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terranaut wrote:

Autismal wrote:Funny how a guy offhandedly says a word not directed at anyone who could even be identified as part of that identity gets a banned despite the rule clearly stating "It is not our goal to create or enforce a list of banned words" but an admin outright and directly calling a half black man a nigger and refusing to acknowledge or apologize gets absolutely no form of punishment nor warning from the head of staff. and a fellow community member who stalked him for months and intentionally antagonized him to collect all the original "evidence" against him then goes on a rant about how "halfies" deserve no claim to feel oppressed is also again outright ignored by the admins. I guess he doesn't have enough melanin to warrant justice.

remember when the new rule was introduced and a bunch of people said it was a shit rule and would lead to this kind of situation and they were laughed at
yeah lol

oranges wrote: man if only someone was willing to stand up for bigots and racists.

Hmm I wonder why nobody would do that???

oranges wrote:No, just aware that if society bans clowns and you make a libertarian speech forum that also allows clowns you'll end up with 7 million clowns and 3 die hard libertarians.

saprasam wrote:

chesse20 wrote:if someone used a transphobic slur in my discord i'd tell them to write a 6 page essay on the trangender rights movement and mute them until they finished it and sent it to me but the tgstation discord isn't my discord

this makes everything worse just by doing this
you are stupid

oranges wrote: man if only someone was willing to stand up for bigots and racists.

BONERMASTER wrote:

oranges wrote: man if only someone was willing to stand up for bigots and racists.

Hmm I wonder why nobody would do that???

Scared?

cacogen wrote:

saprasam wrote:

chesse20 wrote:if someone used a transphobic slur in my discord i'd tell them to write a 6 page essay on the trangender rights movement and mute them until they finished it and sent it to me but the tgstation discord isn't my discord

this makes everything worse just by doing this
you are stupid

I think they want to educate them on the issues they know nothing about to try to increase the likelihood that they drop the bigotry but like me these people can't read and they also have no interest in learning about things they've already decided to hate, unless it's cherrypicked anecdotes that confirm their biases (like what you see posted off-topic on 4chan daily). At the same time though even if the expectation were realistic forcing people to accept your point of view as fact (even if it is) obviously doesn't work. You need to persuade them or at least try to find some common ground. And the issue isn't transgenderism, the issue is internalised shame and social stigma.

Jaredfogle wrote:

cacogen wrote:

saprasam wrote:

chesse20 wrote:if someone used a transphobic slur in my discord i'd tell them to write a 6 page essay on the trangender rights movement and mute them until they finished it and sent it to me but the tgstation discord isn't my discord

this makes everything worse just by doing this
you are stupid

I think they want to educate them on the issues they know nothing about to try to increase the likelihood that they drop the bigotry but like me these people can't read and they also have no interest in learning about things they've already decided to hate, unless it's cherrypicked anecdotes that confirm their biases (like what you see posted off-topic on 4chan daily). At the same time though even if the expectation were realistic forcing people to accept your point of view as fact (even if it is) obviously doesn't work. You need to persuade them or at least try to find some common ground. And the issue isn't transgenderism, the issue is internalised shame and social stigma.

the idea is theyre people you could keep perma banned without losing any sleep. the essay is just in the rare chance they're really dedicated

Rohen_Tahir wrote:

Jaredfogle wrote:

cacogen wrote:

saprasam wrote:

chesse20 wrote:if someone used a transphobic slur in my discord i'd tell them to write a 6 page essay on the trangender rights movement and mute them until they finished it and sent it to me but the tgstation discord isn't my discord

this makes everything worse just by doing this
you are stupid

I think they want to educate them on the issues they know nothing about to try to increase the likelihood that they drop the bigotry but like me these people can't read and they also have no interest in learning about things they've already decided to hate, unless it's cherrypicked anecdotes that confirm their biases (like what you see posted off-topic on 4chan daily). At the same time though even if the expectation were realistic forcing people to accept your point of view as fact (even if it is) obviously doesn't work. You need to persuade them or at least try to find some common ground. And the issue isn't transgenderism, the issue is internalised shame and social stigma.

the idea is theyre people you could keep perma banned without losing any sleep. the essay is just in the rare chance they're really dedicated

Did you forget to switch accounts or are just both uplinked to the Ameritard hivemind?

cacogen wrote:

BONERMASTER wrote:Scared?

If you lived up to the values represented by the character in your avatar you wouldn't be here.

BONERMASTER wrote:

cacogen wrote:

BONERMASTER wrote:Scared?

If you lived up to the values represented by the character in your avatar you wouldn't be here.

Watch out, I think a throwing knife is coming your way-

Super Aggro Crag wrote:This is what u get when u let people into your community

cacogen wrote:we post in a community

Jaredfogle wrote:i don't think we lose anything perma banning these types of people

Rohen_Tahir wrote:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaanywaaaaaaaaaays...

Jaredfogle wrote:i don't think we lose anything perma banning these types of people

So a person holding certain views invariably excludes the possibility of that person's participation in this community being a net positive for the community? Very interesting, please elaborate on your thought process.

oranges wrote:

Rohen_Tahir wrote:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaanywaaaaaaaaaays...

Jaredfogle wrote:i don't think we lose anything perma banning these types of people

So a person holding certain views invariably excludes the possibility of that person's participation in this community being a net positive for the community? Very interesting, please elaborate on your thought process.

no need, just observe the results as we are seeing them live right now and notice that neither tinodrima or blurbo have ever offered a net positive

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh its not that they "hold certain views", it's a lack of basic decorum. You can have whatever views you want and nobody cares until you start spouting them.

Shouting MONDAYS MONDAYS MONDAYS MONDAYS does nothing other than telling others "ignore me, my head was used as a basketball during my youth".

oranges wrote:

Rohen_Tahir wrote:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaanywaaaaaaaaaays...

Jaredfogle wrote:i don't think we lose anything perma banning these types of people

So a person holding certain views invariably excludes the possibility of that person's participation in this community being a net positive for the community? Very interesting, please elaborate on your thought process.

no need, just observe the results as we are seeing them live right now and notice that neither tinodrima or blurbo have ever offered a net positive

Rohen_Tahir wrote:

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh its not that they "hold certain views", it's a lack of basic decorum. You can have whatever views you want and nobody cares until you start spouting them.

Shouting MONDAYS MONDAYS MONDAYS MONDAYS does nothing other than telling others "ignore me, my head was used as a basketball during my youth".

Being british is not an argument.

oranges wrote:No, just aware that if society bans clowns and you make a libertarian speech forum that also allows clowns you'll end up with 7 million clowns and 3 die hard libertarians.

Rohen_Tahir wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:This is what u get when u let people into your community

This is definitely one of the posts ever made on the tgstation forums at https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/.

So then I guess it's safe to say that everyone else saying "tranny" and "nigger" also hold prejudice against transsexuals and black people

you just straight up admitted that this is indeed a targeted ban, rather than a comprehensive enforcement of a vague rule.

And no, I don't hold serious prejudice against trans people, I've held conversations with trans members in the channel just fine without insulting or degrading them.

I think I should be able to say slurs along with everyone else because when shitposting in the Shitposting With Politics channels, Shitpost as the Shitposters do, unless slurs are against the rules which I was under the impression they weren't.

Also, I've received this image lately, referencing me as a "halfie". I take offense to that so could you go ahead and remove this member from the community. I am sure there are other biracial members in the community who do not appreciate being belittled for their race.

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:

Rohen_Tahir wrote:

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh its not that they "hold certain views", it's a lack of basic decorum. You can have whatever views you want and nobody cares until you start spouting them.

Shouting MONDAYS MONDAYS MONDAYS MONDAYS does nothing other than telling others "ignore me, my head was used as a basketball during my youth".

Being british is not an argument.

Man what

IkeTG wrote:

saprasam wrote:

chesse20 wrote:if someone used a transphobic slur in my discord i'd tell them to write a 6 page essay on the trangender rights movement and mute them until they finished it and sent it to me but the tgstation discord isn't my discord

this makes everything worse just by doing this

explain how

saprasam wrote:

IkeTG wrote:

saprasam wrote:

chesse20 wrote:if someone used a transphobic slur in my discord i'd tell them to write a 6 page essay on the trangender rights movement and mute them until they finished it and sent it to me but the tgstation discord isn't my discord

this makes everything worse just by doing this

explain how

>le forced 2 do something that they hate
>goes & complains on 4chan and goes "wtf trannies bad"
>stigma against trans people increases in certain communities (da vocal minority!!) which causes shit
there's your reason
just fuckin ban them or whatever same thing but forcing somebody to do something to get back in is and always will be annoying in my mind

Malkraz wrote:playing Elite Dangerous should be a bannable offense

saprasam wrote:

IkeTG wrote:

saprasam wrote:

chesse20 wrote:if someone used a transphobic slur in my discord i'd tell them to write a 6 page essay on the trangender rights movement and mute them until they finished it and sent it to me but the tgstation discord isn't my discord

this makes everything worse just by doing this

explain how

>le forced 2 do something that they hate
>goes & complains on 4chan and goes "wtf trannies bad"
>stigma against trans people increases in certain communities (da vocal minority!!) which causes shit
there's your reason
just fuckin ban them or whatever same thing but forcing somebody to do something to get back in is and always will be annoying in my mind

Screemonster wrote:

Malkraz wrote:playing Elite Dangerous should be a bannable offense

our punishment is having to play elite dangerous

Coconutwarrior97 wrote:

Screemonster wrote:

Malkraz wrote:playing Elite Dangerous should be a bannable offense

our punishment is having to play elite dangerous

the only reason im able to get into it is VR and my friend helped me get started, i had it a few years back but never really got into it

mining with a podcast on or exploring deep space is quite comfy, just did some runs to get engineering mats and am mining to get an anaconda setup for exploration with my friends once odyssey comes out

IkeTG wrote:

saprasam wrote:

IkeTG wrote:

saprasam wrote:

chesse20 wrote:words

you had this long and this is what you came up with? go to the back of class

chesse20 wrote:Why aren't your digg meme arrows green?

Qustinnus wrote:why dont we just ban blurbo too and then everything is resolved

Vekter wrote:

cacogen wrote:It's strange that /tg/station hasn't tried to implement space. Then I could have a game I actually enjoy to listen to podcasts to.

Is halfie offensive because it implies half-black or half-white?

trollbreeder wrote:

cacogen wrote:It's strange that /tg/station hasn't tried to implement space. Then I could have a game I actually enjoy to listen to podcasts to.

Is halfie offensive because it implies half-black or half-white?

what