/tg/Station 13

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https://discord.com/channels/326822144233439242/808425762217656330/873235156029300836 wrote:It is time for head coders accept a new paradigm where they sit under the host, as head admins do.

Things can not continue as things once have. I will continue to get frustrated at feeling powerless in matters involving coderbus until that frustration leads me to abandon all protocol, as it did today.

The solution is obvious.

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Armhulen wrote:

terranaut wrote:

Armhulen wrote:page 1 is full of people who merely promise they will merely revisit the game if you just destroy 6 years of work going back to 2015

nobody is asking to destroy anything you can take the code and use it

someone host 2015 station then... wait, we should actually do that. we could turn either bagil or alt codebase into a 2015 server and let it run for awhile.

oh and we don't actually have to host it, someone else could but i don't think there is enough interest for it to crop up on its own

i'm genuinely so jaded from interacting with coders here that i cant tell if you're being genuine or telling me to fuck off and host my own 2015 code if i want to play it
since we're plant pals i'll go with the former and say: the infrastructure is in place, both server and staff, and parts of the server infrastructure go unused
no reason not to do it and gauge player interest

Super Aggro Crag wrote:

terranaut wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:maintain dese nuts

you should've done this instead

hypothetical, better, Super Aggro Crag post wrote:

Kendrickorium wrote:my question is how many people involved in this actually play the fucking game

why don't you play with dese nuts

why don't you doublepost dese nuts

what are you gonna do about it bitch boy

that sounds rad. i can't wait to see shadowlings again.

Armhulen wrote:that sounds rad. i can't wait to see shadowlings again.

we should go back further :o)

terranaut wrote:

Armhulen wrote:that sounds rad. i can't wait to see shadowlings again.

we should go back further )

honestly testing this kind of thing is entirely free because of how git works so yeah why not

edit: retro server when, i propose its name will be badger

terranaut wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:

terranaut wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:maintain dese nuts

you should've done this instead

hypothetical, better, Super Aggro Crag post wrote:

Kendrickorium wrote:my question is how many people involved in this actually play the fucking game

why don't you play with dese nuts

why don't you doublepost dese nuts

what are you gonna do about it bitch boy

call you a beetle

beetle

coderbus is like that one uncle who permanently glues spikes on your bedframe and says "come on, just try it! it'll be comfortable!"

by the way since a lot of people are reading this thread, terranaut is my friend (also known as my plant pal)

i miss plant pal............................

Badger was a brief moment of true SS13 perfection that we can never recapture.

I'd love to try a 2015code SS13 server, again, though, at least for a bit. See the old janky atmospherics when plasma's flashpoint was 273 Kelvin instead of 373 Kelvin or whatever.

Fishimun wrote:LAUNCH /TG/station classic, no changes

you dont want that. you think you do... but you dont

I want Hanna classic...

Malkraz wrote:I want Hanna classic...

wake up bagil is on east coast

bring back stunk gloves

wow this seems like something i would care about if i played/coded still

also a retro server with some changes like the disarm rework and some optimization improvements would be great
I started in 2017 or something so it's not like i know what retro ss13 is like

BONERMASTER wrote:

Rohen_Tahir wrote:

Fishimun wrote:

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:

terranaut wrote:

Timonk wrote:

MrStonedOne wrote:

Denton wrote:

Stickymayhem wrote:I've never seen MSO be wrong about the game or codebase when it comes to fights like this in 8 years

It's his server and I've always been fucking glad of that.

would you like some fries with that boot

How do you expect to communicate and create understanding if people not hating the people you hate causes you to call them a boot licker?

based take

bootlicker

bootlicker

bootlicker

freebooter

This is for you


With beautiful regards
-BONERMASTER

To Whom It May Concern,

Slips severed,
galoshes are yellow shoes
that slow you.

Super Aggro Crag wrote:bring back stunk gloves

bring back no inhand sprite hypospray with instant ko chloral hydrate
unironically

iksyp wrote:also a retro server with some changes like the disarm rework and some optimization improvements would be great
I started in 2017 or something so it's not like i know what retro ss13 is like

jajajajaj NEW you're NEW you're not an OLD TIME PLAYER

Armhulen wrote:>MSO threatens to fork every time an issue comes up
>knowing that this would not work and at the very least cripple the tg community for years to come if it doesn't outright kill it
>still threatening to fork anyways
>bluff called and nuclear options put down
>all of this is going to be remembered as maintainers wanting to fork
>all of this is going to be remembered as maintainers wanting to fork

How else would it be remembered? The maintainers are making it clear they'd rather fork than have MSO become headheadcoder. I would venture to say it would be much more destructive to the server for it to fork than for MSO to give himself head-headcoder, but hell what do I know I don't code. Maybe a coder could shed light on why they think this proposal must be avoided at all costs even if it means pretty much ripping apart TG.

if the first time you played in ss13 isnt a year that ends in "010" ur cringe

sinfulbliss wrote:

Armhulen wrote:>MSO threatens to fork every time an issue comes up
>knowing that this would not work and at the very least cripple the tg community for years to come if it doesn't outright kill it
>still threatening to fork anyways
>bluff called and nuclear options put down
>all of this is going to be remembered as maintainers wanting to fork
>all of this is going to be remembered as maintainers wanting to fork

Spoiler:

How else would it be remembered? The maintainers are making it clear they'd rather fork than have MSO become headheadcoder. I would venture to say it would be much more destructive to the server for it to fork than for MSO to give himself head-headcoder, but hell what do I know I don't code. Maybe a coder could shed light on why they think this proposal must be avoided at all costs even if it means pretty much ripping apart TG.

because coders can't be smug assholes anymore then when they push through unwanted garbage changes
dont get me wrong i realise coders are volunteers and i dont want to shit on volunteers needlessly, but being a volunteer doesn't entitle you to getting your will
or if it does, it means MSO also gets his will on account of being a volunteer

from forum interactions with both oranges and ninja they both seem way too full of themselves and both literally always seems to have had a my way or the highway attitude

maybe its about time MSO told them to both stfu

if this continues both will be full of dicks

alright here are all the correct answers

the next server split being caused in part by a slippery station is objectively the best possible death for /tg/station

this isn't just about emojis in pr titles and the coders cleverly fixating on the silly part is a way to make it seem like it's not about the power struggle that's been going on for years.

this isn't life and death shit and at the end of the day you can still play the game with 10% variation in either direction but coders have been explicitly and proudly shitty to the community for years. not all coders are like this but not all cops shoot people for kicks, the others always line up beside them when they get outside scrutiny though

please wear vegan boots so i can participate

I should add i have no problem with the coders and they should have sway based on the work they put in, but there has to be at least some basic cooperation or communication with the other parts of the community that make the server something actually meaningful to code for. no one would care about a project with zero players, and the game is made both playable and special through admin intervention

Super Aggro Crag wrote:if the first time you played in ss13 isnt a year that ends in "010" ur cringe

suck it crag the first time i played ss13 was in 3010 and immediately stepped into a time machine to send my dumbass back to when it first came about (in 3010 space station 13 is the intergalactic game of choice with all 2592 playable jobs, interactive universe to explore, and complete full-body simulation, also its still buggy and oranges is still head coder but not really)

vegan boots with coding socks

Stickymayhem wrote:alright here are all the correct answers

the next server split being caused in part by a slippery station is objectively the best possible death for /tg/station

this isn't just about emojis in pr titles and the coders cleverly fixating on the silly part is a way to make it seem like it's not about the power struggle that's been going on for years.

this isn't life and death shit and at the end of the day you can still play the game with 10% variation in either direction but coders have been explicitly and proudly shitty to the community for years. not all coders are like this but not all cops shoot people for kicks, the others always line up beside them when they get outside scrutiny though

please wear vegan boots so i can participate

I should add i have no problem with the coders and they should have sway based on the work they put in, but there has to be at least some basic cooperation or communication with the other parts of the community that make the server something actually meaningful to code for. no one would care about a project with zero players, and the game is made both playable and special through admin intervention

Also could coders explain who exactly is going to be the new host if MSO steps down? If it’s not going to be goofball who was true to his naming choice by spoiling everything, who will?
Don’t give me any of this “could be anyone with money and time to pay for a server”, give an actual name.

Flatulent wrote:Also could coders explain who exactly is going to be the new host if MSO steps down? If it’s not going to be goofball who was true to his naming choice by spoiling everything, who will?
Don’t give me any of this “could be anyone with money and time to pay for a server”, give an actual name.

whoever it'll be it can't be a coder because the seperation is absolute

it'll be me

gonna move bagil to east coast (of germany)

Flatulent wrote:Also could coders explain who exactly is going to be the new host if MSO steps down? If it’s not going to be goofball who was true to his naming choice by spoiling everything, who will?
Don’t give me any of this “could be anyone with money and time to pay for a server”, give an actual name.

The implication so far has been that it'd be oranges but he's been out of commission so the coders are weak without their fearless leader

it is time to strike while oranges still has spicy wrists

Now that you mention it i didn’t see that tangerine jackass in a while

What a read. So much anger in this forum.
In any case it seems like the situation has diffused somewhat, as they tend to do.

but will the situation change or will people keep being angry

Its only somewhat diffused because americans were sleeping

People will keep being angry, of course.
A good portion of the users log in here precisely for that. Anger is addictive.
But things will most likely go back to the regular schedule until next time.

Rohesie has made consistently good posts in maintainer-bus can I nominate him for my favorite coder (aside from kylerace who gets first place because he's another member of touhou-containment)

No Rohesie is my favorite coder already get bent

Omega_DarkPotato wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:if the first time you played in ss13 isnt a year that ends in "010" ur cringe

suck it crag the first time i played ss13 was in 3010 and immediately stepped into a time machine to send my dumbass back to when it first came about (in 3010 space station 13 is the intergalactic game of choice with all 2592 playable jobs, interactive universe to explore, and complete full-body simulation, also its still buggy and oranges is still head coder but not really)

why would i suck it future man you're not cringe

Name the new fork slippystation

Super Aggro Crag wrote:

Why is there fat fucking bazonkas in the background of that image?

is that a problem

computer, enhance. enhance.

nah but seriously i stole it off another internet website so don't ban me if the boobs are too big i have bad eyesight

Armhulen wrote:

Shadowflame909 wrote:

Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play

Timonk wrote:If MSO forks i get another chance at coding for tg

this is a good example of a funny promise

I miss ash drake xenobio end game ((

xenobio's been waiting for that special someone to spice it up (and i'm not just talking about slapping a megafauna to the end of the progression)

me.

Coders BTFO, about time

If coders had as little patience dealing with oranges as these maintainers have dealing with MSO, we wouldn’t have any.

Oh and btw tgstation is not only the largest server but also the easiest to get into, MSO does not need to worry about the server dying. If he does give, it’s of his own accord.