Jackrip complaint peenut

[jackrip]

This has turned into the classic coders v players. coders usually think whatever oranges says, and the players usually go for the opposite of that

[Armhulen]

maybe if c*ders would make the game fun people wouldn't be tempted to murderbone

Two thoughts on this in a really messy post: it's really hard to untangle current systems without the idea of gutting anything and starting from the bottom (we can't just remove a department and a massive gutting calls to remove more). And the other thought is that Essentially we're trying to offer years and years of content when obvs that's incredibly impossible as that's something only mobas have done with mechanics focused on stretching game time for reward as thin as possible in intentionally addictive ways

[saprasam]

god dude you dont need to make an entire case on why you murderbone about "the good of the community" just say that it's fun as fuck to mow down entire crowds

psa: you can also substitute skill for game knowledge sometimes

[Armhulen]

I'd rather players maintain a healthy relationship with the game and quit/take breaks when needed instead of trying to force themselves to squeeze a little more dopamine out of the game with unhealthy tactics

[thehogshotgun]

Most of the coders we got are fucking losers like edgelordexe, holy fuck I hate that guy motherfucker fucked up miner. How? There was an issue with people bringing medipens to the station, and multiple prs were open making it so medipens weren’t able to be used on station. Fuck titles his Pr middle ground or some gay shit and just nerfed medipens as a whole motherfucker has melting cheese for a fucking brain I know this is the literal embodiment of “rent free” but Jesus Christ I despise him

[chesse20]

This has turned into the classic coders v players. coders usually think whatever oranges says, and the players usually go for the opposite of that

this implies you are playing the game and are therefore a player; but your idea of engaging with the game is just killing everyone else and then getting out of your computer chair and doing fortnite dances; but there's way more game mechanics and social interactions to be had than just turning 32x32 sprites horizontal by clicking on them and making 30 people have to alt tab for half an hour.

[saprasam]

This has turned into the classic coders v players. coders usually think whatever oranges says, and the players usually go for the opposite of that

but your idea of engaging with the game is just killing everyone else and then getting out of your computer chair and doing fortnite dances

that is just a low blow

[thehogshotgun]

This has turned into the classic coders v players. coders usually think whatever oranges says, and the players usually go for the opposite of that

this implies you are playing the game and are therefore a player; but your idea of engaging with the game is just killing everyone else and then getting out of your computer chair and doing fortnite dances; but there's way more game mechanics and social interactions to be had than just turning 32x32 sprites horizontal by clicking on them and making 30 people have to alt tab for half an hour.

Another Korol victim also lol do you have a gif pfp that’s fucking cringe!

[mrmelbert]

i swear i make half the server sit in time out for 25 minutes for their own good, man

[carshalash]

Spoiler:

[2019-01-20 11:28:47.164] SAY: 11:28:47.164] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "You are a huge fucking faggot" (Medbay Central (91, 104, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:50.659] SAY: 11:28:50.659] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "seriously" (Medbay Central (91, 103, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:54.150] SAY: 11:28:54.150] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "this is the gayest thing you can do" (Medbay Central (94, 103, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:57.633] SAY: 11:28:57.633] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you need a ban" (Central Primary Hallway (102, 114, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:32.770] SAY: 11:29:32.770] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "its on yoru rules" (Central Primary Hallway (115, 115, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:34.304] SAY: 11:29:34.304] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you faggot" (Central Primary Hallway (106, 114, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:38.130] SAY: 11:29:38.130] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "too late" (Medbay Central (99, 108, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:41.309] SAY: 11:29:41.309] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "if an admin gets on" (Medbay Central (99, 108, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:43.285] SAY: 11:29:43.285] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you are getitng bannedf" (Medbay Central (97, 104, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:48.425] SAY: 11:29:48.425] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "whats asn admin?" (Medbay Central (97, 105, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:55.546] SAY: 11:29:55.546] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "an admin is someone who runs the server" (Central Primary Hallway (122, 116, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:59.434] SAY: 11:29:59.434] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "what's a server" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 126, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:30:01.548] SAY: 11:30:01.548] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "this is a space staiton bud" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 126, 2))

Hey lois, remember that time I detained jackrip when he was murderboning and cremating bodies and he pulled this shit for the "Good of the community".

[jackrip]

god dude you dont need to make an entire case on why you murderbone about "the good of the community" just say that it's fun as fuck to mow down entire crowds

psa: you can also substitute skill for game knowledge sometimes

communities come together when someone has died

maybe if c*ders would make the game fun people wouldn't be tempted to murderbone

imagine if we had traitor items that weren't built around murdering people and also weren't restricted behind being a clown

this implies you are playing the game and are therefore a player; but your idea of engaging with the game is just killing everyone else and then getting out of your computer chair and doing fortnite dances; but there's way more game mechanics and social interactions to be had than just turning 32x32 sprites horizontal by clicking on them and making 30 people have to alt tab for half an hour.

Uhhh lemme get my quote from earlier

there's just so much vitriol at this point, the admins seem to have become completely blind to everything I do that isn't murderboning. I do my job, I help new players, I make friends and I try to be an active part of the community. I murderbone, but I murderbone as painlessly as possible. Yet here I am, burned at the stake with zero evidence or stats, just pure blind hatred.

[jackrip]

Spoiler:

[2019-01-20 11:28:47.164] SAY: 11:28:47.164] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "You are a huge fucking faggot" (Medbay Central (91, 104, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:50.659] SAY: 11:28:50.659] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "seriously" (Medbay Central (91, 103, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:54.150] SAY: 11:28:54.150] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "this is the gayest thing you can do" (Medbay Central (94, 103, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:57.633] SAY: 11:28:57.633] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you need a ban" (Central Primary Hallway (102, 114, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:32.770] SAY: 11:29:32.770] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "its on yoru rules" (Central Primary Hallway (115, 115, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:34.304] SAY: 11:29:34.304] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you faggot" (Central Primary Hallway (106, 114, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:38.130] SAY: 11:29:38.130] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "too late" (Medbay Central (99, 108, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:41.309] SAY: 11:29:41.309] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "if an admin gets on" (Medbay Central (99, 108, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:43.285] SAY: 11:29:43.285] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you are getitng bannedf" (Medbay Central (97, 104, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:48.425] SAY: 11:29:48.425] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "whats asn admin?" (Medbay Central (97, 105, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:55.546] SAY: 11:29:55.546] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "an admin is someone who runs the server" (Central Primary Hallway (122, 116, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:59.434] SAY: 11:29:59.434] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "what's a server" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 126, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:30:01.548] SAY: 11:30:01.548] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "this is a space staiton bud" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 126, 2))

Hey lois, remember that time I detained jackrip when he was murderboning and cremating bodies and he pulled this shit for the "Good of the community".

classic 2019 jackrip. also amazing that you kept that for 2 years

[Capsandi]

I'd rather players maintain a healthy relationship with the game and quit/take breaks when needed instead of trying to force themselves to squeeze a little more dopamine out of the game with unhealthy tactics

This point would be valid if traitors & lings were given a challenge outside of murdering as many crewmen as they can. You dont need to be burnt out to find that greentexting is piss easy. Then its back to "how many people can I kill with a toolbox?"

[Qbmax32]

bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate

[Kendrickorium]

it's entirely to do with players like jackrip, and people like you wesoda24

we have fucking 7 years of data to back it up

holy shit call a deathsquad you turboautist

do you even play this game or just make derogatory comments on the forum

[ShibaInuLord]

bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate

yeah when will he reach me

[saprasam]

bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate

[jackrip]

bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate

i feel pretty good about this thread we have gotten a lot accomplished. lets review
1.

[ShibaInuLord]

it's entirely to do with players like jackrip, and people like you wesoda24

we have fucking 7 years of data to back it up

holy shit call a deathsquad you turboautist

do you even play this game or just make derogatory comments on the forum

you should know already lol

[Armhulen]

I'd rather players maintain a healthy relationship with the game and quit/take breaks when needed instead of trying to force themselves to squeeze a little more dopamine out of the game with unhealthy tactics

This point would be valid if traitors & lings were given a challenge outside of murdering as many crewmen as they can. You dont need to be burnt out to find that greentexting is piss easy. Then its back to "how many people can I kill with a toolbox?"

Dude I'd be totes down on making greentext harder fuck yeah

[Kendrickorium]

bro please stop you've hit rock bottom already and you just keep digging. we're gonna get to china by the end of this thread at this rate

i feel pretty good about this thread we have gotten a lot accomplished. lets review
1.

it got pretty good once the coders came in and started whining

[RaveRadbury]

So, does murderbone make for a healthy round, or?

[jackrip]

So, does murderbone make for a healthy round, or?

does wizard make for a healthy round

[NoxVS]

So, does murderbone make for a healthy round, or?

does wizard make for a healthy round

no to both

[TWATICUS]

bro stop we dont need another 'remove wiz' discussion dont mention wizard please

[Qbmax32]

but what if we


removed wizard

[jackrip]

bro stop we dont need another 'remove wiz' discussion dont mention wizard please

Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.

[Qbmax32]

Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.

[Kendrickorium]

Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.

such amazing contributions to this thread
give this man some applause people

[RaveRadbury]

So, does murderbone make for a healthy round, or?

bro stop we dont need another 'remove wiz' discussion dont mention wizard please

Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.

Don't see their ckey on the graph, bruhddy

[Qbmax32]

Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.

such amazing contributions to this thread
give this man some applause people

better then salivating all over my keyboard during my daily hour of computer time in the psyche ward

[Jaredfogle]

this goes to show how unentertaining the note is compared to the actual consequences of murderbone. apparently not everyone realized that its a quote from the post we're meant to be peanutting

[Kendrickorium]

Twaticus is well known for murderboning, valid hunting, and power gaming. I especially see them during my timeslot where I am often one of only two or three admins, the EST mornings. During this time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing or adminning, I will see Twaticus at the core of the conflict. If they're an antag, then a lot of people are dying/dead. If not, then they are usually one of the biggest threats to the antagonists. It was to absolutely no one's surprise when Twaticus killed virtually everyone during the round in question following the tradition of another killing spree, while only talking to complain about something or to vent their minor irritation in deadchat between revivals as a changeling. This was at both the station and the evac shuttle.

such amazing contributions to this thread
give this man some applause people

better then salivating all over my keyboard during my daily hour of computer time in the psyche ward

I can't really respond as I have no fucking clue who you are

[Armhulen]

Um points fingers together I like wizard doe 😊

[jackrip]

alright lets think about this
1. wizard is expected to murderbone, a non murderboning wizard is a waste of the role
2. i will start telling everyone i am a wizard round start when im antag
3. i am pure clean and untainted by your opinions of whether murdering the whole crew is good

[Malkraz]

jackrip stop trying to justify playing like a cocksucker lmao it's like trying to explain the morality of piracy, just do it if u want to but ur not "helping" anybody.
the rest of u eternally seethe about how you somehow can't beat 1 person when there's fucking 27 of you and an AI. SS13 players have some of the worst gamesense i've ever seen in any game and will often just hold W down 1 tile wide maint hallways after someone with slips and a gun then get confused when they get blasted. If all you Ghost mains do is shit ur pants in the forum u will never be able to prevent people from dumpstering you. Combat in this game is not difficult and a single well used fire extinguisher can completely cuck murderboning, not to mention all the rest of the infinitely more effective tools.

[TheFinalPotato]

Honestly if murderboning is this unfun, why don't you rule 1 ban for it? Don't make it like, explicitly against the rules, since all that does is cause people to rules lawyer what is and isn't murderboning, "I promise Mr Yogmin I only killed one mime, I'm innocent", but if someone is consistently ruining the game for everyone else they should stop or be made to stop, right?

This is a social game, winning is having the most people experience an interesting story, not killing everyone 5 rounds in a row with a fireaxe.

Speaking of which, it's not a matter of what items we give people, if there is even a chance of someone getting strong gear some coked up player will roll it and kill the unaware crew. Murderboners don't succeed because none is good enough to oppose them, murderboners succeed because people don't expect to have to gear up and prepare to be jumped at any time by this one guy with an esword/powerfist/fireaxe/gun/quirky unknown tool that will be abused by everyone in 3 weeks. Changing that isn't suddenly making everyone on the station more robust, it's making everyone on the station play your game.

P.S: Fuck you arm, wizard is stupid for similar reasons

[Jaredfogle]

Honestly if murderboning is this unfun, why don't you rule 1 ban for it? Don't make it like, explicitly against the rules, since all that does is cause people to rules lawyer what is and isn't murderboning, "I promise Mr Yogmin I only killed one mime, I'm innocent", but if someone is consistently ruining the game for everyone else they should stop or be made to stop, right?

That's the question I asked in the beginning of the thread but didn't get an answer to:

[wesoda25]

sorry, wizard is soul

[Cobby]

I'd rather players maintain a healthy relationship with the game and quit/take breaks when needed instead of trying to force themselves to squeeze a little more dopamine out of the game with unhealthy tactics

This point would be valid if traitors & lings were given a challenge outside of murdering as many crewmen as they can. You dont need to be burnt out to find that greentexting is piss easy. Then its back to "how many people can I kill with a toolbox?"

You're the one opting into these roles, opting into choosing to take the challenge of killing people until you die, yet not opting into taking other challenges because you only see the objective as something you pass/fail (and consequently choosing the most optimal route) when how you complete these tasks could be interesting as well.

In the murderboners defense though its more "logical" i imagine to have fun at the expense of others rather than challenging/debilitating yourself which may result in you yourself sitting out (even funnier is if you were a murderboner, regulars definitely would not let you leave alive which means you're further discouraged to debilitate/challenge yourself).

[wesoda25]

Spoiler:

[2019-01-20 11:28:47.164] SAY: 11:28:47.164] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "You are a huge fucking faggot" (Medbay Central (91, 104, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:50.659] SAY: 11:28:50.659] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "seriously" (Medbay Central (91, 103, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:54.150] SAY: 11:28:54.150] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "this is the gayest thing you can do" (Medbay Central (94, 103, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:28:57.633] SAY: 11:28:57.633] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you need a ban" (Central Primary Hallway (102, 114, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:32.770] SAY: 11:29:32.770] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "its on yoru rules" (Central Primary Hallway (115, 115, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:34.304] SAY: 11:29:34.304] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you faggot" (Central Primary Hallway (106, 114, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:38.130] SAY: 11:29:38.130] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "too late" (Medbay Central (99, 108, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:41.309] SAY: 11:29:41.309] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "if an admin gets on" (Medbay Central (99, 108, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:43.285] SAY: 11:29:43.285] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "you are getitng bannedf" (Medbay Central (97, 104, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:48.425] SAY: 11:29:48.425] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "whats asn admin?" (Medbay Central (97, 105, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:55.546] SAY: 11:29:55.546] SAY: Jackrip/(Dayton Watson) "an admin is someone who runs the server" (Central Primary Hallway (122, 116, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:29:59.434] SAY: 11:29:59.434] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "what's a server" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 126, 2))
[2019-01-20 11:30:01.548] SAY: 11:30:01.548] SAY: Carshalash/(Amaretto shell 894 - Engineering) "this is a space staiton bud" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 126, 2))

Hey lois, remember that time I detained jackrip when he was murderboning and cremating bodies and he pulled this shit for the "Good of the community".

ALSO LMAO HE HELD ON TO IT FOR TWO YEARS

[NoxVS]

alright lets think about this
1. wizard is expected to murderbone, a non murderboning wizard is a waste of the role

glad we are in agreeance, lets remove it

sorry, wizard is soul

soul has perished in the past, wizard would not be the first time
it would not be the last

[Cobby]

wizard is soul like the singularity, so naturally we need to tie wizardry to the sm.

[Rodey125]

this doesn't look good 😬

Wow is that mr gum disease!!!!

[Malkraz]

Murderboners don't succeed because none is good enough to oppose them

No that's exactly why they succeed. You don't need comparable gear to take them on when you have such a massive difference in numbers and a single smart player can do it with tools you can find out in the open around the station. A fire extinguisher, soap, banana cream pie, flash, sunglasses and a bowman headset make anyone with combat knowledge extremely effective at, at the very least, keeping themselves alive while they inform the rest of the crew about the traitor (which they all promptly ignore because it's happening outside a 5-tile radius of them.) Keep potential problem items like the hand tele, AA cards and RD gear safe and secure and as long as you pay attention (ss13 players will never do this) then you'll always be prepared.

[CoffeeDragon16]

alright lets think about this
1. wizard is expected to murderbone, a non murderboning wizard is a waste of the role

glad we are in agreeance, lets remove it

I WISH but it's config and I doubt any headmins would agree to disable wizard

[Jaredfogle]

dont derail the thread to talking about wizard, at least this conversation that will lead to nothing is actually somewhat more original

[wesoda25]

sorry, wizard is soul

soul has perished in the past, wizard would not be the first time
it would not be the last

maybe try thinking for yourself for once and not being a fucking bowlegged dent headed balance baby you literal npc

[jackrip]

dude holy shit all these coders wanting to remove murderboning and wizard lmao

[NoxVS]

dude holy shit all these coders wanting to remove murderboning and wizard lmao

how do either benefit the server