manuel doxing his bf peanut

Tlaltecuhtli · Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:45 am

lol
ttps://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28900&view=unread#unread

Not-Dorsidarf · Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:26 am

your linky is a stinky

Flatulent · Post by **Flatulent** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:48 am #597340

there’s 1 imposter among us

Screemonster · Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:50 am

If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking

Post by **oranges** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:45 am #597348

depends on how much they revealed to others but yeah, I don't see it being a permaban offence myself if they just said their age, current admin team treat any personal information incident like a us marine seeing an oilfield though.

Qustinnus · Post by **Qustinnus** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:01 pm #597349

In the end we banned an erp manuel player so it's a win.

Post by **oranges** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:17 pm #597351

we didn't get the other one though, so it's a net cancel

BONERMASTER · Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:20 pm

"Our characters dated in the game"

That was your first and last mistake

Tlaltecuhtli · Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:26 pm

what are adult DMs? adult dungeon masters?

Post by **Mothblocks** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:14 pm #597355

oranges wrote:depends on how much they revealed to others but yeah, I don't see it being a permaban offence myself if they just said their age, current admin team treat any personal information incident like a us marine seeing an oilfield though.

basically my thoughts. my bet is they're just trying not to create a slippery slope of what personal information is okay to divulge and what isn't. more or less agree with scree monster as well.

chesse20 · Post by **chesse20** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:16 pm #597356

so they outed a minor's age because said minor was knowingly lying about their age and erping with adults, and instead of giving the person who outed them a gold medal that said "not a pedophile" and sending the outed persons ckey to citadel and every erp server, the admin in charge just let the minor go so they could find another adult to erp with?

???????? this is sus like the imposter from among us

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28900
topic link since op broke it

terranaut · Post by **terranaut** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:23 pm #597357

chesse20 wrote:so they outed a minor's age because said minor was knowingly lying about their age and erping with adults, and instead of giving the person who outed them a good medal that said "not a pedophile" and sending the outed persons ckey to citadel and every erp server, the admin in charge just let the minor go so they could find another adult to erp with?

???????? this is sus like the imposter from among us

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28900
topic link since op broke it

this

XivilaiAnaxes · Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:23 pm

lmfao he literally just said how old some guy was after said guy told him that's not even an actual fucking dox what

"FULL STOP THIS IS A BIG DEAL!"

Tlaltecuhtli · Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:55 pm

DOX ALERT: NEXT TO POST IS 12

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Agux909 · Post by **Agux909** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:27 pm #597362

Tlaltecuhtli is 12. Wait does that mean I doxxed him and now I eat a permaban??

Honestly surprised about this final ruling by Coco. Truly banbot mentality times.

Sad.

chocolate_bickie · Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:47 pm

Agux909 wrote:Tlaltecuhtli is 12. Wait does that mean I doxxed him and now I eat a permaban??

Honestly surprised about this final ruling by Coco. Truly banbot mentality times.

Sad.

It's the curse of the multiple term headmin. The stress slowly rots your brain.

Post by **Misdoubtful** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:12 pm #597365

Screemonster wrote:If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking

If I was at the bar drinking with someone and I found out they were a minor I wouldn't set the entire bar on fire when I found out, I'd just find someone else to drink with.

BONERMASTER · Post by **BONERMASTER** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:17 pm #597367

Misdoubtful wrote:
Screemonster wrote:If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking
If I was at the bar drinking with someone and I found out they were a minor I wouldn't set the entire bar on fire when I found out, I'd just find someone else to drink with.

And?

Post by **Armhulen** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:17 pm #597368

Misdoubtful the drinking age is usually higher than age of consent in most modern countries so how about instead I ask you: if you matched with someone on tinder and they said they were underaged...

Would you report it?

Would you call it doxxing??

Post by **Armhulen** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:19 pm #597369

Please don't e date people on space station 13

You're worth more than that

Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:19 pm

according to 1 (one) google search (probably completely innacurate but a close-ish guess) around 885,000 americans share the same birth date as any other american

why do we give a shit about someone revealing someone else's age (especially if it's just year) when they're a fucking minor trying to """get in a relationship""" (read: erp) with a fucking adult
you're not """doxxing""" someone if you have to somehow sieve between them and 885k other people in one country to try and determine who they are

I think this could've been handled better by just telling an admin about this and then leaving it at that/not talking to other users about it other than "it was a rule violation" if teegee is so anal about this, but come the fuck on
perming a user after they openly say "damn I don't want to date a fucking minor" is dentheaded

Post by **Misdoubtful** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:22 pm #597371

BONERMASTER wrote:
Misdoubtful wrote:
Screemonster wrote:If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking
If I was at the bar drinking with someone and I found out they were a minor I wouldn't set the entire bar on fire when I found out, I'd just find someone else to drink with.
And?

I think this could've been handled better by just telling an admin about this and then leaving it at that/not talking to other users about it

Pot stirrers get tossed into the stew.

Post by **Armhulen** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:24 pm #597372

Is this really a digg tier "play stupid games win stupid prizes" like cmon now

Tlaltecuhtli · Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:39 pm

Misdoubtful wrote:
Screemonster wrote:If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking
If I was at the whore house sexing with someone and I found out they were a minor I wouldn't set the entire whore house on fire when I found out, I'd just find someone else to sex with.

manuelmin moment

Post by **Misdoubtful** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:52 pm #597375

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:
Misdoubtful wrote:
Screemonster wrote:If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking
If I was at the whore house sexing with someone and I found out they were a minor I wouldn't set the entire whore house on fire when I found out, I'd just find someone else to sex with.
manuelmin moment

I appreciate your very insightful commentary.

Armhulen wrote:Misdoubtful the drinking age is usually higher than age of consent in most modern countries so how about instead I ask you: if you matched with someone on tinder and they said they were underaged...

Would you report it?

Would you call it doxxing??

Reporting it isn't the same as going on their social media page and telling everyone they are on Tinder underage. Then turning around and acting surprised when it turns into a fire.

Post by **Armhulen** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:05 pm #597376

You're taking the whole "someone almost making you a sex offender" pretty well

If you honestly think about what's worse for the community, you'll find it's always the kid getting into e relationships with adults. No reason that person shouldn't be underage b& right now

BONERMASTER · Post by **BONERMASTER** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:09 pm #597377

The dude disclosed this only to the person that snooped after him, after they asked what was going on between the two. That person then ran to the nearest admin and told on them, and landed him in the slammer. How do your anologies fit into this sequence of events? Because at least to my untrained, non-jannie eye, they don't.

Eskjjlj · Post by **Eskjjlj** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:11 pm #597378

Manuelmins never change

Post by **Misdoubtful** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:39 pm #597379

Armhulen wrote:You're taking the whole "someone almost making you a sex offender" pretty well

If you honestly think about what's worse for the community, you'll find it's always the kid getting into e relationships with adults. No reason that person shouldn't be underage b& right now

You're right as a general rule of thumb there is no reason they shouldn't have been banned. That's just trouble no one wants, and a rule that would be dangerous to be partial with.

But there also is no reason for someone go around starting fires about them being underage instead of just discretely reporting it and getting it over with. Revealing private information on the internet publicly that was previously hidden is the definition of doxxing.

I'm not defending either of them, they both made poor decisions.

MortoSasye · Post by **MortoSasye** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:46 pm #597380

I'm biting my nails on this topic because I can't say anything without leaking adminbus

Post by **Misdoubtful** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:48 pm #597383

MortoSasye wrote:I'm biting my nails on this topic because I can't say anything without leaking adminbus

Same, honestly.

Post by **NoxVS** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:12 pm #597387

Misdoubtful wrote:
MortoSasye wrote:I'm biting my nails on this topic because I can't say anything without leaking adminbus
Same, honestly.

I don’t even remember what from this incident I remember from before I was an admin and what I learned after. My pre-admin gossip is mixed up with my post-admin knowledge and now I don’t know what I can say that isn’t leaking

Screemonster · Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:18 pm

Misdoubtful wrote:
Screemonster wrote:If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking
If I was at the bar drinking with someone and I found out they were a minor I wouldn't set the entire bar on fire when I found out, I'd just find someone else to drink with.

saying "yo, don't serve that kid, it's a kid" is a pretty far cry from setting the entire bar on fire

and given the kinds of things that have come from minors getting chummy with adults online, it's not a subject that should be thrown away so lightly
all it takes is one parent to look over their kid's shoulder, not give a shit about whether the person on the other end knows they're talking to a minor, and next thing you know chris hansen's asking you to take a seat right over there

Post by **Misdoubtful** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:36 pm #597390

NoxVS wrote:
Misdoubtful wrote:
MortoSasye wrote:I'm biting my nails on this topic because I can't say anything without leaking adminbus
Same, honestly.
I don’t even remember what from this incident I remember from before I was an admin and what I learned after. My pre-admin gossip is mixed up with my post-admin knowledge and now I don’t know what I can say that isn’t leaking

Yeah, I'm just going to elect to not say anything else about what happened.

Qustinnus · Post by **Qustinnus** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:41 pm #597391

Screemonster wrote:
Misdoubtful wrote:
Screemonster wrote:If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking
If I was at the bar drinking with someone and I found out they were a minor I wouldn't set the entire bar on fire when I found out, I'd just find someone else to drink with.
saying "yo, don't serve that kid, it's a kid" is a pretty far cry from setting the entire bar on fire

and given the kinds of things that have come from minors getting chummy with adults online, it's not a subject that should be thrown away so lightly
all it takes is one parent to look over their kid's shoulder, not give a shit about whether the person on the other end knows they're talking to a minor, and next thing you know chris hansen's asking you to take a seat right over there

our players dont need to get warned who not to ERP with seeing as ERP is banned, if they were worried about there being a child they could've privately told a headmin what they found out rather than post it in a metacord for manuel.

IkeTG · Post by **IkeTG** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:27 pm #597393

Qustinnus wrote:
Screemonster wrote:
Misdoubtful wrote:
Screemonster wrote:If the only thing he revealed was "turns out this dude was underage and I'm not comfortable doing dating-RP with a minor" then wtf

if kids are on here trying to get into adults DMs for ERP then they need to be removed for their own protection and that of anyone who doesn't realise it's a literal child they're typefucking
If I was at the bar drinking with someone and I found out they were a minor I wouldn't set the entire bar on fire when I found out, I'd just find someone else to drink with.
saying "yo, don't serve that kid, it's a kid" is a pretty far cry from setting the entire bar on fire

and given the kinds of things that have come from minors getting chummy with adults online, it's not a subject that should be thrown away so lightly
all it takes is one parent to look over their kid's shoulder, not give a shit about whether the person on the other end knows they're talking to a minor, and next thing you know chris hansen's asking you to take a seat right over there

our players dont need to get warned who not to ERP with seeing as ERP is banned, if they were worried about there being a child they could've privately told a headmin what they found out rather than post it in a metacord for manuel.

>He thinks ERP is still banned
coder moment

Tlaltecuhtli · Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:02 pm

do maintainers not even know what they code for?

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:25 pm #597402

unless im missing context i think this is a dumb ban. how is revealing the age of someone doxxing if they told you their age? I'm 19, so are millions of other Americans. If you found my facebook and personal social media and outed my age in that manner i would consider it doxxing but not if i literally gave you my age. i understand how sensitive the admin team is about personal information but this seems like a massive overreaction. If I was mey39 I wouldnt even be apologizing because I think a very strong argument can be made that his ban is not even within the rules.

edit- And if there is more to the story then why has Coconut not indicated as such? Because as far as I can tell, no one has refuted a word of what the guy said meaning he got banned just for saying someone's age which is pretty innocuous particularly given the context in which he said it.

MortoSasye · Post by **MortoSasye** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:10 pm #597403

BeeSting12 wrote:unless im missing context i think this is a dumb ban. how is revealing the age of someone doxxing if they told you their age? I'm 19, so are millions of other Americans. If you found my facebook and personal social media and outed my age in that manner i would consider it doxxing but not if i literally gave you my age. i understand how sensitive the admin team is about personal information but this seems like a massive overreaction. If I was mey39 I wouldnt even be apologizing because I think a very strong argument can be made that his ban is not even within the rules.

edit- And if there is more to the story then why has Coconut not indicated as such? Because as far as I can tell, no one has refuted a word of what the guy said meaning he got banned just for saying someone's age which is pretty innocuous particularly given the context in which he said it.

Today I learned BeeSting is younger than me

XivilaiAnaxes · Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:31 pm

BeeSting12 wrote:If I was mey39 I wouldnt even be apologizing because I think a very strong argument can be made that his ban is not even within the rules.

I mean poor guy is getting his testicles pierced by Coco's huge "I'm headmin lol it's not like you can get this appealed by someone else" stilettos so of course he's gonna go "WAAAAH I'M SORRY I DID A BIG MESS UP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE".

Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:35 pm

Misdoubtful wrote:Pot stirrers get tossed into the stew.

mfw i get told I'm a pot stirrer for trying to suggest a less-open method of telling staff that someone's trying to erp with adults as a child on a server that still calls itself 18+ cant believe it my body and soul are destroyed and cast into the abyss forever

Post by **Misdoubtful** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:44 pm #597406

Omega_DarkPotato wrote:
Misdoubtful wrote:Pot stirrers get tossed into the stew.
mfw i get told I'm a pot stirrer for trying to suggest a less-open method of telling staff that someone's trying to erp with adults as a child on a server that still calls itself 18+ cant believe it my body and soul are destroyed and cast into the abyss forever

I was agreeing with your quote and using it as a response to their 'And?' (why type what someone else already did, right?). Someone going around talking to and telling people about it would be stirring the pot and creating drama.

Armhulen wrote:Please don't e date people on space station 13

You're worth more than that

Can I carbon date you?

Agux909 · Post by **Agux909** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:49 pm #597407

Omega_DarkPotato wrote:
Misdoubtful wrote:Pot stirrers get tossed into the stew.
mfw i get told I'm a pot stirrer for trying to suggest a less-open method of telling staff that someone's trying to erp with adults as a child on a server that still calls itself 18+ cant believe it my body and soul are destroyed and cast into the abyss forever

They weren't calling you a pot stirrer bruh...
They quoted you to emphasize the other invidivual was a pot stirrer.

In any case, breach of trust and snitching =/= doxxing.
We all know doxxing is an extremely severe offense but that doesn't mean anything you want to label as such is irrefutably doxxing, no questions asked and no explanations given.
This is still a shit ruling/precedent and I'm dissapointed in Coco for having such a tunnel vision.

Farquaar · Post by **Farquaar** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:59 pm #597408

Back in my day, a dox meant real names, addresses, the place they went to school/work, etc

Post by **oranges** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pm #597409

I don't think anyone disagrees that the person should have received some correction, I think we just dispute the length and nature of it.

Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:23 pm

oranges wrote:I don't think anyone disagrees that the person should have received some correction, I think we just dispute the length and nature of it.

Yeah really seems like that's what people are on about. I could swear there was a peanut about this before, but I'm not really invested enough to look for it.

Agux909 · Post by **Agux909** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:26 pm #597411

oranges wrote:I don't think anyone disagrees that the person should have received some correction, I think we just dispute the length and nature of it.

Yes oranges. Specifically this part:

Coconutwarrior97 wrote:Though with something as serious as doxxing I have no intention of ever lifting this ban.

IkeTG · Post by **IkeTG** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:34 pm #597412

Armhulen wrote:Please don't e date people on space station 13

make me fucker

XivilaiAnaxes · Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:41 pm

IkeTG wrote:
Armhulen wrote:Please don't e date people on space station 13
make me fucker

ill fold you up into a pretzel when someone "doxxes" you after you tell them your full name, address and send them a full body picture of yourself