/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:21 pm**

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 42#p591042

I don’t like jackrip, he’s ruined many an antag round of mine but...for fucks sake man this jannie is such a fucking loser

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:26 pm**

7 minutes between posting of the complaint and posting of the peanut.

Step your game up man

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:27 pm**

jannie conspiracy against jackrip confirmed

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:28 pm**

why am i back in this cesspit

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:30 pm**

wowee that's a bad one

literally just griefing someone using admin tools after getting killed by them

takes me back to the scaredofshadows era

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:31 pm**

Dankasaur wrote:7 minutes between posting of the complaint and posting of the peanut.

Step your game up man

these peanut posters CRACKED

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:36 pm**

this doesn't look good ?

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:12 pm**

whats the complaint about, to busy looking at images

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:31 pm**

absolutely rancid. hope headmins throw the book at him. how turbo owned do you have to be in a space clown videogame to act like this

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:32 pm**

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:whats the complaint about, to busy looking at images

jackrip did station murderbone speedrun any

killed an admin
who then proceeded to knot their shoes for most of the round.

admins fucking with people who killed them is a major no no under the current admins and krusivik has only just come back so I predict they'll get some punishment

but at the same time, low pop or station murderbone is now a frowned upon activity, and they're a gamemaster so I doubt it will be more than a slap over the wrist.

side note people who do that should be careful, this gimmick has run out it's rope and you will be hung at some point.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:33 pm**

oranges wrote:side note people who do that should be careful, this gimmick has run out it's rope and you will be hung at some point.

do what now?

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:35 pm**

good oranges post

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:42 pm**

lmfao I thought fucking a fucking game master would know better than this shit of all people.

Obvious admin abuse, easy complaint.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:01 pm**

i guess sticky won't be the only former game master

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 pm**

Being fat, knotted shoes and massive brain injury is what I expect from someone doing murderbone on lowpop. The admin was just making the roleplay more realistic. No wrongdoing here.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:37 pm**

i lol'd this is textbook

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:39 pm**

admin

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:55 pm**

BONERMASTER wrote:Being fat, knotted shoes and massive brain injury is what I expect from someone doing murderbone on lowpop. The admin was just making the roleplay more realistic. No wrongdoing here.

it'd be fine if he'd decided to do it just because he saw it happening but since he died to the antag in question it's kinda stinky

kinda like how if someone nonantag murders an admin for no reason they're still supposed to get someone else on the team to handle it, adminning in situations where you're personally involved reeks

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:58 pm**

Jaredfogle wrote:i lol'd this is textbook

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:19 pm**

Its been a while since the last open-and-shut "I died so I opened the admin panel" ticket

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:51 pm**

Ignoring that the admin got killed by the murderboner everytime is see a complaint like this I don't get why an ERT isn't spawned.

Smiting murderboners dosen't get players back into the round and removes agency from players.

Using admin powers this way is pure spite and only benefits the admins colossal god complex.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:07 am**

07:39:53 SAY Jackrip/(Korol Konets) (DEAD) "if someone is an antag" (106, 171, 2) Armory
07:39:57 SAY Jackrip/(Korol Konets) (DEAD) "and they are murderboning" (106, 171, 2) Armory
07:40:04 SAY Jackrip/(Korol Konets) (DEAD) "don't intervene until there are more dead than alive" (106, 171, 2) Armory
07:40:06 SAY Jackrip/(Korol Konets) (DEAD) "and if you do intervene" (106, 171, 2) Armory
07:40:15 SAY Jackrip/(Korol Konets) (DEAD) "make ghost roles / interns etc, get people back into the game" (106, 172, 2) Armory

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:08 am**

chocolate_bickie wrote:Ignoring that the admin got killed by the murderboner everytime is see a complaint like this I don't get why an ERT isn't spawned.

cause admins cant use their powers on round they played in

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:10 am**

BONERMASTER wrote:Being fat, knotted shoes and massive brain injury is what I expect from someone doing murderbone on lowpop. The admin was just making the roleplay more realistic. No wrongdoing here.

it was apparently somewhere in the 30-40 poprange which is more like mediumpop then anything

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:11 am**

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:
chocolate_bickie wrote:Ignoring that the admin got killed by the murderboner everytime is see a complaint like this I don't get why an ERT isn't spawned.

cause admins cant use their powers on round they played in

yeah but spawning an intern squad is marginally better and arguably not even bad at all (on a round that you played in) rather than just following them around spamming smite on them

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:40 am**

I somehow think we're missing critical info on this.

If we're not, then it's definitely sus.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:58 am**

Vekter wrote:I somehow think we're missing critical info on this.

If we're not, then it's definitely sus.

thats why we watch in anticipation

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:15 am**

Vekter wrote:I somehow think we're missing critical info on this.

If we're not, then it's definitely sus.

The round ID is in the appeal check the logs yourself, tell me if I missed some critical piece of information

Like how it was valid because it's korol

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:25 am**

fucking with an antag as admin after they killed you is lame

but jackrip is also lame

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:35 am**

jackrip wrote:
Vekter wrote:I somehow think we're missing critical info on this.

If we're not, then it's definitely sus.
The round ID is in the appeal check the logs yourself, tell me if I missed some critical piece of information

Like how it was valid because it's korol

Hey, can you tell me what it's like having me live rent-free in your head?

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:39 am**

NoxVS wrote:fucking with an antag as admin after they killed you is lame

but jackrip is also lame

this is the dilemma we all come to face

however this was lamer, quite a bit lamer. in fact it extended past jackrip

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:47 am**

saprasam wrote: it was apparently somewhere in the 30-40 poprange which is more like mediumpop then anything

Why use vague numbers when the information is publicly available?

https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/156540

https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/1565 ... _end_stats

https://sb.atlantaned.space/deaths/round/156540
Here statbus says that Korol's the murder suspect of 20 deaths in a round that had 27 deaths, of 27 players, in a round that lasted just under 42 minutes.

I'm not going to logdive to find out how many of those suspected murders are actually his kills, but of 26 other players he's presumably involved in 20 of their deaths. If anything, I'm more surprised that I don't see a bigger trend of players leaving for the duration, as a ling going around using multiple identities to kill people off is pretty boring, but maybe people were having fun fighting back...?

https://sb.atlantaned.space/rounds/1565 ... for_combat

... Oh, armblade did over 8x the melee damage of everything else that entire round... despite the smites being done...

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:36 am**

I'm not going to logdive to find out how many of those suspected murders are actually his kills, but of 26 other players he's presumably involved in 20 of their deaths. If anything, I'm more surprised that I don't see a bigger trend of players leaving for the duration, as a ling going around using multiple identities to kill people off is pretty boring, but maybe people were having fun fighting back...?

I'd like to come to my own defense as my lawyer quit yesterday, I told everyone I was a ling shift start and then started running around the halls with my armblade out the whole time. I think I changed identities because I was trying to see if transform would remove my fatness and other issues, but I was clearly recognizable with an armblade while covered in blood and dressed the same the whole shift.

Also that damage by item page is neat.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:06 am**

jackrip wrote:Like how it was valid because it's korol

definitely a valid reason for most admin abuse tbh

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:31 am**

The peanut has more views than the complaint.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:28 am**

I will proceed to take what Krusvik has said out of context for the purpose of humor:

...
am i funny yet??

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:24 am**

Qbmax32 wrote:
Tlaltecuhtli wrote:
chocolate_bickie wrote:Ignoring that the admin got killed by the murderboner everytime is see a complaint like this I don't get why an ERT isn't spawned.

cause admins cant use their powers on round they played in
yeah but spawning an intern squad is marginally better and arguably not even bad at all (on a round that you played in) rather than just following them around spamming smite on them

thats if you are an admin that was not playing the round, we dont let players respawn as golem and harass their assassin, why would the admin have the right to do this? imagine if someone in their ban appeal used '' he was low pop boning (30 pop isnt low pop but ok ) so its fine to ick ock, respawn in or even use cheats'' without a thid party jannie to agree

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:37 am**

Krusvik better have some rock solid reasoning.

Spawning an intern squad doesn't work. It's a reward. A solid murderboner will just view it as an additional challenge and overcome it. It isn't a punishment to unlock the higher difficulty mode for a level.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:47 am**

FloranOtten wrote:Spawning an intern squad doesn't work. It's a reward. A solid murderboner will just view it as an additional challenge and overcome it. It isn't a punishment to unlock the higher difficulty mode for a level.

Maybe it's not a bad thing to reward players with a second chance and the boner with a challenge? Not everything mildly annoying needs to be stomped out?

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:51 am**

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:
FloranOtten wrote:Spawning an intern squad doesn't work. It's a reward. A solid murderboner will just view it as an additional challenge and overcome it. It isn't a punishment to unlock the higher difficulty mode for a level.
Maybe it's not a bad thing to reward players with a second chance and the boner with a challenge? Not everything mildly annoying needs to be stomped out?

All rewarding them does is ensure it happens again. The nature of ERTs mean that there's no chance they actually win. A few players get another chance to get absolutely shat on, the boner gets more gear and a challenge for the effort. It only helps the murderboner, prevents the round ending (and the players rejoining the game) for another bit, and sends entirely the wrong message. And this isn't just some mildly annoying thing like "oh, pen is out of ink.". Lowpop murderboning removes (in this case) 27 people from the game for up to an hour for the enjoyment of one.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:10 am**

It's always been fun to bwoink(At an appropriate lull in the action) whoever is murderboning with a "You've been doing well, would you like to turn on hard mode?" and if they say yes start pumping interns or ERT in. Be it blobs or traitors it's usually met with gusto unless there is a special circumstance like wanting to hijack. If you want to turn the action way up you can always use this as an excuse to give an appropriate amount of gear to the traitor as well and possibly even give them a posse to even the scales!(With their consent of course)

I agree that murder-boning isn't always fun to deal with but it's a protected right under rule 4 "Antags do antags things with no limits and green text is meme text". Low-pop murder-boning is discouraged but not disallowed but a pattern for doing this will usually be met with a fireside chat to try and help find some other ways to have fun as an antag on low-pop. For context I think of low-pop as under 10-15 players but it is by no means a hard rule and I don't think there is any hard precedent for an actual number. If anything it's relative to the servers average player base over a given time.

On a personal note I find it much more satisfying to be taken down gloriously. To struggle and lose valiantly. There is a special moment when you know you've lost but you can get some final licks in, a few final screams into the crowd before a last charge. Murder-boning increases the chance of these treasured moments by a fair amount.

Anyways those are my peanuts thank you for coming.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:25 am**

FloranOtten wrote:All rewarding them does is ensure it happens again. The nature of ERTs mean that there's no chance they actually win. A few players get another chance to get absolutely shat on, the boner gets more gear and a challenge for the effort. It only helps the murderboner, prevents the round ending (and the players rejoining the game) for another bit, and sends entirely the wrong message. And this isn't just some mildly annoying thing like "oh, pen is out of ink.". Lowpop murderboning removes (in this case) 27 people from the game for up to an hour for the enjoyment of one.

27 people is hardly "low pop". My take is that murderbone is gameplay - there's a server specifically designed for if you HATE murderboning with a passion. It's not like they're breaking the server, they just happen to be good at the combat mechanics of the game and it's imo a dick move to say "fuck you, I don't think your take of the game is valid".

Especially where wizard is a role where you're given entirely unbalanced mechanics and basically encouraged to commit a small scale genocide - but it's suddenly a big song and dance when you do it as an antag with significantly less power behind them.

And this is coming from someone who is downright horrible at combat, even if it's partly due to having a constant 200 ping.

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:30 am**

every round someone murderbones and 27 pop becomes 13 real quick just saying, and giving them more funnies to fight literally doesn't help at all

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:32 am**

And you clowns say manuel is the hugbox server.

If u get killed validly on one server just log onto one of the other 3 lmao don't cry to the jannies to have the antag smote

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:34 am**

Super Aggro Crag wrote:And you clowns say manuel is the hugbox server.

If u get killed validly on one server just log onto one of the other 3 lmao don't cry to the jannies to have the antag smote

he didn't cry to the janny he was the janny

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:38 am**

FloranOtten wrote:27 people from the game for up to an hour for the enjoyment of one.

If I'm murderboning I call the shuttle as soon as it can be called. Usually everyone's dead by 20 min anyways

I don't recall, I don't destroy consoles, I call at 23 minutes on the dot. This usually keeps pop from dropping too hard

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:50 am**

Screemonster wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:And you clowns say manuel is the hugbox server.

If u get killed validly on one server just log onto one of the other 3 lmao don't cry to the jannies to have the antag smote
he didn't cry to the janny he was the janny

If no one eve ahelped or I BORED in deadchat then its even more Big Gay and the purplenamed retards defending this fucking goonstation style of adminning should lose their position too in my opinion

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:19 am**

Armhulen wrote:every round someone murderbones and 27 pop becomes 13 real quick just saying, and giving them more funnies to fight literally doesn't help at all

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i'd put more arrows but then they'd delete my post as spam

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:26 am**

i m taking 13 people who dont rage quit over 27 hubbies who die to 1 person

Posted: **Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:32 am**

Armhulen wrote:every round someone murderbones and 27 pop becomes 13 real quick just saying, and giving them more funnies to fight literally doesn't help at all

Hence bagils pop issues.

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