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Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:22 am**

Bottom post of the previous page:

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Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:18 am**

ColonicAcid wrote:happy bday maccus as ur present i will now name you nigel.

god bless and thank u!!!

:')

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:24 pm**

Man, HTML is so simple compared to JavaScript I'm actually getting bored instead of frustrated or confused by these lessons. Not that I learned half the shit the JavaScript ones were trying to teach me, but I finished them, and that's what counts, right?

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:27 pm**

EndgamerAzari wrote:Man, HTML is so simple compared to JavaScript I'm actually getting bored instead of frustrated or confused by these lessons. Not that I learned half the shit the JavaScript ones were trying to teach me, but I finished them, and that's what counts, right?

That's because one is a Markup language (Hypertext Markup Language) and the other is a fully fledged programming language.
Of course there's a void of complexity between the two.

JS isn't hard, what is is knowing which of the 70 billion languages the thing you're working with requires you to write the javascript in before it gets turned into JS by a machine
(Coffee script and such)

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:38 pm**

Yeah, I know that, but they're the two things I was told to get familiar with prior to the coursework coming out next month, so I can't help but compare them in terms of complexity (even though they're nothing alike).

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:40 pm**

do PHP while you're at it.

You've got your HTML for markup of a page.
You've got your JS for client side features.
PHP for your server side.

Then you realise Webdev is never just these 3.
it's these 3 and 90 billion things that make you write them differently
(CSS preprocessors like LESS or SASS, templating languages like {{moustache}} and Blade and things that build code for the 3 languages above but aren't themselves those languages like Coffeescript)

Webdev is ass.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:44 pm**

Scripting language

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:47 pm**

Remie Richards wrote:Webdev is ass.

Better than doing this damn job.

Here's what the program curriculum entails:

Spoiler:

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:56 pm**

Yeah that looks fine.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:59 pm**

What I'm most excited about is that I'm not used to using the technical part of my brain. Even with the little practice I've done I can already feel myself thinking in different ways, and I'm pumped to figure out what I can do once I build my mental muscles up a bit.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:04 pm**

Programming is fun ya.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:48 pm**

fuck this gay nerd shit just go do a real science

like biochem

/flex

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:07 pm**

Go do psychology.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:25 pm**

Motherfuckers I already have three degrees

This is my almost-midlife crisis here

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:29 pm**

In sciences you can never be too qualified.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:44 pm**

Well most of my degrees are in what you'd call the Humanities: English (B.A.), Law (JD), and Library Science (Master's). But my brother and father are both engineers and I think this kinda stuff is in my blood. I've always wanted to make things work, and when I was younger I always envisioned myself working with computers. I can't go back to school for a full degree, so a three-month crash course suits my needs pretty well.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:41 pm**

hi I guess I am getting a second degree in math

my first calculus test was today

rip

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:45 pm**

bandit wrote:hi I guess I am getting a second degree in math

my first calculus test was today

rip

a second degree, in maths
or a second degree in maths?

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:50 pm**

You see that:

MATHS, not math.

smh

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:51 pm**

a second degree that happens to be in math

that is assuming I don't fail calculus which is always a possibility

all my spess time is going toward homework

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:55 pm**

I'm sorry for your loss.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:50 pm**

Maybe I should eat more for lunch than beer and protein shakes.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:16 pm**

Given the number of people who come out of Comp sci courses unable to write any code, and the majority of programmers I know being self taught, it really does seem that just getting stuck in is the best method of learning the subject.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:23 pm**

CosmicScientist wrote:I hope your test driven development is more fun than my university's, Azari. It was approached awkwardly since the coursework's specification was too bare bones for the system of making tests then programming to work but I appreciate knowing about it. I imagine it might be better for modifying existing systems than creating something from scratch unless you have a thorough design doc and I'm awaiting the day I don't need to change a unit test after I figure out a better way of coding it that invalids the original test.

(Also I'm jealous that you seem to be learning more than me, grr nine grand a year grr)

I don't think test driven dev is ever fun, it's just necessary

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:14 am**

At my uni compsci was so awful they closed the department last year.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:47 am**

Computing science is just that, the science of computing. All sciences are applied math in a way, but none of them are closer to actual math than computing science. On a very theoretical level, you can mathematically prove properties of algorithms and protocols with the right tools and calculi (such as undecidability, which means that a computer cannot solve a computation deterministically).

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:17 pm**

As you said, all sciences are intrinsically connected to maths, but to state that CompSci is more than others is kinda iffy considering at the base level everything is maths.

You can cut down even biology to pure applied mathematics if you look at it abstractedly, and you can do it even easier with both Chemistry and Physics.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:24 pm**

ColonicAcid wrote:As you said, all sciences are intrinsically connected to maths, but to state that CompSci is more than others is kinda iffy considering at the base level everything is maths.

You can cut down even biology to pure applied mathematics if you look at it abstractedly, and you can do it even easier with both Chemistry and Physics.

The difference is that for sciences like physics and chemistry, math is an end to a means. Computing science deals with how to compute something. It looks at the math itself and asks how it can be deconstructed into simple steps that can be rapidly solved by a machine.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:43 pm**

Meanwhile, sociologists are sitting in back laughing their asses off about how all sciences can be traced back to math.

[youtube]mB97Qe2D4V0[/youtube]

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:57 pm**

Part of why i love microbiology and genetics is that I never have to do any math more complicated than stoicheometry and solution chemistry equations

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:58 pm**

as if more proof were needed that sociology isn't an actual science :^)

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:01 pm**

Thank God that psychology, linguistics, philosophy count.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:07 pm**

Computer degrees are more logic intensive.

If you think there is more math involved in CompSci than something like a Physics degree you're adorable.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:17 pm**

Wyzack wrote:Part of why i love microbiology and genetics is that I never have to do any math more complicated than stoicheometry and solution chemistry equations

Yeah but when you get into super in depth genetics you have to do alot of maths surrounding probabilities and statistical reliability.

Same thing in biochemistry, everyone thinks it's just chemistry with a basis of biology but then the first topics you do as an undergrad is entropy of biological reactions. And I'm not talking about ΔG = ΔH - TΔS either.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:43 pm**

An0n3 wrote:Computer degrees are more logic intensive.

If you think there is more math involved in CompSci than something like a Physics degree you're adorable.

At no point did I claim that CompSci involves more math than Physics. And you do realize that math is applied logic, right? Numerical systems operate on axioms which are defined in logic.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:51 pm**

Nerrrrdddsss

I watched new Top Gear today, it was a bit shit - seems they decided to remake Fifth Gear instead.

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:25 pm**

The internet at work was down from just before I got here until just a couple minutes ago. That's over an hour. Sweet Jesus, I can't imagine what this is gonna cost us.

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:00 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:20 pm**

The DL times on Steam are usually wildly off

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:19 pm**

I paid the deposit and first month's rent for housing for the Software Guild. I'm really doing this.

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:47 pm**

Zilenan91 wrote:The DL times on Steam are usually wildly off

this is my normal internet though

CosmicScientist wrote:snip

steam said it was 51 bytes a second

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:32 pm**

God help me I'm thinking of getting a tattoo

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:38 pm**

I keep thinking of getting one but just end up going "eh, nah"

I kept thinking it'd be funny to get shit like packing labels and those sorts of stark industrial symbols rather than anything like tribal shit or pop culture references

"This way up"
"Do not dispose of in fire"
"made from 100% recycled material"

shit like that

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:41 pm**

I would never pay money to mutilate my body like that.

I'm already enough of a wreck.

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:46 pm**

A mate of mine went to a bodymod place and got a tiny magnet implanted in his little finger, it took only a few weeks before his brain started interpreting the tiny movements it makes when he puts it near metal things and magnetic things and now it's a legit sixth sense. Apparently he could reach out and feel a sort of dome of force around the microwave when it was running, as well as being able to tell whether a drink can is steel or aluminium just by waving his hand past it and shit like that.

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:48 pm**

I doubt I'll actually go through with it, as I change my mind a lot--not to mention the fact that my family would fucking filet me if they found out. I'd probably get something simple, like the period table symbol for Neon on my right shoulder.

Scree, I've heard of people doing that, and while the rational part of me thinks it's phenomenally stupid, the cyberpunk/transhumanist trash in me gets giddy over it. FUUUUTURRRRE

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:59 pm**

Scree, what Azari said.

FUCKING MAGNETS

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:30 pm**

Screemonster wrote:I keep thinking of getting one but just end up going "eh, nah"

I kept thinking it'd be funny to get shit like packing labels and those sorts of stark industrial symbols rather than anything like tribal shit or pop culture references

"This way up"
"Do not dispose of in fire"
"made from 100% recycled material"

shit like that

Barcode on your left arm, if anyone tells tell them its in memory of your jewish great grandad.

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:37 pm**

Transhumanist future is today boys, we are so close to proper cybernetics with sensory feedback i can practically taste it. I wonder how long it will take for the first elective prosthesis surgery to happen

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:38 pm**

i will be ready to fight against the transhumanist filth

stay pure ya fucking animals

get the subshells of neon azari

1s^2 2s^2 2p^6
do it fam

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:47 pm**

Actually it's considered a pretty chic thing to do in meteorologist circles to get a bunch of magnets implanted in your hands. You develop a bunch of weird senses based on their movement that allow you to tell the weather or some shit.

Sounds need but it also sounds like you're going to obliterate your cellphone or any other kind of magnetic storage/electronics you try to handle.

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