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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #236252

I think so
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Post by TheColdTurtle » #236255

Spears and longarms in general are almost always better
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TheColdTurtle wrote:Spears and longarms in general are almost always better
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dont listen to the spear faggot's lies and deception, swords are the pinnacle of melee combat
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Post by Ricotez » #236264

cool yes, practical ehh
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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #236268

Lets get strong and cross blades
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Post by TheColdTurtle » #236271

Kel wrote:
TheColdTurtle wrote:Spears and longarms in general are almost always better
spear faggot detected
dont listen to the spear faggot's lies and deception, swords are the pinnacle of melee combat
Sword slut detected, have fun being impaled before you can even reach me with your puny stick
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TheColdTurtle wrote:Spears and longarms in general are almost always better
They're both good.
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Post by Drynwyn » #236287

The point of swords is that they're pretty good in most situations. The point of a spears and longarms is that they're great in particular situations. Solution: Carry both.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #236290

DONT FUCKING TOUCH SWORDS

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Post by MrEousTranger » #236303

no sowrds are not kewl

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Post by Screemonster » #236343

Drynwyn wrote:The point of swords is that they're pretty good in most situations. The point of a spears and longarms is that they're great in particular situations. Solution: Carry both.
the point of both swords and spears is generally found at the end
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Post by CPTANT » #236348

Swords are ok, but poleaxes are the king of badass.
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Post by Owegno » #236358

Swords are fun. Fighting with swords is also fun. I wish HEMA mace fighting was thing, would be pretty dope.
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Post by Grazyn » #236361

Drynwyn wrote:The point of swords is that they're pretty good in most situations. The point of a spears and longarms is that they're great in particular situations. Solution: Carry both.
^dis

Carry a gladius and a couple javelins and you can fight any kind of foe

Gladius also doubles as home defence weapon and utility tool
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Post by Screemonster » #236365

Swords are also useful as the thing you carry around town or whatever

like you don't live in a fantasy RPG so it's not really practical to go wandering about medieval paris in fullplate with a bec-de-corbin while you do your grocery shopping, same as those nerds who are confused about why bucklers exist when a bigger shield offers more protection and it's like "because you can't just carry a fuckin' scutum around with you while you go to the bar it's hugely impractical"
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Post by 420weedscopes » #236373

yeah swords are pretty good
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Post by Timbrewolf » #236383

>straight swords
>not cutlass/sabre/falchion/scimitar curved sword master race

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Post by Screemonster » #236387

are you one of those warriors from hammerfell
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Post by Aloraydrel » #236388

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Post by Timbrewolf » #236389

Aloraydrel wrote:Mace
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Superior. Smash with one end. Spin it around to punch holes in armor with the other.

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Also good. Go mining for ores in your opponents skull.


The biggest problem with bludgeoning weapons like that is the heft and unwieldly-ness. You need a shield of some sort in your other hand to defend yourself from people swinging swords at you. It's a trade-off. You can't parry sword thrusts and swings very well but neither can they intercept your swings very well with their sword. Trying to block a sword slash with a straight-hafted weapon like that is a good way to lose your fingers. Maces are good for wading in to superior numbers of poorer troops, they don't get stuck in HERETICS like swords or other blades can and they clobber right through whatever shitty leather/thatch/chain armor they might be wearing. You can still easily rattle someone's head with a mace but you need a smaller striking surface if you want to fold in plate mail and break the dude underneath. Hence the pick side, or the smaller strike surface of the warhammer.

With a sword you might impale one peasant but then they turn and fall with your sword stuck in them and you'd be scrambling to yank it back out of them while the others pummel you with whatever pitchforks, rakes, and quarterstaffs they have. With a mace you just cave in heads and break arms, shoulders, ribs, etc until they reconsider not paying their taxes.
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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #236390

I like thrusting sword. I use them in dark soul 2
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Post by Wyzack » #236400

Pssht, curved blades. Whats the point?

Also > he doesn't go grocery shopping in full plate with his bec de corbin

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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #236402

My worst enemy from buffalo used to make fun of me for using thrusting swords but he was a shitter who used great sword and halbers
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Post by Wyzack » #236403

Thrusting swords like rapiers are a classy man's weapon, raphael from soul caliber basically drowning in pussy 24/7. Halberd guy will hack you up at range though unless you are careful
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The greatest weapon is your own body.
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Wyzack wrote:Thrusting swords like rapiers are a classy man's weapon, raphael from soul caliber basically drowning in pussy 24/7. Halberd guy will hack you up at range though unless you are careful
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Wyzack wrote:Thrusting swords like rapiers are a classy man's weapon, raphael from soul caliber basically drowning in pussy 24/7. Halberd guy will hack you up at range though unless you are careful
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CosmicScientist wrote:
Timbrewolf wrote:>straight swords
>not cutlass/sabre/falchion/scimitar curved sword master race

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Falchions may not fit into that. Whilst they can have the notable curved tip with the scooping slice out of their end, like in your picture, I'm not entirely sure if they were ever curved without being a new type of sword. They're pretty much ye olde machete.
It functions on the same principal as other curved swords, weighted for slashes. It really depends on the example you're looking at. Some of them look like longer broadswords with the scoop, while others have a subtle curvature to them. Even the more straight examples usually have a protrusion on the trailing edge which gives more weight to the end. Eg:

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The example in this painting definitely has a curve to it though

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Wyzack wrote:Thrusting swords like rapiers are a classy man's weapon, raphael from soul caliber basically drowning in pussy 24/7. Halberd guy will hack you up at range though unless you are careful
I used to do HEMA rapier stuff, it certainly feels classy to duel someone with. Shame I stop exercising like an idiot and lost a lot of my muscles.
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Post by ColonicAcid » #236476

falchions are weighted to be fucking clubs.


they're less slashing weapons and more fucking club them weapons.


like seriously, falchions are super fucking heavy for a sword and are usually not even sharp. they're an hammer shaped as a sword.
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Post by Timbrewolf » #236493

Uhhh, no?

They weigh about as much as a longsword does.
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Post by ColonicAcid » #236498

They weigh the same as longswords (not really tho, longswords are way lighter imo) whilst being significantly smaller.


they are meat cleavers.

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ColonicAcid wrote:They weigh the same as longswords (not really tho, longswords are way lighter imo) whilst being significantly smaller.


they are meat cleavers.
You're talking about the Conyers falchion, named after the best surviving example of its kind. It weighs just under 3lbs. The blade is 28.9" long.
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It's hard to find a typical longsword because they vary so much but looking at modern samples an average of the same weight specimen has a blade length of 35" and also a longer handle to counterbalance it.

So you're right at least that it's a shorter sword, I wasn't arguing that, but it's the same damn weight. They're not "Super fucking heavy clubs" it's the same fucking weight dude.

Regardless the kind of falchion I'm talking about when I lump them in with other curved swords are the later examples, which initially looked like the picture I posted above (mostly straight, with a cusp to it) and over time became more and more scimitar like:

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It's a product of cross-pollination between Europe and the Middle East. As you get to the end of the 16th century the falchion and scimitar are almost the same damn thing, with the falchion being more like a bigger heavier scimitar with a cusp than the cleaver of the 13th and 14th centuries.
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I wish this didn't have the added musical track, listening to the swords whipping through the air and ringing off eachother is great.
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Post by oranges » #236515

I'd use a crossbow because realistically I'd be a peasant and this would be my best option to fuck up the armoured trained knights.
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Post by firecage » #236525

Super Aggro Crag wrote:My worst enemy from buffalo used to make fun of me for using thrusting swords but he was a shitter who used great sword and halbers
Wait, he made fun of you for using thrusting swords...when he used a Great Sword? Does he even know what a Great Sword was?
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A guts ripoff
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Post by Armhulen » #236538

if you didn't use ricards rapier just GET OUT. JUST GET OUT NOW.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote:A guts ripoff
Crag, just tell him that a Great Sword isn't for slashing and cutting(most of the time anyway). It is for stabbing, kinda like a spear in the form of a sword.
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firecage wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:A guts ripoff
Crag, just tell him that a Great Sword isn't for slashing and cutting(most of the time anyway). It is for stabbing, kinda like a spear in the form of a sword.
>A sword so useless at being a sword you have to use it as a spear and then it's heavy and unbalanced!
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Post by firecage » #236576

oranges. I wouldn't say its heavy or unbalanced. A great Sword, lets take a Zweihander, is at its heaviest 3.5 kilograms, and its fairly well balanced. The real issue is its length. You can't use it in the same way you would use a long sword or any other type of sword. it is just to long. Its main purpose is thrusting.
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Were talking about videogame not society for creative anachronism
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Post by John_Oxford » #237637

the only empire to do swords right was sparta.

short gladius / flexible armor / usable but light shield / disposable spear

throw your spear, use the shield to block enemy spears, cut them up with swords. all while doing it in a fast and graceful manner in your 0.0000000000000000000000001 cm thick copper armor
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Yeah but Spartans fucked boys in the arse.
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Malkevin wrote:Yeah but Spartans fucked boys in the arse.
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John_Oxford wrote:throw your spear
That's movie bullshit.

Spartans had javelins to throw at people but kept their spears as they were essential to fighting in the phalanx formation.

And yeah they really did fuck the shit out of boys. Accounts from multiple philosophs/historians of the era confirm they institutionalized kiddie fiddling.
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