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In a bid to make "all voices heard", Youtube announced that it will remove the ability for the plebs to easily identify content that is misinformation, low-quality, or objectionable. This is totally not a bid to remove criticism of large brands and overpromoted narcissists with sensitive egos.

Feel free to drop a dislike on their announcement video if you want. It'll probably be the last time your dislikes will actually mean anything.
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I'd also like to add that EmpLemon predicted this years ago
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netflix did this too years ago and now it's full of shit what a surprise
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This actually sucks. I didn't know making all voices heard meant censoring any opinion of things being bad. Seems like the opposite don't it?
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this'll just serve to further add to the disinformation problem lmao
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Misdoubtful wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:12 pm This actually sucks. I didn't know making all voices heard meant censoring any opinion of things being bad. Seems like the opposite don't it?
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YT wrote:Like counts and comments are still a good way to get a sense of a video’s quality, especially for tutorials and educational videos. This way, users can still see what other viewers’ opinions of videos may be without making creators susceptible to coordinated dislike campaigns and other forms of harassment using the dislike counts.
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coordinate dislike campaigns and harassment are codewords for "pfizer is pissed off their propaganda campaign got disliked because they're run by reptilian sociopaths"
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interesting theory crag I'd love to hear where you're going with it
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Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:10 am interesting theory crag I'd love to hear where you're going with it
youtuber doesn't actually care about "protecting smaller content creators" from "the big bad meanies of the internet" because smaller content creators don't make them money.

large corporations/government enterprises get really, really fucking angry when you tell them "wow this sucks" because they are not accustomed to being questioned and since they put Big Dollarinos into the Youtube they don't want people to have the option to let everyone else knows "yo this video is stanky yo"

same shit happened when fat lady made a netflix special that was all over the platform and it was rancid ass cuz she just kept saying "ayo muh giny stinky dawg, sheit" and so netflix removed all the star ratings in an attempt to con people into watching a shitty standup special because people would no longer be forewarned that damn son it aint good
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Post by oranges » #619282

who fucking cares? since when has anyone looked at the like/dislike counts on anything other than videos they did not like.
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oranges wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:09 pm who fucking cares? since when has anyone looked at the like/dislike counts on anything other than videos they did not like.
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oranges wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:09 pm who fucking cares? since when has anyone looked at the like/dislike counts on anything other than videos they did not like.
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The amount/ratio is unremarkable on 99% of videos. The exceptions are when it's been review bombed and it's clearly not an accurate reflection of the quality of the video or it's one of that avocado guy's videos where it's irrelevant because the idiots will keep hatewatching anyway expecting him to die only for the sheer force of their attention to make him stronger than ever.
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cacogen wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:38 am The amount/ratio is unremarkable on 99% of videos. The exceptions are when it's been review bombed and it's clearly not an accurate reflection of the quality of the video or it's one of that avocado guy's videos where it's irrelevant because the idiots will keep hatewatching anyway expecting him to die only for the sheer force of their attention to make him stronger than ever.
Dislikes are not merely a measure of objective quality. In many cases they operate as a measure of controversiality. It's for people...

...to watch a video with a garbage hot-take, and think "hey, am I insane or is this really stupid?" and then look at the dislikes and realize "oh yeah, I'm not the only one."
...to listen to a politician's propaganda message and think "hey, am I the only one who thinks this is a load of crap?" and then look at the dislikes and realize "oh yeah, I'm not the only one"
...to see a slimy corporation's slick PR advert and think "hey, I think this company is trying to pull a fast one?" and then look at the dislikes and realize "oh yeah, I'm not the only one"
...to have an astroturfed media star shoved in their face and think "hey, is it me or is this guy ruthlessly promoted even though he's an awful person who makes lazy content?" and then look at the dislikes and realize "oh yeah, I'm not the only one"

And I could go on. I would encourage you to watch the EmpLemon video I linked if you'd like a real breakdown of why dislikes are important.
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cacogen wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:38 am The amount/ratio is unremarkable on 99% of videos. The exceptions are when it's been review bombed and it's clearly not an accurate reflection of the quality of the video or it's one of that avocado guy's videos where it's irrelevant because the idiots will keep hatewatching anyway expecting him to die only for the sheer force of their attention to make him stronger than ever.
review bombing is a buzzword made by corporations to justify putting out shitty content. "Oh, those aren't REAL reviews, they don't count!"
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Thumbs up and down is most useful in tech support videos.
It's an easy way to distinguish the bullshit from the legit
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very annoying, youtube keeps removing all forms of viewer-facing rating and evaluation.

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Helios wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:59 pm Thumbs up and down is most useful in tech support videos.
It's an easy way to distinguish the bullshit from the legit
Naw man I saw this awesome computer building tutorial by The Verge it looks totally legit
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:48 pm very annoying, youtube keeps removing all forms of viewer-facing rating and evaluation.

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Why don't they simply block dislikes until you've consumed x amount of the video? It would make it less practical to downvote shit because of the author or what it represents to you instead of the shit itself.
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I recently learned that Youtube co-founder Jawed Karim edited the description of the first video uploaded to Youtube, "Me at the zoo", to comment on Youtube's effective removal of dislikes.

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>youtube removed the dislike option because companies are mad about their shitty videos getting disliked
>users, instead of clicking the thumbs down and moving on, express themselves through the comment system
>youtube comments become even *more* toxic, angry, and abrasive because they're full of people who are pissed off
>companies get asshurt again and disable comments


jee whiz who could have predicted this shit
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its all so tiresome
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This is really dumb, very big shame to see this sort of thing.
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oranges wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:09 pm who fucking cares? since when has anyone looked at the like/dislike counts on anything other than videos they did not like.
I use it to get an idea if a tutorial video is good advice or bad practices.
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Nabski wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:04 pm
oranges wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:09 pm who fucking cares? since when has anyone looked at the like/dislike counts on anything other than videos they did not like.
I use it to get an idea if a tutorial video is good advice or bad practices.
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Post by cacogen » #621378

the idea of that guy editing the zoo video's description that it's going to affect which videos are promoted by the algorithm is wrong i think the impression i got from what i've read was the dislike button is still there and the count is still visible to the creator of the video it's just publicly hidden to avoid dislike bombing
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cacogen wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:13 pm the idea of that guy editing the zoo video's description that it's going to affect which videos are promoted by the algorithm is wrong i think the impression i got from what i've read was the dislike button is still there and the count is still visible to the creator of the video it's just publicly hidden to avoid dislike bombing
Yeah but that's the wrong way around, youtube video creators shouldnt care how many dislikes they get because they get stats like engagement, average watch time, etc, which are actually relevant to anyone trying to make money on that site. Likes/Dislikes are a user-facing interaction
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