but anyways this alternate electors thing is classic media clickbait the house definitely wouldnt and i doubt even the senate would accept it

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:21 pm
by cacogen
If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:43 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

Biden is just as incompetent as Trump.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:24 pm
by XivilaiAnaxes
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

lmfao "I voted I'm a hero like my marvel movie characters"
No.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:55 pm
by Grazyn
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

lmfao "I voted I'm a hero like my marvel movie characters"
No.

Image

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:08 pm
by XivilaiAnaxes
Huge cringe

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:14 pm
by trollbreeder

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:06 pm
by cacogen
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

lmfao "I voted I'm a hero like my marvel movie characters"
No.

Everyone who voted for Biden helped get rid of Trump and elect someone who takes COVID-19 seriously. That's a form of heroism, instead of sitting at home or voting Trump or a third party like a retard. I'm not saying these people are at the level of the people who work with COVID-19 patients, but what they did helped save lives and to a degree of risk to themselves.

I'm not American and did not vote in my country's elections this year, by the way. But there was little fear of electing someone as retarded as Trump.
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

Biden is just as incompetent as Trump.

That's wrong. Kanye West would be less incompetent than Trump. Biden is obviously right-leaning centrist garbage politically but the point was to pick someone who takes the virus more seriously than Trump.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:52 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
cacogen wrote:
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

lmfao "I voted I'm a hero like my marvel movie characters"
No.

Everyone who voted for Biden helped get rid of Trump and elect someone who takes COVID-19 seriously. That's a form of heroism, instead of sitting at home or voting Trump or a third party like a retard. I'm not saying these people are at the level of the people who work with COVID-19 patients, but what they did helped save lives and to a degree of risk to themselves.

I'm not American and did not vote in my country's elections this year, by the way. But there was little fear of electing someone as retarded as Trump.
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

Biden is just as incompetent as Trump.

That's wrong. Kanye West would be less incompetent than Trump. Biden is obviously right-leaning centrist garbage politically but the point was to pick someone who takes the virus more seriously than Trump.

Yes, Joe Biden's husband takes the current GRIDS epidemic very seriously.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:59 pm
by XivilaiAnaxes
How is voting a risk when you can just send a postal vote? Doing the "bare minimum civic duty" as some people claim is hardly putting yourself at risk.

Also not American, my country fines you if you don't bother to show up.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:07 am
by XSI
>Voting Biden is a form of heroism

I've worked with people who are officially and legally retarded but even they aren't this bad
I've volunteered at a place alongside people who are barely able to talk and even they aren't this stupid
I struggle to find ways to properly express how cult-like and self-absorbed such a worldview is, how utterly lacking in empathy and reasoning skills such a statement could be

So I'm going to just sit back and keep reading this dumpsterfire of a thread

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:56 am
by Farquaar
Cacogen, I don't use the word hero very often.
But you are the greatest hero in American history.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:15 pm
by Timonk
I don't use the word retard very often
You are the greatest retard in hiatory

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:04 pm
by Ayy Lemoh
Anyways, headmins, this thread is only half of my argumentative essay for why you should change the policy I want changed.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:27 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
cacogen wrote:
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

lmfao "I voted I'm a hero like my marvel movie characters"
No.

Everyone who voted for Biden helped get rid of Trump and elect someone who takes COVID-19 seriously. That's a form of heroism, instead of sitting at home or voting Trump or a third party like a retard. I'm not saying these people are at the level of the people who work with COVID-19 patients, but what they did helped save lives and to a degree of risk to themselves.

I'm not American and did not vote in my country's elections this year, by the way. But there was little fear of electing someone as retarded as Trump.
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
cacogen wrote:If the death toll from COVID is reduced under Biden then is helping vote Trump out of office not some form of heroism?

Biden is just as incompetent as Trump.

That's wrong. Kanye West would be less incompetent than Trump. Biden is obviously right-leaning centrist garbage politically but the point was to pick someone who takes the virus more seriously than Trump.

Ok for real tho. This isn't what heroism is. Here are the multiple definitions of heroism that exist as of December 2020: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heroic
As you may notice, none of them are what cacogen thinks heroism is.
The closest one would be "supremely noble or self-sacrificing", but voting isn't a noble act, it's a citizen's duty. Voting is about as heroic as a bank bureaucrat pushing back an economic recession by denying loans that are unlikely to generate profit for the bank.

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:37 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
These guys call people who disagree with then cultists and then demand a medal of honor for voting for a senile rapist who's going to sell them out to the chia-knees who caused the virus in the first place thru gross negligence and using the WHO to spread misinformation lmao

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:53 pm
by thehogshotgun
Rohen_Tahir wrote:The closest one would be "supremely noble or self-sacrificing", but voting isn't a noble act, it's a citizen's duty. Voting is about as heroic as a bank bureaucrat pushing back an economic recession by denying loans that are unlikely to generate profit for the bank.


Yeeeees did you guys know we should privatize student loans so that we stop paying for retards' liberal arts degrees?

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:10 pm
by IkeTG
the only heroism is baiting this many people at once

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:50 pm
by cacogen
XSI wrote:>Voting Biden is a form of heroism

I've worked with people who are officially and legally retarded but even they aren't this bad
I've volunteered at a place alongside people who are barely able to talk and even they aren't this stupid
I struggle to find ways to properly express how cult-like and self-absorbed such a worldview is, how utterly lacking in empathy and reasoning skills such a statement could be

So I'm going to just sit back and keep reading this dumpsterfire of a thread

Right so for the sake of this thread I'm just going to say I was wrong for defending the idea that voting for Biden to get rid of Trump (as opposed to abstaining or voting for someone who would never get enough votes to beat him) in order to secure the presidency for some guy who couldn't not do a better job of eliminating COVID than Trump showed some level of heroism. The term hero was obviously misapplied here and I fell for the bait like the Heavy does in the meme. This allows disingenuous retards like yourself to paint me as an ignorant self-congratulating liberal who loves the right-leaning Biden because he was the black president's VP and he likes ice cream and isn't Trump. With Biden we'll be going back to the status quo which is at least stable and predictable for the most part with the expectation this will lead to less COVID deaths and the United States eventually gaining control of the virus. It's still far from ideal.

Rohen_Tahir wrote:voting isn't a noble act, it's a citizen's duty

lol fascist

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:35 pm
by oranges
Grazyn wrote:man fuck your giant ass image Grazyn

what's up with the postal workers doing pushups

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:37 pm
by oranges
XSI wrote:>Voting Biden is a form of heroism

I've worked with people who are officially and legally retarded but even they aren't this bad
I've volunteered at a place alongside people who are barely able to talk and even they aren't this stupid
I struggle to find ways to properly express how cult-like and self-absorbed such a worldview is, how utterly lacking in empathy and reasoning skills such a statement could be

So I'm going to just sit back and keep reading this dumpsterfire of a thread

cope lol

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:57 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
cacogen wrote:
XSI wrote:>Voting Biden is a form of heroism

I've worked with people who are officially and legally retarded but even they aren't this bad
I've volunteered at a place alongside people who are barely able to talk and even they aren't this stupid
I struggle to find ways to properly express how cult-like and self-absorbed such a worldview is, how utterly lacking in empathy and reasoning skills such a statement could be

So I'm going to just sit back and keep reading this dumpsterfire of a thread

Right so for the sake of this thread I'm just going to say I was wrong for defending the idea that voting for Biden to get rid of Trump (as opposed to abstaining or voting for someone who would never get enough votes to beat him) in order to secure the presidency for some guy who couldn't not do a better job of eliminating COVID than Trump showed some level of heroism. The term hero was obviously misapplied here and I fell for the bait like the Heavy does in the meme. This allows disingenuous retards like yourself to paint me as an ignorant self-congratulating liberal who loves the right-leaning Biden because he was the black president's VP and he likes ice cream and isn't Trump. With Biden we'll be going back to the status quo which is at least stable and predictable for the most part with the expectation this will lead to less COVID deaths and the United States eventually gaining control of the virus. It's still far from ideal.

Rohen_Tahir wrote:voting isn't a noble act, it's a citizen's duty

lol fascist

*turns into Hitler*

Re: Rip trump

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:25 pm
by cacogen
Sometimes I write a bunch of shit and come back to it later and wonder why I was like that