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iamgoofball wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:29 pm sorry, he deleted your post in your appeal?

file an admin complaint and contact MSO

dendydoom wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:48 pm

iamgoofball wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:29 pm sorry, he deleted your post in your appeal?

file an admin complaint and contact MSO

The post where Timber overturned their ruling and accepted my appeal and subsequently my response where I thanked them for it were both deleted. I made no further arguments in the post I made that was removed - it was just showing gratitude toward Timber.

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:51 pm Admins never had overturning power, and I don't think Timber ever expected to have that. But there has always been a courtesy expectation that the handling admin's wishes should be valued. Both positively and negatively, in the case of clear admin abuse.

Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:44 pm >at this time we are treating the turnover to headmins and subsequent ruling as a forfeit of overturning rights.

...I dont understand what this means

Archie700 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:26 am I'm very sure this flies in the face of viewtopic.php?f=34&t=32452, which had admins longposting and got more heated than this appeal.
We had appeals that were more hostile than this but got accepted because the admin turned out to be wrong.

RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:37 am Hey, everybody. I've unlocked the thread to allow DendyDoom and Timberpoes to reply. This whole situation turned out to be a bit of a mess, and I'm sorry that it ended up like this. My intent in both of my replies was never to be rude or targeting of DendyDoom, though it seems like it's definitely come off like that. I lost perspective during attempts to sound impartial, and I do want to apologize for my mistake to both DendyDoom and Timber.

After further deliberation, we have decided to reconsider the ruling and allow the issue to resolve between the two originally involved in the appeal, Timber and Dendy. This is a decision that the full headmin team talked about between all three of us and discussed, before making sure with each other that it would be okay to post - this also applied to the original rejection message, which had been talked about in the same fashion.
It may have been a bit rash for me to delete both of your posts and lock the thread - I was afraid of it becoming a bit of a mess, and wanted to sort everything out as best as I could, as the sudden turn was a bit of a shock. In light of this, I've undeleted both of them and unlocked the thread to rectify this.

Essentially, when we talked about the original issue we all made a decision, and then we posted it with the assumption that everything would be fine from there. We didn't expect Timber to overrule it afterward, which is what caused the main amount of confusion and mess - but after some reflection, and the fact that if the original appeal was done without headmin review, this appeal seems like it will be fine to just simply allow to resolve naturally with the decision of Timberpoes and any (if required) further talk to DendyDoom.

Again, I'd like to apologize for how I acted and came across in both cases. My intention was only to be impartial, and I don't think I did the best job coming across as that. I hope that, going forward, we can all avoid situations like this, myself included, and use this appeal as something to reflect upon going forward in both naming policy, headmin interaction and player appeals.

We were also mistaken in asserting that it was in bad faith to write for headmin review. Admin discretion can only be handled by headmins and the only place to handle that are in appeals.

Boot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:13 am They don't get credit for changing their minds after being called jackasses by everyone. Rave is known liar and I have no idea why he keeps getting elected.

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:19 am

Boot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:13 am They don't get credit for changing their minds after being called jackasses by everyone. Rave is known liar and I have no idea why he keeps getting elected.

A solid 85% of all posts of yours I have read have been directly antagonistic with the apparent goal of stirring shit.