/tg/Station 13

What if the USA prohibited gun use from the start of modern guns(special cases like army, hunters excluded, basically you can't buy an AR 15 at best buy) so they didn't spread in first place?

No people that made shooting to their hobbies
No gun loving patriots
People actually see rifles as what they are, dangerous metal pea shooters)

Timonk wrote:What if the USA prohibited gun use from the start of modern guns(special cases like army, hunters excluded, basically you can't buy an AR 15 at best buy) so they didn't spread in first place?

No people that made shooting to their hobbies
No gun loving patriots
People actually see rifles as what they are, dangerous metal pea shooters)

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

"Radical"

I mean obviously the average Australian lacks the basic empathy necessary to be trusted with a firearm and the average American is too stupid for it but Americans get triggered very easily by people suggesting most 2A people are too narcissistic and dumb to handle the responsibility that comes with it and I don't think we're gonna solve it here but thank you for making another easy thread to shitpost in Timonk

cacogen wrote:I mean obviously the average Australian lacks the basic empathy necessary to be trusted with a firearm and the average American is too stupid for it but Americans get triggered very easily by people suggesting most 2A people are too narcissistic and dumb to handle the responsibility that comes with it and I don't think we're gonna solve it here but thank you for making another easy thread to shitpost in Timonk

cACOGEN MORE LIEK LOSER AHAHHA

thehogshotgun wrote:

cacogen wrote:I mean obviously the average Australian lacks the basic empathy necessary to be trusted with a firearm and the average American is too stupid for it but Americans get triggered very easily by people suggesting most 2A people are too narcissistic and dumb to handle the responsibility that comes with it and I don't think we're gonna solve it here but thank you for making another easy thread to shitpost in Timonk

cACOGEN MORE LIEK LOSER AHAHHA

I see nothing wrong in his intelligent post

Thank you oranges.

This is almost as dumb as Helios’ proposal to sell Canada to Japan

what if we sold the USA to canada?

Timonk wrote:What if the USA prohibited gun use from the start of modern guns(special cases like army, hunters excluded, basically you can't buy an AR 15 at best buy) so they didn't spread in first place?

No people that made shooting to their hobbies
No gun loving patriots
People actually see rifles as what they are, dangerous metal pea shooters)

This is utterly fucking retarded because old guns are shit for self-defence but still useful for muggings, school schootings and the like. Congratulations for findings the worst fucking solution possible.

An idea so radical it requires time travel to implement.

Better get started on modifying a DeLorean. You'll need a lot of uranium.

what if we just stopped selling handguns and automatic rifles to the general public?
i mean, most modern weapons are going to be useless in 100 years, either from not being used, being overused or simply breaking
that would solve the problem of mugging with handguns in 100 years

Timonk wrote:what if we just stopped selling handguns and automatic rifles to the general public?
i mean, most modern weapons are going to be useless in 100 years, either from not being used, being overused or simply breaking
that would solve the problem of mugging with handguns in 100 years

u r braintumor

i dont talk to people with shotgun in their name on a gun debate

Timonk wrote:what if we just stopped selling handguns and automatic rifles to the general public?
i mean, most modern weapons are going to be useless in 100 years, either from not being used, being overused or simply breaking
that would solve the problem of mugging with handguns in 100 years

No it won't, and you're stupid.

hey how do you think we limited gun crimes in other countries

Hey guess what timonk when the only legally important part of a gun is a receiver and it's not that hard to print them it's not a good idea, thanks bye bye

would like to see more background checks, i saw the background checks when someone i know was getting them and they were pathetic

you need a high quality 3d printer to print guns i believe. most crackheads cant afford those

oh and youre right. as i said, we shouldnt be selling AR 15's at walmart

Timonk wrote:hey how do you think we limited gun crimes in other countries

Where I live we limit gun crime with by requiring training and mental health checks for gun permits, keeping unemployment low and having an actually competent police force.

One of the things your country does is mentioned by me but I would do it more drastically

Rohen_Tahir wrote:Where I live we limit gun crime with by requiring training and mental health checks for gun permits, keeping unemployment low and having an actually competent police force.

Tbh these will be the ways we will have to combat gun violence going forward. The age of 3D printed guns is upon us. Every year, 3D printed guns become more durable and perform to higher standards. Every year, 3D printers become more advanced and less expensive. In an age where people can 3D print functional automatic firearms, gun control is dead. All society can do is try to fix the underlying causes of gun crime.

What if gunpowder was never invented and hoodlums did drivebys with 4.5mm bullets from wrist-braced slingshots while under heavy fire from some dudes with Chu-ko-nu?

Timonk wrote:hey how do you think we limited gun crimes in other countries

Why don't we make grenades illegal in Sweden?

It would be nice if American gun culture wasn't tied in with toxic masculinity in addition to being seen as the final bastion of personal liberty.
It does make sense that the best way to avoid that is to not let Americans treat guns as death toys that they're entitled to in the first place.

People should be able to have a fire arm if they live rurally or if they work a job that requires one.

People should be able to have a fire arm if they live rurally

Ah yes, where all muggings occur

thehogshotgun wrote:

People should be able to have a fire arm if they live rurally

Ah yes, where all muggings occur

Its to cull dangerous wildlife you clown

urban dwellers are dangerous wildlife

You should be able to carry a gun for self-defense or have one at home to protect yourself and your family.

Timonk wrote:What if the USA prohibited gun use from the start of modern guns(special cases like army, hunters excluded, basically you can't buy an AR 15 at best buy) so they didn't spread in first place?

No people that made shooting to their hobbies
No gun loving patriots
People actually see rifles as what they are, dangerous metal pea shooters)

The point of the 2nd amendment is to provide a recourse against a corrupt government. If the people can't buy what the army has, the 2nd amendment is useless.

It hasn't aged well.

cacogen wrote:You should be able to carry a gun for self-defense or have one at home to protect yourself and your family.

That's how you don't do gun control
That's how you spread illegally sold weapons

You wouldn't need a gun if the robbers can't have access to a gun to begin with

Timonk wrote:You wouldn't need a gun if the robbers can't have access to a gun to begin with

Don't worry, they won't rób anything, that'd be ILLEGAL!

i didnt say there wouldnt be robberies without guns

how about we give free self defense classes to new homeowners then in compensation

Block the bullet with your certificate in dick punching and blowing a whistle

Timonk wrote:how about we give free self defense classes to new homeowners then in compensation

Brazilian ju-jitsu classes won’t do much against a home invader with an illegal or 3D-printed gun.

guns on the black market are really gonna rise in price when you cant get them at walmart

you are assuming robbers have infinite funds and can get a high quality 3d printer just like that

Timonk wrote:You wouldn't need a gun if the robbers can't have access to a gun to begin with

I can't tell if it's bait but it seems like you haven't thought about this or discussed it with anyone. Anyway, luckily the deep state has developed a gun deletion tool while everyone was distracted by COVID and inadvertently solved America's spree killing problem. As a result, each spree killing will now be worth double points to compensate for the difficulty of using an infomercial katana and other autist-sourced weapons.

Timonk wrote:you are assuming robbers have infinite funds and can get a high quality 3d printer just like that

Other people's money can buy a lot of stuff

Timonk wrote:guns on the black market are really gonna rise in price when you cant get them at walmart

Congratulations you made selling 3d printed guns a lucrative business. Great!

Timonk wrote:you are assuming robbers have infinite funds and can get a high quality 3d printer just like that

>Bans guns to reduce supply and increase the black market price
>Doesn't ban 3D printers
>Supply of 3D printers continues to increase, price of 3D printing decreases
>3D printed guns flood the black market

Timonk wrote:how about we give free self defense classes to new homeowners then in compensation

I think this is the comment that really seals the deal that Timonk gave up on this.

Also "but bro 3d printers are really hard to come across".

Rohen_Tahir wrote:

Timonk wrote:guns on the black market are really gonna rise in price when you cant get them at walmart

Congratulations you made selling 3d printed guns a lucrative business. Great!

are you saying you should sell guns at walmart

To be fair, a 3D printed gun is total rubbish, there is this nice weapons dealer on youtube that tested this out, and concluded it would pretty likely blow up and kill the shooter as well. I mean, there's only so many things you can do with this plastic shit or whatever it is these printers use, and lots of moving mechanical parts mixed with explosives and high stress on the structure probably isn't one of them.

Timonk wrote:

Rohen_Tahir wrote:

Timonk wrote:guns on the black market are really gonna rise in price when you cant get them at walmart

Congratulations you made selling 3d printed guns a lucrative business. Great!

are you saying you should sell guns at walmart

In America? Yes. At this point any decrease in avaibility of firearms will result in firearms being avaible illegally easier than legally. If gun prices rise on the black market too much black market arms dealers will start buying those 1 million dollar metal printers and mass producing stuff like the Solid Concepts 1911 DMLS. Obviously, due to economics, this will eventually result in the guns becoming real cheap and then possibly in those black market arms dealers funding 3d printed gun R&D.

you are fighting fire with fire

Timonk wrote:you are fighting fire with fire

Ever heard of swailing?

BONERMASTER wrote:To be fair, a 3D printed gun is total rubbish, there is this nice weapons dealer on youtube that tested this out, and concluded it would pretty likely blow up and kill the shooter as well. I mean, there's only so many things you can do with this plastic shit or whatever it is these printers use, and lots of moving mechanical parts mixed with explosives and high stress on the structure probably isn't one of them.

I used to think that. But the tech is evolving rapidly. There are plenty of gun hobbyist channels on Youtube that showcase semi-automatic and fully automatic 3D printed firearms at shooting ranges. They're remarkably durable, and definitely make for a dangerous weapon.

It's inevitable, really. Traditional designs don't work with plastic materials? Create new designs that reinforce those vulnerable areas. PLA not tough enough to withstand fully automatic fire? Use tougher plastic, like PLA+. These aren't like those early one-shot matchlock printed pistols that you saw five years ago.