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They're gone

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:53 pm
by Pepper

Bottom post of the previous page:

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Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:11 am
by Jacquerel
Can't believe foot guy is gone, we need to hold an IC funeral and all throw our shoes into the coffin

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:39 am
by LEDDDriver
Since when is stealing shoes from catgirls rule 8 break?

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:22 am
by Imitates-The-Lizards
Let's be real here, this isn't about OOC in IC, this is all about telling admins to kill themselves. We're allowed to have persistent friendships between shifts.

This is overall just a really sad situation. It's obvious the players were just really upset about their friend being banned. They were clearly in the wrong, but, if you ask me, not giving them a moment to grieve for their friend when they went out of their way to gather in the chapel for a funeral over it wasn't right either.

I hope they appeal, apologize, and get clemency.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:32 am
by Jacquerel
I mean they were given a moment to grieve, if they hadn't decided to tell people to kill themselves during the funeral then nothing else would have happened.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:37 am
by Imitates-The-Lizards
Jacquerel wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:32 am I mean they were given a moment to grieve, if they hadn't decided to tell people to kill themselves during the funeral then nothing else would have happened.
If that's the case, the OOC in IC bit should be removed from their bans, since it implies it isn't allowed to hold in-game funerals for people and was a factor in their bans.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:14 am
by TheRex9001
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:37 am
Jacquerel wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:32 am I mean they were given a moment to grieve, if they hadn't decided to tell people to kill themselves during the funeral then nothing else would have happened.
If that's the case, the OOC in IC bit should be removed from their bans, since it implies it isn't allowed to hold in-game funerals for people and was a factor in their bans.
Its relevant because whilst the funerals would’ve been overlooked it turned ooc in ic when they started mentioning ckeys

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:16 am
by Imitates-The-Lizards
TheRex9001 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:14 am
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:37 am
Jacquerel wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:32 am I mean they were given a moment to grieve, if they hadn't decided to tell people to kill themselves during the funeral then nothing else would have happened.
If that's the case, the OOC in IC bit should be removed from their bans, since it implies it isn't allowed to hold in-game funerals for people and was a factor in their bans.
Its relevant because whilst the funerals would’ve been overlooked it turned ooc in ic when they started mentioning ckeys
Oh, so it was less "Here lies [character name of person banned], our friend, exiled by the gods/jailed by centcomm, lets not forget him.", and more "Fucking admins banned Sk1wass3r, they should kill themselves."?

Makes sense, then.

At first glance the bans implied they at least tried to keep it IC by yelling at Centcomm, but yeah, I see they call out justice in particular.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:19 am
by dirk_mcblade
TheRex9001 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:14 am
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:37 am
Jacquerel wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:32 am I mean they were given a moment to grieve, if they hadn't decided to tell people to kill themselves during the funeral then nothing else would have happened.
If that's the case, the OOC in IC bit should be removed from their bans, since it implies it isn't allowed to hold in-game funerals for people and was a factor in their bans.
Its relevant because whilst the funerals would’ve been overlooked it turned ooc in ic when they started mentioning ckeys
Do we even really care about mentioning ckeys for the purpose of a permaban? Seems like it ought to be left out entirely since the relevant issue was them telling people to kill themselves.

Ckeys in IC seems like a note at worst.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:24 am
by TheRex9001
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:19 am
TheRex9001 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:14 am
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:37 am
Jacquerel wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:32 am I mean they were given a moment to grieve, if they hadn't decided to tell people to kill themselves during the funeral then nothing else would have happened.
If that's the case, the OOC in IC bit should be removed from their bans, since it implies it isn't allowed to hold in-game funerals for people and was a factor in their bans.
Its relevant because whilst the funerals would’ve been overlooked it turned ooc in ic when they started mentioning ckeys
Do we even really care about mentioning ckeys for the purpose of a permaban? Seems like it ought to be left out entirely since the relevant issue was them telling people to kill themselves.

Ckeys in IC seems like a note at worst.
It would’ve been, but they told people to kill themselves. And by centcom they are referencing the currently online admins in that situation.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:24 pm
by dirk_mcblade
I'll also add that encouraging suicide is illegal in a few states, so maybe don't post illegal shit in the spessman game? Just a thought. But I guess I'm unqualified compared to some of the law school prodigies amongst the player base. I'm just an admin shill, really. I'm on their payroll.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:39 pm
by Timonk
Cyberbullying is illegal in Germany and this qualifies as cyberbullying

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:33 pm
by cSeal
LEDDDriver wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:39 am Since when is stealing shoes from catgirls rule 8 break?
if you do shit like this consistently you better stay the fuck away from feetposting "ironically"
Or better yet, you should be permabanned right away
Image

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:23 pm
by Turbonerd
TheRex9001 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:30 am "Repeated cases of small Rule 8 breaks over the years. You are WAY too horny on main, and people don't play /tg/ to be part of your ERP regarding shoes/feet." what the fuck
No way. That guy was actually awesome. Shoe stealing is now a crime OOCly.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:26 pm
by chocolate_bickie
NecromancerAnne wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:07 am Pr to add 8 graves to every map.
Unban them and force them to dig the holes.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:04 pm
by dendydoom
mrmelbert wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:48 am
Timberpoes wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:24 pm Terry Chapel Incident.
Maybe Terry players aren't so different to Manuel players after all
it took them long enough to catch up...

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:55 pm
by CitrusGender
oranges wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:11 pm Image

for whom the reaper comes
post the correct one

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:49 pm
by Fikou
Atlanta-Ned wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:48 am
zxaber wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:01 am Ignoring everything else, holding funerals for those permabanned is funny and should be encouraged. Just, y'know, leave out the rest.
No, it isn’t. Don’t do this. Don’t encourage it. Do not honor assholes who were removed for being assholes.
despite people not being beneficiary to the health of the server and community, people still had lots of fun times with them, theres nothing wrong with celebrating the good as they ride into the sun.
just dont repeat the thing that got them noted/banned in the first place and expect no consequences.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:19 pm
by MooCow12
Image

This is a renaissance painting

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm
by Annihilite111
Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
by Imitates-The-Lizards
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 pm
by Annihilite111
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647
Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a problem fpr the community.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:06 pm
by Archie700
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 pm
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647
Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a problem fpr the community.
Why would you trust a permabanned player to run

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:17 pm
by Thaumic
Archie700 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:06 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 pm
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647
Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a problem fpr the community.
Why would you trust a permabanned player to run
Do you just believe that all bans are correct

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:19 pm
by Turbonerd
Thaumic wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:17 pm
Archie700 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:06 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 pm
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647
Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a problem fpr the community.
Why would you trust a permabanned player to run
Do you just believe that all bans are correct
If the ban isn't correct then they can just appeal it.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:25 pm
by feaster
Turbonerd wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:19 pm
Thaumic wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:17 pm
Archie700 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:06 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 pm
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647
Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a problem fpr the community.
Why would you trust a permabanned player to run
Do you just believe that all bans are correct
If the ban isn't correct then they can just appeal it.
LOL

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 pm
by Jacquerel
New Headmin: My first act as head admin is to unban myself
Headmin 2: I vote no
Headmin 3: I vote no

then what?

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:38 pm
by conrad
Jacquerel wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 pm New Headmin: My first act as head admin is to unban myself
Headmin 2: I vote no
Headmin 3: I vote no

then what?
Permabanned headmin: *any propisition*
Headmin 2: I vote no
Headmin 3: I vote no

And homie says this is the best for the community lmfao

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:41 pm
by Boot
Archie700 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:06 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 pm
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647
Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a problem fpr the community.
Why would you trust a permabanned player to run
Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:45 pm
by conrad
Boot wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:41 pm
Archie700 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:06 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 pm
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647
Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a problem fpr the community.
Why would you trust a permabanned player to run
Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition.
>democracy

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:13 am
by Turbonerd
Boot wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:41 pm
Archie700 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:06 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 pm
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Annihilite111 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 pm Okay real talk, can permabanned players still run for headmin? Do we actually have any rules against that?
Yes. Headmin election rule 2: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34647
Should be repealed. If someone manages to win the headmin vote while permad they're clearly not a problem fpr the community.
Why would you trust a permabanned player to run
Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition.
Who are you to dictate how the system is ran? No one is going to take your retard takes seriously.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:21 am
by EmpressMaia
stop argueing and eat a garlic bread
Garlic-Bread-close.jpg

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:51 am
by Timonk
Jacquerel wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 pm New Headmin: My first act as head admin is to unban myself
Headmin 2: I vote no
Headmin 3: I vote no

then what?
Host pick is also permabanned

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:11 am
by NoxVS
Boot wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:41 pm Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition.
I feel like you need to realize something. This is a funny spaceman game. We are playing a funny spaceman game. The purpose of the forums, the admins, the discord, the rules, and the elections, is to enable and facilitate us playing a funny spaceman game.

There is no secret shadow government trying to control the playerbase. There are no meetings where we sit in a dimly lit conference room and cackle about our insidious plans to silence our opposition. There is not a single moment of consideration given towards how best to rule with an iron fist. We are here to play a funny spaceman game.

Every instance of potential censorship or overreach or oppression you point out would probably be concerning if done by an actual governing body. Contrary to popular belief, this server is not an actual governing body that wields any kind of authority. We are not recognized by the United Nations as a legitimate state. We are playing a game built on an engine that's older than a significant portion of our playerbase. The reason why we aren't concerned about headmins banning their competition is because we are far more concerned with playing a funny spaceman game to waste time trying to rig the election.

You really want something to complain about? We aren't even a democracy. We are ruled by an absolute dictator who allows us to pretend to hold elections but can at any moment seize control. We could wake up tomorrow to find that our immortal god-king decided to kill the server, ban us from the forums, and kick us out of the discord - And our sole option from there is to find a new dictator to start over with. Do you know why I'm not concerned by this? Because we aren't dealing with geopolitics, we are playing a funny spaceman game.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:20 am
by AsbestosSniffer
NoxVS wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:11 am There is no secret shadow government trying to control the playerbase.
Sounds like something a secret shadow government agent would say...

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:29 am
by iwishforducks
i think permabanned people should be able to run because it’d be funny

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:00 am
by Boot
NoxVS wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:11 am
Boot wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:41 pm Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition.
I feel like you need to realize something. This is a funny spaceman game. We are playing a funny spaceman game. The purpose of the forums, the admins, the discord, the rules, and the elections, is to enable and facilitate us playing a funny spaceman game.

There is no secret shadow government trying to control the playerbase. There are no meetings where we sit in a dimly lit conference room and cackle about our insidious plans to silence our opposition. There is not a single moment of consideration given towards how best to rule with an iron fist. We are here to play a funny spaceman game.

Every instance of potential censorship or overreach or oppression you point out would probably be concerning if done by an actual governing body. Contrary to popular belief, this server is not an actual governing body that wields any kind of authority. We are not recognized by the United Nations as a legitimate state. We are playing a game built on an engine that's older than a significant portion of our playerbase. The reason why we aren't concerned about headmins banning their competition is because we are far more concerned with playing a funny spaceman game to waste time trying to rig the election.

You really want something to complain about? We aren't even a democracy. We are ruled by an absolute dictator who allows us to pretend to hold elections but can at any moment seize control. We could wake up tomorrow to find that our immortal god-king decided to kill the server, ban us from the forums, and kick us out of the discord - And our sole option from there is to find a new dictator to start over with. Do you know why I'm not concerned by this? Because we aren't dealing with geopolitics, we are playing a funny spaceman game.
>It's ok that we're abunch of corrupt shitheads who only care about the rules so long as we can vaguely point to them to get people we don't like banned cause its a spess atmos sim.
When I said that whole "if we're gonna have a vote at all" meme I was appealing to MSO as you lot are already far gone, best I can hope for is next election we either get Keith or Sinful to come in and drain the swamp.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:15 am
by iwishforducks
ur a weird little goblin boot

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:17 am
by feaster
Boot wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:00 am
NoxVS wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:11 am
Boot wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:41 pm Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition.
I feel like you need to realize something. This is a funny spaceman game. We are playing a funny spaceman game. The purpose of the forums, the admins, the discord, the rules, and the elections, is to enable and facilitate us playing a funny spaceman game.

There is no secret shadow government trying to control the playerbase. There are no meetings where we sit in a dimly lit conference room and cackle about our insidious plans to silence our opposition. There is not a single moment of consideration given towards how best to rule with an iron fist. We are here to play a funny spaceman game.

Every instance of potential censorship or overreach or oppression you point out would probably be concerning if done by an actual governing body. Contrary to popular belief, this server is not an actual governing body that wields any kind of authority. We are not recognized by the United Nations as a legitimate state. We are playing a game built on an engine that's older than a significant portion of our playerbase. The reason why we aren't concerned about headmins banning their competition is because we are far more concerned with playing a funny spaceman game to waste time trying to rig the election.

You really want something to complain about? We aren't even a democracy. We are ruled by an absolute dictator who allows us to pretend to hold elections but can at any moment seize control. We could wake up tomorrow to find that our immortal god-king decided to kill the server, ban us from the forums, and kick us out of the discord - And our sole option from there is to find a new dictator to start over with. Do you know why I'm not concerned by this? Because we aren't dealing with geopolitics, we are playing a funny spaceman game.
>It's ok that we're abunch of corrupt shitheads who only care about the rules so long as we can vaguely point to them to get people we don't like banned cause its a spess atmos sim.
When I said that whole "if we're gonna have a vote at all" meme I was appealing to MSO as you lot are already far gone, best I can hope for is next election we either get Keith or Sinful to come in and drain the swamp.
Watch your mouth around the GODS(admins) they are lurking in this very thread, the topic of which shows that they don’t hesistate to crush dissenters en masse.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:23 am
by Constellado
EmpressMaia wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:21 am stop argueing and eat a garlic bread
Garlic-Bread-close.jpg
That bread looks so delicious.

I want it.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:36 am
by dirk_mcblade
Boot wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:00 am
NoxVS wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:11 am
Boot wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:41 pm Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition.
I feel like you need to realize something. This is a funny spaceman game. We are playing a funny spaceman game. The purpose of the forums, the admins, the discord, the rules, and the elections, is to enable and facilitate us playing a funny spaceman game.

There is no secret shadow government trying to control the playerbase. There are no meetings where we sit in a dimly lit conference room and cackle about our insidious plans to silence our opposition. There is not a single moment of consideration given towards how best to rule with an iron fist. We are here to play a funny spaceman game.

Every instance of potential censorship or overreach or oppression you point out would probably be concerning if done by an actual governing body. Contrary to popular belief, this server is not an actual governing body that wields any kind of authority. We are not recognized by the United Nations as a legitimate state. We are playing a game built on an engine that's older than a significant portion of our playerbase. The reason why we aren't concerned about headmins banning their competition is because we are far more concerned with playing a funny spaceman game to waste time trying to rig the election.

You really want something to complain about? We aren't even a democracy. We are ruled by an absolute dictator who allows us to pretend to hold elections but can at any moment seize control. We could wake up tomorrow to find that our immortal god-king decided to kill the server, ban us from the forums, and kick us out of the discord - And our sole option from there is to find a new dictator to start over with. Do you know why I'm not concerned by this? Because we aren't dealing with geopolitics, we are playing a funny spaceman game.
>It's ok that we're abunch of corrupt shitheads who only care about the rules so long as we can vaguely point to them to get people we don't like banned cause its a spess atmos sim.
When I said that whole "if we're gonna have a vote at all" meme I was appealing to MSO as you lot are already far gone, best I can hope for is next election we either get Keith or Sinful to come in and drain the swamp.
Why don't you DM him yourself then? He's not difficult to contact.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:47 am
by dirk_mcblade
It's honestly a weird hill to die on, defending people telling others to kill themselves.
Try talking like that to people in real life and see how that gets received. You'd be speedrunning yourself into being labelled a shithead by nearly anyone who has already graduated highschool.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:51 am
by TheRex9001
Permabanned players can't run because a prisoner who is currently in prison can't run. Its just the rules, also a permabanned player won't be able to actually go onto the game servers until their ban in successfully appealed and that might be an issue for any promotions.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:12 am
by jastindeep
TheRex9001 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:51 am Permabanned players can't run because a prisoner who is currently in prison can't run. Its just the rules, also a permabanned player won't be able to actually go onto the game servers until their ban in successfully appealed and that might be an issue for any promotions.
It would be extremely hilarious nonetheless

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:34 am
by nianjiilical
EmpressMaia wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:21 am stop argueing and eat a garlic bread
Garlic-Bread-close.jpg
i think garlic breading should be the new starsector posting tbh

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:39 am
by Archie700
Boot wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:00 am
NoxVS wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:11 am
Boot wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:41 pm Why would you have any reason to tell the players who they can/can't vote for? Like if you're gonna have a democracy you can't really have a situation where the current headmin bans their competition.
I feel like you need to realize something. This is a funny spaceman game. We are playing a funny spaceman game. The purpose of the forums, the admins, the discord, the rules, and the elections, is to enable and facilitate us playing a funny spaceman game.

There is no secret shadow government trying to control the playerbase. There are no meetings where we sit in a dimly lit conference room and cackle about our insidious plans to silence our opposition. There is not a single moment of consideration given towards how best to rule with an iron fist. We are here to play a funny spaceman game.

Every instance of potential censorship or overreach or oppression you point out would probably be concerning if done by an actual governing body. Contrary to popular belief, this server is not an actual governing body that wields any kind of authority. We are not recognized by the United Nations as a legitimate state. We are playing a game built on an engine that's older than a significant portion of our playerbase. The reason why we aren't concerned about headmins banning their competition is because we are far more concerned with playing a funny spaceman game to waste time trying to rig the election.

You really want something to complain about? We aren't even a democracy. We are ruled by an absolute dictator who allows us to pretend to hold elections but can at any moment seize control. We could wake up tomorrow to find that our immortal god-king decided to kill the server, ban us from the forums, and kick us out of the discord - And our sole option from there is to find a new dictator to start over with. Do you know why I'm not concerned by this? Because we aren't dealing with geopolitics, we are playing a funny spaceman game.
>It's ok that we're abunch of corrupt shitheads who only care about the rules so long as we can vaguely point to them to get people we don't like banned cause its a spess atmos sim.
When I said that whole "if we're gonna have a vote at all" meme I was appealing to MSO as you lot are already far gone, best I can hope for is next election we either get Keith or Sinful to come in and drain the swamp.
PM him then, stop vaguing

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:53 am
by conrad
Boot wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:00 am >It's ok that we're abunch of corrupt shitheads who only care about the rules so long as we can vaguely point to them to get people we don't like banned cause its a spess atmos sim.
When I said that whole "if we're gonna have a vote at all" meme I was appealing to MSO as you lot are already far gone, best I can hope for is next election we either get Keith or Sinful to come in and drain the swamp.
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Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:07 am
by NecromancerAnne
I was going to say 'why would kieth, who seemed like a very level-headed and hands-off headmin, suddenly go turbo nuclear on the administration just because of this nonsense' but actually, we have had former headmins (not during their term, mind) go full nuclear breakdown before. It's not unheard of that someone kind of goes a bit loopy after a particularly nasty incident.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:11 am
by Timberpoes
Kieth had a shot at draining the swamp. He found very little to drain, and he had my full backing the entire way for anything he did see.

He found nothing groundbreaking to leak beyond what everyone already knew - The admin team argues and disagrees about everything in private, there's no such thing as a short discussion and the admin team is exhausting to deal with at times due to it.

That's the honest reality of it all.

Don't call for other players to grief IC, don't do any kys call that could possibly be considered OOC, and then also that could be considered excessively dickish IC.

And as is well known, if you set up a situation where rule breaking is inevitable (like giving away free TTVs as a non antag to random crew) you can be held responsible for it.

Intentional rule breaks get punished harder than accidental or incidental ones.

Mix that with targeted harassment against a specific community member (called out by ckey) and add a dash of chan culture.

We end up with a bunch of players who intentionally fucked around because they didn't expect the admin team to decide this is a zero tolerance line.

This was infact drawn as a zero tolerance line because nobody in this community should have to deal with targeted harassment in or out of the game.

I think it's a good thing and it's not the first time we've dropped permas on people for trying it. I hope it won't be the last, too.

The message being sent with these bans is that this term has a no nonsense approach to harassment of others. Understanding that message is the first step for any of these players to get unperma'd, else they stay permamad.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:46 am
by MooCow12
If I was a fake news media I would make an article with a headline titled "grief stricken gathering verbally lashes out at the accused and gets obliterated for it."

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:39 pm
by Jacquerel
NecromancerAnne wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:07 am I was going to say 'why would kieth, who seemed like a very level-headed and hands-off headmin, suddenly go turbo nuclear on the administration just because of this nonsense' but actually, we have had former headmins (not during their term, mind) go full nuclear breakdown before. It's not unheard of that someone kind of goes a bit loopy after a particularly nasty incident.
I actually was not surprised at all. For better or worse he is a people pleaser, and found himself in a group of people who would be pleased if he lead a chant about suicide.
In my experience it was extremely normal to have Kieth say extremely hostile thing on this forum where other people were doing it, then ask him about it among a different crowd of people on Discord where he would chameleon-like adopt their manner and be very cordial about the same thing.

Re: They're gone

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:25 pm
by Archie700
Jacquerel wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:39 pm
NecromancerAnne wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:07 am I was going to say 'why would kieth, who seemed like a very level-headed and hands-off headmin, suddenly go turbo nuclear on the administration just because of this nonsense' but actually, we have had former headmins (not during their term, mind) go full nuclear breakdown before. It's not unheard of that someone kind of goes a bit loopy after a particularly nasty incident.
I actually was not surprised at all. For better or worse he is a people pleaser, and found himself in a group of people who would be pleased if he lead a chant about suicide.
In my experience it was extremely normal to have Kieth say extremely hostile thing on this forum where other people were doing it, then ask him about it among a different crowd of people on Discord where he would chameleon-like adopt their manner and be very cordial about the same thing.
We really need some examples on that