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another deadmin wave

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:32 pm
by kinnebian

Bottom post of the previous page:

if theres one thing this headmin team is doing a lot of it, its retiring admins
chadley got caught in this one which is quite sad
though ive noticed a few of them dont have retiremin roles on discord? theyll miss the movie nights!

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:10 pm
by Archie700
MooCow12 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm Is that meant to be passive aggressive or super duper ominous and foreshadowing
could be both

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:12 pm
by Bawhoppennn
Well, get on with it and ban those people then! I hunger for NUTS

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:17 pm
by MrStonedOne
MooCow12 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm Is that meant to be passive aggressive or super duper ominous and foreshadowing
yes

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:40 pm
by dirk_mcblade
Drag wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:05 am
dirk_mcblade wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:07 am
oranges wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:29 pm They leaked player info and breached adminconduct.

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What player info? Who has their info up on an atmospherics simulator?
It's the Internet bro, we know more about you than you'd expect us to
For the record any association with the reptilians infiltrating world society is fake and/or parody.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:47 pm
by saprasam
lol

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:50 pm
by MooCow12
time to list off the admins that we havent seen say anything in this thread BEFORE the mso comment.


oooo we could make a bingo card

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:52 pm
by Archie700
MooCow12 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:50 pm time to list off the admins that we havent seen say anything in this thread BEFORE the mso comment.


oooo we could make a bingo card
can you fucking not

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:54 pm
by TheFinalPotato
Daily reminder to never ever read peanut threads, only nerds and cringelords post in them

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:54 pm
by Ezel
mso didn't specify admins in that comment

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:45 am
by Armhulen
MrStonedOne wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:17 pm Some of the same people who always comment on these threads being silent this time because they know more than they want to let on isn't going unnoticed by the leadership team.
Your honor, I've been deafeningly loud.
TheFinalPotato wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:54 pm Daily reminder to never ever read peanut threads, only nerds and cringelords post in them
W-Well maybe just indoor voice about it

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:52 am
by Capsandi
I've sent private messages through the forums to my inner circle (NOT A METAGANG ITS A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING) with the purpose of triangulating those who would have posted inb4 MSO's epic page 2 cliffhanger.
After some scrutinizing of user activity, it has come to my attention that user sinfulbliss, a self-proclaimed.. whatever he's proclaimed himself to be, has been absent from the forums for some number of months. Must be trying to keep his head low.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:02 am
by Timberpoes
Rest assured if Sinful wasn't banned from the Player's Club, he'd definitely be in here exclaiming how leaking notes and other info to your friends isn't that bad, or even that it's part of a healthy community and administration and all admins should strive to abuse their powers since that's what The Players want.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:14 am
by Constellado
MrStonedOne wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:17 pm Some of the same people who always comment on these threads being silent this time because they know more than they want to let on isn't going unnoticed by the leadership team.
I was going to say that I didn't post till I saw this because I had nothing to say.

Then I remembered.
You are correct on this count!
:D

(I was there when Hotmud used admin powers)

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:17 am
by oranges
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Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:43 am
by Bawhoppennn
Timberpoes wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:02 am Rest assured if Sinful wasn't banned from the Player's Club, he'd definitely be in here exclaiming how leaking notes and other info to your friends isn't that bad, or even that it's part of a healthy community and administration and all admins should strive to abuse their powers since that's what The Players want.
And would he be wrong?

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:02 am
by c4g
Bawhoppennn wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:43 am
Timberpoes wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:02 am Rest assured if Sinful wasn't banned from the Player's Club, he'd definitely be in here exclaiming how leaking notes and other info to your friends isn't that bad, or even that it's part of a healthy community and administration and all admins should strive to abuse their powers since that's what The Players want.
And would he be wrong?
he'd be right as always. we need him back

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:19 am
by mrmelbert
Bawhoppennn wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:43 am And would he be wrong?
Well he's always wrong, so yeah

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:34 am
by TheLoLSwat
yeah we need sinful back if he starts tweaking he can just go on post approval or something

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:00 am
by MrStonedOne
Now that we have canned 4 admins we have to ban 40 players to even out the numbers.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:06 am
by Timonk
MrStonedOne wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:00 am Now that we have canned 4 admins we have to ban 40 players to even out the numbers.
4 admins convert to 1 Host, dont you know?

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:08 am
by Donglesplonge
the headmin permaban bingo cards about to be really full with this banger MSO post

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:09 am
by MooCow12
MrStonedOne wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:00 am Now that we have canned 4 admins we have to ban 40 players to even out the numbers.
Seth(s) got banned so its even.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:11 am
by Constellado
After the metagang bans and the funeral bans, I'm pretty sure its evened out.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:12 am
by TheBibleMelts
MooCow12 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:09 am
MrStonedOne wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:00 am Now that we have canned 4 admins we have to ban 40 players to even out the numbers.
Seth(s) got banned so its even.
40 bodies with which to griff..

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:28 am
by Shellton(Mario)
MooCow12 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm Is that meant to be passive aggressive or super duper ominous and foreshadowing
It means hes sending his bitcoin assassins' to run people over with their mobility scooter and stab them with their insuline pen

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:46 am
by Armhulen
Shellton(Mario) wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:28 am
MooCow12 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm Is that meant to be passive aggressive or super duper ominous and foreshadowing
It means hes sending his bitcoin assassins' to run people over with their mobility scooter and stab them with their insuline pen
bitcoin assassins? don't be stupi

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:55 am
by TheFinalPotato
Timonk wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:06 am
MrStonedOne wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:00 am Now that we have canned 4 admins we have to ban 40 players to even out the numbers.
4 admins convert to 1 Host, dont you know?
I think you'll find it's 3 admins to a headmin, all admins to a host (he has dm perms)

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:24 pm
by Timonk
TheFinalPotato wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:55 am
Timonk wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:06 am
MrStonedOne wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:00 am Now that we have canned 4 admins we have to ban 40 players to even out the numbers.
4 admins convert to 1 Host, dont you know?
I think you'll find it's 3 admins to a headmin, all admins to a host (he has dm perms)
Typical American doesn't know how real numbers work

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:09 pm
by dirk_mcblade
Is discord required for admins seems like an easy way to avoid being de admined if you don't join the admin bus

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:43 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:09 pm Is discord required for admins seems like an easy way to avoid being de admined if you don't join the admin bus
Yes. At least one admin was deadminned for refusing to move to the discord when everything moved there from the IRC.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:15 pm
by Cheshify
In regards to people asking about conduct, you can find it public on the wiki https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Admin_Conduct

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:47 pm
by oranges
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:09 pm Is discord required for admins seems like an easy way to avoid being de admined if you don't join the admin bus
yes becuase it's where most of the direction for admins comes from.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:49 pm
by LEDDDriver
Do admins that get deadmin'd because they breached conduct also get permabanned from the game?

You perma people for much less, i'd assume leaking private info (IPs included or not) is a pretty significant issue.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:55 pm
by Drag
LEDDDriver wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:49 pm Do admins that get deadmin'd because they breached conduct also get permabanned from the game?

You perma people for much less, i'd assume leaking private info (IPs included or not) is a pretty significant issue.
If you reveal an IP address or otherwise dox another player or staff member you are blacklisted from TG entirely.

As for conduct breaches such as leaking chat logs it's up to the headmins.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:33 pm
by Blacklist897
reading this I do need to ask if the headmins deadminned hotmud for the incident they came forward with alone or was the issue with other "Events" on manuel?

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:41 pm
by NoxVS
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:33 pm reading this I do need to ask if the headmins deadminned hotmud for the incident they came forward with alone or was the issue with other "Events" on manuel?
What other "Events"?

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:56 pm
by Vekter
LEDDDriver wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:49 pm Do admins that get deadmin'd because they breached conduct also get permabanned from the game?

You perma people for much less, i'd assume leaking private info (IPs included or not) is a pretty significant issue.
Not automatically. They don't come hand in hand, it's always going to depend on the situation at hand.

Alamo was permabanned from the game per this public ban record:
Leaked private player information that they obtained with admin tools to a private group metacord, regularly leaked admin channels and displayed an alarming degree of backhanded manipulative behavior while adminned.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:37 pm
by Cheshify
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:33 pm reading this I do need to ask if the headmins deadminned hotmud for the incident they came forward with alone or was the issue with other "Events" on manuel?
Parroting what Nox asked, could you be less vague about what you're asking?

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:43 pm
by Blacklist897
NoxVS wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:41 pm
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:33 pm reading this I do need to ask if the headmins deadminned hotmud for the incident they came forward with alone or was the issue with other "Events" on manuel?
What other "Events"?
Now before I continue I do want to say that I had a talk with them over said events and they agreed it was overstepping boundaries
First was a "event" where i got bwoinked and told I was getting kidnapped for lore before a cc annocement saying they wanted to take me to centcom upon arriveing I get flashbanged with this (I had talked to them ic about 3 times before this round)
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before getting drop podded to safety as nar-sie got summoned
The second event Image
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Spawned static in as a ascended ash heratic that murderboned nearing the end of a greenshift said static was under ghost control but they took back the body after a sec officer killed them with a baton and prevented shuttle leaving until we revived them

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:15 pm
by Constellado
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:43 pm
NoxVS wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:41 pm
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:33 pm reading this I do need to ask if the headmins deadminned hotmud for the incident they came forward with alone or was the issue with other "Events" on manuel?
What other "Events"?
Now before I continue I do want to say that I had a talk with them over said events and they agreed it was overstepping boundaries
First was a "event" where i got bwoinked and told I was getting kidnapped for lore before a cc annocement saying they wanted to take me to centcom upon arriveing I get flashbanged with this (I had talked to them ic about 3 times before this round) cc cringe.png
before getting drop podded to safety as nar-sie got summoned
The second event Image image3.png Spawned static in as a ascended ash heratic that murderboned nearing the end of a greenshift said static was under ghost control but they took back the body after a sec officer killed them with a baton and prevented shuttle leaving until we revived them
The more I think about it the more I get the heebie jeebies.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:16 pm
by Blacklist897
It did make me feel quite uncomfortable

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:17 pm
by oranges
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:43 pm The second event Image image3.png Spawned static in as a ascended ash heratic that murderboned nearing the end of a greenshift said static was under ghost control but they took back the body after a sec officer killed them with a baton and prevented shuttle leaving until we revived them
this is just a regular event and shouldn't be included here as it's something admins can do.

anyway neither of these events are related to the deadminning that i am aware of.

and i'm not sure why you bring them up now because they would have been a lot more useful if reported when they happened.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:21 pm
by Blacklist897
I just had the question thats all

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:22 pm
by oranges
yeah, i'll make a note to headadmins anyway.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:35 pm
by Constellado
The big problem I had with that second event is we had no idea it was ghost controlled till people clarified it to us after the round. There was no way of knowing otherwise.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:37 pm
by Cheshify
If you read conduct, you'll find a very cool line:
We're here to create fun for them, not for ourselves. If you are killing or otherwise acting as an antag as an event character yourself, think twice.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:53 pm
by NoxVS
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:43 pm
NoxVS wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:41 pm
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:33 pm reading this I do need to ask if the headmins deadminned hotmud for the incident they came forward with alone or was the issue with other "Events" on manuel?
What other "Events"?
Now before I continue I do want to say that I had a talk with them over said events and they agreed it was overstepping boundaries
First was a "event" where i got bwoinked and told I was getting kidnapped for lore before a cc annocement saying they wanted to take me to centcom upon arriveing I get flashbanged with this (I had talked to them ic about 3 times before this round) cc cringe.png
before getting drop podded to safety as nar-sie got summoned
The second event Image image3.png Spawned static in as a ascended ash heratic that murderboned nearing the end of a greenshift said static was under ghost control but they took back the body after a sec officer killed them with a baton and prevented shuttle leaving until we revived them
Did you or anyone involved bring this up anywhere? Feedback thread, admin complaint?

If the answer is no, then it probably didn't factor into the decision at all.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:41 am
by Itseasytosee2me
spawning yourself in station side to do anything violent (let alone muder boning as ascendant heretic) at all is incredibly lame and a big red flag imo. I never did it once durring my admin stint.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:45 am
by dirk_mcblade
It takes a very special kind of person to use admin tools like that.

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:57 am
by TheBibleMelts
thread suddenly started saying a lot of untrue things this page

Re: another deadmin wave

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:59 am
by warbluke
Blacklist897 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:43 pm Image
Glyph of warding.