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not wilchen peanut

Post by terranaut » #593559

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28675
Why you think you should be unbanned:
As you probably know already, Wilchen was a terrible player. I have no idea how I came up with the exactly same name as a player that was permabanned, but I can assure you I'm a completely different person.
How would a new player know this? Really makes me think.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Boris » #593561

I don't think they're Shezza but I highly doubt that this is their first account.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Farquaar » #593562

In theory, when he saw the ban reason he could have looked up who Wilchen was.

The appearance thing is too suspect though. You don’t just accidentally play a white-haired catgirl named Sherrie Williams by pure chance.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Nervere » #593563

What a braindead ban. That's not Wilchen.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by wesoda25 » #593564

Boris wrote:I don't think they're Shezza but I highly doubt that this is their first account.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Nervere » #593565

Farquaar wrote:In theory, when he saw the ban reason he could have looked up who Wilchen was.

The appearance thing is too suspect though. You don’t just accidentally play a white-haired catgirl named Sherrie Williams by pure chance.
Yes, you do. It's a randomly generated name.
Sherri: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... /first.txt
Williams: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... s/last.txt

When Shezza made his character name, it was randomly generated from a character on Yog.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Eskjjlj » #593566

If it's not Shezza then it's an impostor....
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Nervere » #593567

Kinda sus!
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Re: not wilchen peanut

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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by pugie » #593569

The initial permaban was a farce anyways because eskjjlj wasn't permad too - I say they get a royal pardon.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by wesoda25 » #593570

pugie wrote:The initial permaban was a farce anyways because eskjjlj wasn't permad too - I say they get a royal pardon.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by terranaut » #593571

kinda lame if you're doing it yourself
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by saprasam » #593572

there is 1 impostor among us
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Agux909 » #593573

I sincerely hope noone defending this alleged alt has a subjective opinion and personal attachment/relationship with the owner of the banned ckey.

Cause that would be hella

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Re: not wilchen peanut

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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Eskjjlj » #593575

To be fair I did talk with the impostor Sherrie Williams in-game and she doesn't seem to be talking the same way as the original.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by pugie » #593577

WOW ESKJJLJ ENGAGES ERP WITH YET ANOTHER PLAYER WHO GETS PERMABANNED WHEN WILL IT END!!!!???!!
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Eskjjlj » #593578

pugie wrote:WOW ESKJJLJ ENGAGES ERP WITH YET ANOTHER PLAYER WHO GETS PERMABANNED WHEN WILL IT END!!!!???!!
Just a coincidence... Nothing sus here!
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Re: not wilchen peanut

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Affectionate cat of death.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Fatal » #593582

Sherri is in the random name list but Sherrie is not, so it's actually impossible to get it as a random name, no?
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #593583

i dont like shezza
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Timberpoes » #593584

Nervere wrote: Yes, you do. It's a randomly generated name.
Sherri: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... /first.txt
Williams: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... s/last.txt

When Shezza made his character name, it was randomly generated from a character on Yog.
Nervere wrote:catgirl named Sherrie Williams
Nervere wrote:Sherrie Williams
Nervere wrote:Sherrie
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Re: not wilchen peanut

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Re: not wilchen peanut

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Nervere wrote:What a braindead ban. That's not Wilchen.
this just proves it
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Naloac » #593592

My stance on this is that it is wilchen just so we can hold qbmax to his word
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Nervere » #593594

CoffeeDragon16 wrote:
Nervere wrote:What a braindead ban. That's not Wilchen.
this just proves it
You must base bans on evidence, not your feelings.
CID and IP data will prove that they are not the same person.
Coconut said there's a "database link", which is in all likelihood due to most Polish ISP's being dynamic.
See for yourself: check the TGDB page of a Polish player, and you will see they likely have 100+ logged IP addresses, far more than their American counterparts.
This doesn't hold true for all Polish players as it varies per ISP, but it does for most. I've had to unban several Polish ckeys in the past for this same reason.

Now - is Executies Polish? I don't know, it's a possibility. I'm operating off of limited info here.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by pugie » #593596

This seems like a self report voting white.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by CoffeeDragon16 » #593597

Nervere wrote:
CoffeeDragon16 wrote:
Nervere wrote:What a braindead ban. That's not Wilchen.
this just proves it
You must base bans on evidence, not your feelings.
CID and IP data will prove that they are not the same person.
Coconut said there's a "database link", which is in all likelihood due to most Polish ISP's being dynamic.
See for yourself: check the TGDB page of a Polish player, and you will see they likely have 100+ logged IP addresses, far more than their American counterparts.
This doesn't hold true for all Polish players as it varies per ISP, but it does for most. I've had to unban several Polish ckeys in the past for this same reason.

Now - is Executies Polish? I don't know, it's a possibility. I'm operating off of limited info here.
this just proves it
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Agux909 » #593601

Nervere wrote: You must base bans on evidence, not your feelings.
CID and IP data will prove that they are not the same person.
Now - is Executies Polish? I don't know, it's a possibility. I'm operating off of limited info here.
But Nervere!
Shouldn't you take a more sceptical/objective approach to your assumption and instead say "CID and IP data could prove that they're not the same person"?
After all you're operating off of limited info, as you said. How are you so certain that this will not be the case?

Or maybe you know this relatively new player personally and can vouch for them?
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Sparkezel » #593605

pugie wrote:This seems like a self report voting white.
Walter White?
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by cacogen » #593606

I've seen this Shezza guy mentioned a lot here no clue how they attained such notoriety anyway hope he's unbanned
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by terranaut » #593611

Agux909 wrote:
Nervere wrote: You must base bans on evidence, not your feelings.
CID and IP data will prove that they are not the same person.
Now - is Executies Polish? I don't know, it's a possibility. I'm operating off of limited info here.
But Nervere!
Shouldn't you take a more sceptical/objective approach to your assumption and instead say "CID and IP data could prove that they're not the same person"?
After all you're operating off of limited info, as you said. How are you so certain that this will not be the case?

Or maybe you know this relatively new player personally and can vouch for them?
here's a conversation roughly as it could have happened between nervere and shezza
nervere: "hey shezza see this appeal? is this you?"
shezza: "no"

i know this might be difficult for you to come to on your own, thats why i spelled it out for you.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Nervere » #593612

Agux909 wrote:
Nervere wrote: You must base bans on evidence, not your feelings.
CID and IP data will prove that they are not the same person.
Now - is Executies Polish? I don't know, it's a possibility. I'm operating off of limited info here.
But Nervere!
Shouldn't you take a more sceptical/objective approach to your assumption and instead say "CID and IP data could prove that they're not the same person"?
After all you're operating off of limited info, as you said. How are you so certain that this will not be the case?

Or maybe you know this relatively new player personally and can vouch for them?
I'm confident the raw data will exonerate him because I've spoken to Wilchen about it and I know it's not him.
Was this post supposed to be a "gotcha?" Christ.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Ayy Lemoh » #593614

terranaut wrote: here's a conversation roughly as it could have happened between nervere and shezza
nervere: "hey shezza see this appeal? is this you?"
shezza: "no"
Yeah, I'm sure no one lies on the internet. Hell, if you wanna take it to extremes then I'm especially sure that friends would never lie to each other at all too.

tl;dr not an argument in any situation

EDIT: In case you haven't started replying, I just think any other method is better for determining a connection to shezza than literally asking shezza. Even if shezza could never tell a lie, you really need more than that unless this is a court system that says innocent until proven guilty (which I believe we couldn't be considered as one for various reasons)
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Agux909 » #593615

terranaut wrote: here's a conversation roughly as it could have happened between nervere and shezza
nervere: "hey shezza see this appeal? is this you?"
shezza: "no"

i know this might be difficult for you to come to on your own, thats why i spelled it out for you.
Thank you for clarifying this for me, I am certainly not in my smarter days. Oh dear, the embarrassment.
Nervere wrote: I'm confident the raw data will exonerate him because I've spoken to Wilchen about it and I know it's not him.
Was this post supposed to be a "gotcha?" Christ.
Not at all! It hurts me for you to think I would do something like that. I was just surprised you would reach such conclusion so quickly. It just sounded a bit... subjective for me.
Apologies if it seemed like I was trying to "getcha" with my post.
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Post by Cobby » #593617

it's not shezza but its certainly someone larping as her and it would have been more plausible to say you saw her in a video and wanted to replicate the character instead of just pretend like you rolled Sherrie, rolled Wilchen, and rolled similar hair in both color and shape. I dont believe that for a second.

Now why they were banned when they were following rules...
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Nervere » #593619

Agux909 wrote: Not at all! It hurts me for you to think I would do something like that. I was just surprised you would reach such conclusion so quickly. It just sounded a bit... subjective for me.
Apologies if it seemed like I was trying to "getcha" with my post.
Sorry man, sometimes I find myself giving too much of a shit about this ultimately meaningless online drama BS.
I hope you have a good day.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by IkeTG » #593621

im sherrie williams and this is my favorite peanut on the citadel
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Re: not wilchen peanut

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Why did this Shezza guy do to capture hearts and minds like this? Are they a girl?
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cacogen wrote:Why did this Shezza guy do to capture hearts and minds like this? Are they a girl?
be friends with a lot of people
be enemies with even more
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Post by cacogen » #593628

Thanks for the quick rundown hi Shezza if you're reading
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Sparkezel wrote:
pugie wrote:This seems like a self report voting white.
Walter White?
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Post by Farquaar » #593639

cacogen wrote:Why did this Shezza guy do to capture hearts and minds like this? Are they a girl?
PM’d Crag and told him to kill himself when he was depressed
Sent mutilated animal pictures to Sticky because “lol its so funny”
Among other things
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by pugie » #593640

cacogen wrote:Why did this Shezza guy do to capture hearts and minds like this? Are they a girl?
They sodomised a catgirl in permabrig using a stun baton (turned off at first).
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Farquaar wrote:
cacogen wrote:Why did this Shezza guy do to capture hearts and minds like this? Are they a girl?
PM’d Crag and told him to kill himself when he was depressed
Sent mutilated animal pictures to Sticky because “lol its so funny”
Among other things
They sound like they have BPD
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Post by Flatulent » #593654

honestly this isnt even close to what was happening on terry in october 2020, so we should unban shezza and let them rape catgirls all day long on the condition that they stay on manuel
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by XivilaiAnaxes » #593667

Honestly, Nervere logging in out of nowhere to say "Yo this isn't my mate" and the ban appeal saying "Wilchen is a really bad player you know it but I am not him" really gives me that "yeah right" feel.

The freshness of the forum account does little to help.

https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/ckey/executie

That is a LOT of rounds per day, not damning data but a bit strange.

Also, as stated before - Sherrie is not autogenerated. You could potentially make the case that they randomed Sherri Williams (and incredibly unlikely - the probability of this is ~0.000175% as there are 571000 different random combinations) and then decided to add the 'E' onto the end, but it's odd that they would do that on the exact round and not after a round or two with "Sherri".

Just combining the math between "Nervere forum posts" and the probability required for the name to be random doesn't do this guy any favours. He's someone's alt at the very least.

Oh and I've completely ignored "Similar IC appearance". And then lying that they changed said appearance lmao. Come on dude at least try to argue you liked the look and not flat out lie. Everyone knows randomised appearances are ugly as sin nobody sticks with them.
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Tlaltecuhtli » #593671

i dont think whilchen would be retarded enough to play same name when ban evading lol it would be easier to just appeal ban
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Re: not wilchen peanut

Post by Ayy Lemoh » #593672

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:i dont think whilchen would be retarded enough to play same name when ban evading lol it would be easier to just appeal ban
Didn't they already try to appeal multiple times?
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