Free Manuel Party Peanut

[Thunder11]

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[Misdoubtful]

Yeah it does seem like most people agree that other servers have suffered a decline in some areas. But how would cutting it off improve things? The change has already happened. There's no going back.

Cutting it off to its own codebase would be suicide though. What would make it different from many downstreams?

Having separate administrations like is wanted would also be difficult. That could evolve to being two separate communities both fighting to contribute to the same code and reacting to what's there with completely different policy. What a nightmare that would be.

It's just, not the same case as things like tgmc.

[bobbahbrown]

tlal is quickly rising in the ranks of the fmp, some say hes going to have a landslide victory at the primaries

politically observing,
bobbah 'bee' brown

[RaveRadbury]

I don’t think we should set Manuel free with its own administration, and definitely not it’s own codebase (I know that’s not what you said but some people throw the idea around). The idea is that it’s simply a higher roleplay experience than our normal servers, and that doesn’t require anything independent. All servers utilizing the same set of headmins keeps them decently close together in policy, and sort of cross pollute one another. Who knows, down the line manuel might actually end up increasing the roleplay levels for our other servers, which I don’t think would be a bad thing. Of course the fear is that “hugbox policies” will leak into LRP, but if they end up being common sense things like restricting lowpop murderbone and validhunting then I can’t say I’ll be upset.

So far RP level, at least on Terry, has been in decline for quite a while.

Is this something that you'd like to see change? What has the decline on Terry looked like, from your perspective? What do you think would improve Terry's RP?

[pugie]

Literally I think everyone would vote for tlal if he ran.
VOTE TLAL

[wesoda25]

I think RP decreased on the other servers from Manuel because A: the initial migration of roleplay partial people to it. I also think it sort of just passively steals away roleplay minded people since it is advertised as such, and at the same time the lack of such a label on LRP servers ends up attracting shitters to LRP who think they can do whatever they want. Sybil IMO has suffered the most from this, bagil is just kinda consistenly shitty, can't speak for terry.

[Cobby]

It’s kinda a shame the only way we could get a clamp on chain murderboning every round to the point where most people instantly gear up is by attaching a bunch of other MRP hoopla to make it distinct enough or whatever, meaning now I have to deal with people interested in playing 4+ hour rounds if I want to get away from individuals who get their kicks from rolling the bad guy and using it in the most cheese way possible to try to eliminate the crew EVERY SINGLE ROUND they are antag, and there’s enough of these individuals it never feels like you actually get a break.

[Mothblocks]

It’s kinda a shame the only way we could get a clamp on chain murderboning every round to the point where most people instantly gear up is by attaching a bunch of other MRP hoopla to make it distinct enough or whatever, meaning now I have to deal with people interested in playing 4+ hour rounds if I want to get away from individuals who get their kicks from rolling the bad guy and using it in the most cheese way possible to try to eliminate the crew EVERY SINGLE ROUND they are antag, and there’s enough of these individuals it never feels like you actually get a break.

[pugie]

Top of their class, world renowned coder and maintainer uses impact font memes.

[cacogen]

Just flesh out its standards so admins like Thunder don't have to be confused about how to administrate it when they go there for some reason and end up making threads calling for it to be jettisoned from mainstream /tg/, dooming it to be a weird niche thing for furries and pussies.

Long rounds are so much better than the usual 40 minute fuckfests where you're lucky if you can complete your job let alone get to enjoy anything from it and the MRP standards are better because people react in character instead of treating it like a game, which makes it more fun.

[iamgoofball]

I do not trust the manuel metagame discord to properly administrate a server.

[iamgoofball]

It’s kinda a shame the only way we could get a clamp on chain murderboning every round to the point where most people instantly gear up is by attaching a bunch of other MRP hoopla to make it distinct enough or whatever, meaning now I have to deal with people interested in playing 4+ hour rounds if I want to get away from individuals who get their kicks from rolling the bad guy and using it in the most cheese way possible to try to eliminate the crew EVERY SINGLE ROUND they are antag, and there’s enough of these individuals it never feels like you actually get a break.

yeah this tbh

[oranges]

Top of their class, world renowned coder and maintainer uses impact font memes.

[Rohen_Tahir]

I don’t think we should set Manuel free with its own administration, and definitely not it’s own codebase (I know that’s not what you said but some people throw the idea around). The idea is that it’s simply a higher roleplay experience than our normal servers, and that doesn’t require anything independent. All servers utilizing the same set of headmins keeps them decently close together in policy, and sort of cross pollute one another. Who knows, down the line manuel might actually end up increasing the roleplay levels for our other servers, which I don’t think would be a bad thing. Of course the fear is that “hugbox policies” will leak into LRP, but if they end up being common sense things like restricting lowpop murderbone and validhunting then I can’t say I’ll be upset.

So far RP level, at least on Terry, has been in decline for quite a while.

Is this something that you'd like to see change? What has the decline on Terry looked like, from your perspective? What do you think would improve Terry's RP?

1. Yes. 2. Roleplay right now is more or less equivalent to NoRP with "round" worldfiltered into "shift" and "admin" worldfiltered into "centcom". This didn't use to be the case. 3. 23

[RaveRadbury]

So far RP level, at least on Terry, has been in decline for quite a while.

Is this something that you'd like to see change? What has the decline on Terry looked like, from your perspective? What do you think would improve Terry's RP?

1. Yes. 2. Roleplay right now is more or less equivalent to NoRP with "round" worldfiltered into "shift" and "admin" worldfiltered into "centcom". This didn't use to be the case. 3. 23

Would you be willing to elaborate on what your roleplay ideals are? You've got my attention and likely the attention of others, please effortpost.

[Tlaltecuhtli]

when did terry rp decline? are you talking about when there were like 4 people doing 12h rounds cause everyone played bagil?

[Armhulen]

Terry was always hippie level though, bagil and sybil weren't at one point because they existed long before hippie died

[Rohen_Tahir]

So far RP level, at least on Terry, has been in decline for quite a while.

Is this something that you'd like to see change? What has the decline on Terry looked like, from your perspective? What do you think would improve Terry's RP?

1. Yes. 2. Roleplay right now is more or less equivalent to NoRP with "round" worldfiltered into "shift" and "admin" worldfiltered into "centcom". This didn't use to be the case. 3. 23

Would you be willing to elaborate on what your roleplay ideals are? You've got my attention and likely the attention of others, please effortpost.

I dunno but "pray to centcom", "it's revs" and "nukies shift" certainly aren't things that belong in IC chat. If I remember correctly stuff this egregious wasn't a common sight around 1 year ago.

Edit: Also ideally most people shouldn't let you saw through their bones with no anesthetic/morphine, near-mute idiot HoS should be the exception and not the rule, and trials should happen sometimes, but those are impossible on LRP anyways so this is the useless kind of feedback.

[Armhulen]

So far RP level, at least on Terry, has been in decline for quite a while.

Is this something that you'd like to see change? What has the decline on Terry looked like, from your perspective? What do you think would improve Terry's RP?

1. Yes. 2. Roleplay right now is more or less equivalent to NoRP with "round" worldfiltered into "shift" and "admin" worldfiltered into "centcom". This didn't use to be the case. 3. 23

Would you be willing to elaborate on what your roleplay ideals are? You've got my attention and likely the attention of others, please effortpost.

I dunno but "pray to centcom", "it's revs" and "nukies shift" certainly aren't things that belong in IC chat. If I remember correctly stuff this egregious wasn't a common sight around 1 year ago.

Haha, remember when admins would bwoink you for it's revs instead of there are revs

[wesoda25]

Do they not anymore? I do.

[Armhulen]

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT, THAT'S THE SPIRIT!

[Mothblocks]

i do when im not busy with something else, because its not even accurate anymore

[Farquaar]

trials should happen sometimes, but those are impossible on LRP anyways so this is the useless kind of feedback.

That’s what makes me so sad. We used to have trials on Sybil a few years back when I first started playing. But since Manuel, we’ve seen the following:

1. Regular Servers saw a drop in willingness to RP
2. Designated MRP server became a wannabe-HRP hugbox

I wish I had statistics or evidence to back up what I’m feeling, but I’m trying my hardest to keep my nostalgia glasses off here.

[Mothblocks]

sybil pre-manuel was the best roleplay tg has ever had, its a shame the way history went

<--- talking out of ass and through the same nostalgia goggles

[Omega_DarkPotato]

trials should happen sometimes, but those are impossible on LRP anyways so this is the useless kind of feedback.

That’s what makes me so sad. We used to have trials on Sybil a few years back when I first started playing. But since Manuel, we’ve seen the following:

1. Regular Servers saw a drop in willingness to RP
2. Designated MRP server became a wannabe-HRP hugbox

I wish I had statistics or evidence to back up what I’m feeling, but I’m trying my hardest to keep my nostalgia glasses off here.

hey hey I had a trial a couple rounds back on sybil (course, that's like a month ago with how often I play haha) where I was a mediborg and professional lawyer to a man just trying to spread the truth
trials on sybil are few and far between but god are they enjoyable when they actually happen - I just think you need people to actually push for them to occur. Be the one to push for it. (eg: hop or hos or cap)

[Mothblocks]

anecdotally i feel trials happen just as much on bagil today as they used to, which is to basically back up what omega said with that theyre very rare but very funny

i bet if i was truly dedicated i could scrape say logs and get an accurate number though

[RaveRadbury]

Trials can happen on any server, you just have to have lawyers that actually try and do the job rather than doing assistant things.

[pugie]

Trials wouldn't be nearly as funny as they are if they happened more than twice a year on any given server.

[Mickyan]

It’s kinda a shame the only way we could get a clamp on chain murderboning every round to the point where most people instantly gear up is by attaching a bunch of other MRP hoopla to make it distinct enough or whatever, meaning now I have to deal with people interested in playing 4+ hour rounds if I want to get away from individuals who get their kicks from rolling the bad guy and using it in the most cheese way possible to try to eliminate the crew EVERY SINGLE ROUND they are antag, and there’s enough of these individuals it never feels like you actually get a break.

This whole thread stinks but I just wanted to point out I never met anyone who unironically wants 4 hour rounds, I think most people would appreciate something inbetween a 15 minutes dynamic wizard+blood cult round and a 2 hours snoozefest where nothing happens

[cacogen]

Give me a 2 hour wakefest where something happens but the death toll isn't over half and something important doesn't explode in a way that asks way too much effort to ever be repaired and continues to be an annoyance and the perfect excuse to call the shuttle for the rest of the round

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Terry whine if you tell them that "go do bar rp" is not ic

[Misdoubtful]

Trials wouldn't be nearly as funny as they are if they happened more than twice a year on any given server.

But, what about the once a month meme flavor of the month trials?

[Tlaltecuhtli]

bar rp is ic how else manelds do it?

[cacogen]

I was barpeeing on Manuel last night with a moth talking to the bartender about things like the shitstain on his pillow and a transpecies lizardwoman who happened to be my valentine that round. The bartender made me a Muana Loa which burnt all my access off and along with a Dynamic spider, crit me. Later an admin accused me of spreading all-access.

[Mothblocks]

youre making manuel sound cooler than it is

[cacogen]

My mistake was giving the spider the benefit of the doubt. Robustness is reactionary. We should hear the simple_mobs out.

[Misdoubtful]

Oranges got stood up for Bar RP on Manuel. Clearly something is very WRONG.

[oranges]

[Super Aggro Crag]

Terry players lowered the bar so much we lost it

[cacogen]

Yeah, it can be difficult finding your way on maps that are new to you. Especially KiloStation.

[oranges]

they didn't have a bartender, so I thought it was just the library, but not a single crewmember on the crew tried to help me find the bar when I asked.

I'm not sure what kind of roleplay they do there, but it must be psionic cause they don't say shit

[Mothblocks]

i wouldnt have stood you up. come back to bagil..
yes..

[ArcaneDefence]

My favorite type of bar rp is where I go in as a plasmeme, ask whoever is running the bar what the optimal alcohols is, and then immediately start chugging as much as I can before I fall into crit from bursting into flames and suffocating.

It's a good time.

[Farquaar]

My favorite type of bar rp is where I go in as a plasmeme, ask whoever is running the bar what the optimal alcohols is, and then immediately start chugging as much as I can before I fall into crit from bursting into flames and suffocating.

It's a good time.

>Barkeep doesn't cut you off
failrp

[ArcaneDefence]

What are they gonna do, grab all the drinks before I get two in my hands? Shoot me with a fucking beanbag?
Please, I challenge anyone that witnesses me doing this to pull that off, as my sides would be in orbit

[Farquaar]

What are they gonna do, grab all the drinks before I get two in my hands? Shoot me with a fucking beanbag?
Please, I challenge anyone that witnesses me doing this to pull that off, as my sides would be in orbit

>Barkeep scatters drinks on the counter instead of making them to order
Also failrp

[cacogen]

Bartender shoots you in the liver to protect the alcohol

[usnpeepoo]

trials should happen sometimes, but those are impossible on LRP anyways so this is the useless kind of feedback.

That’s what makes me so sad. We used to have trials on Sybil a few years back when I first started playing. But since Manuel, we’ve seen the following:

1. Regular Servers saw a drop in willingness to RP
2. Designated MRP server became a wannabe-HRP hugbox

I wish I had statistics or evidence to back up what I’m feeling, but I’m trying my hardest to keep my nostalgia glasses off here.

hey hey I had a trial a couple rounds back on sybil (course, that's like a month ago with how often I play haha) where I was a mediborg and professional lawyer to a man just trying to spread the truth
trials on sybil are few and far between but god are they enjoyable when they actually happen - I just think you need people to actually push for them to occur. Be the one to push for it. (eg: hop or hos or cap)

thank you for making sure that everybody knew that he was the traitor for some reason i couldn't speak at random times due to hardcore character roll that was an awesome round since it was insane trying to explain how a prisoner who killed me when i was a monkey, and almost killed the hos in interrogation with a desword but was stopped by me and him.