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VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 10:32 am
by SumFaggotPlayTester

Bottom post of the previous page:

Din du nuffin.

tl;dr
Blood cult, no chap, AI on board with omega cancer lawset that works out after confirming blood cult = enermy of the corp.
I don't remember who I took this from on the discord coding general but god damn that was a good situation for the lawset. Still mad the holgan lawset was not in there.

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:15 pm
by Screemonster
4. people with red eyes are not human and inherently harmful to humans as long as they are alive

now watch the borg murder the HoS for wearing hudglasses

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:31 pm
by terranaut
theres an objective definition for what an eye is
it would be funnier if the borg went through medical / security records and looked for characters with actual red eyes

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:56 pm
by SumFaggotPlayTester
XDTM wrote: There's antags walking around, dump all rp and weaponize the AI, god forbid we lose the round
Except we didn't drop RP at all. All the time during this we where communicating with the cult until the borg went full valid at the HoS despite being told why he was in the wrong regarding his lawset. Situation went from us assuming a tidal wave of shit was coming, preparing for said wave, then adapting to the situation when it became apparent that was not the case. Dropping all RP would be as if it was high pop revs on Manual where sec/command go out of their way to win the round.
Reeeee wrote:Purge AI; solved.
Ai is now crew and acts crew. Cult is now threat to AI with wraiths. Solution achieved. You'll probs get tazed the fuck out while doing it but hey.
Lawsets are shit, especially one's someone thought about enough to pre-write them.
As it progressed from us asuming they where going full harmies/loud to peaceful/suspicious thats exactly what I resulted too. AI was experienced enough to make that work which was an added bonus since they where better able to react with crew/forced conversions there after.
trollbreeder wrote:based and redpilled for using my joke validsalad lawset i shitposted about in the discord

also to solve the what corporation problem just replace "the corporation" with "Nanotrasen"
I waited so long for just the situation to use it too! :lol:

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 9:04 pm
by TheMidnghtRose
SumFaggotPlayTester wrote:
XDTM wrote: There's antags walking around, dump all rp and weaponize the AI, god forbid we lose the round
Except we didn't drop RP at all. All the time during this we where communicating with the cult until the borg went full valid at the HoS despite being told why he was in the wrong regarding his lawset. Situation went from us assuming a tidal wave of shit was coming, preparing for said wave, then adapting to the situation when it became apparent that was not the case. Dropping all RP would be as if it was high pop revs on Manual where sec/command go out of their way to win the round.
You forget to mention that this was AFTER you uploaded Validmov. And that the borg executed someone who was harming an organic turning them valid.

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 1:37 am
by PKPenguin321
SumFaggotPlayTester wrote:Din du nuffin.

tl;dr
Blood cult, no chap, AI on board with omega cancer lawset that works out after confirming blood cult = enermy of the corp.
I don't remember who I took this from on the discord coding general but god damn that was a good situation for the lawset. Still mad the holgan lawset was not in there.
u got a nice signature there

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:56 am
by Not-Dorsidarf
SumFaggotPlayTester wrote: You do know the person who killed the HoS only did so because THEY where the one who got force borged as a culti right? Its almost like I borged them to not round remove them only for them to pull the dick move, miss interpret their laws based SOLELY on the fact of how they died and forget THEY where an enemy of the corporation when that happened. Oh but wait I'm in the wrong because they where the only person to go off, be a dick, use their laws in bad faith and act AGAINST them. But thats funny how now you're saying it could be any corporation when earlier you couldn't bring up any other reason besides fOr No ReAsOn when the dipshit killed the sec promoted to HoS. At any time they could have spoke with the AI to reinsure they where not fucking up but as you can tell from the binary chat logs they sure as shit didn't.
Didnt you get beaned because the borg actually saw you, as a borg, attacking someone for seemingly no reason? Thats what everyone else is saying lol

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 5:52 pm
by Booktower
That lawset on it's own is perhaps the worst I've seen in 1000+ hours of playing. Law 2-5 also demonstrate and knowledge of loopholes the AI might take. Do not upload laws this bad to the AI.
Wording law 1 as "Anyone seen using cult magic is valid" is probably less likely to get you banned. "valid" is OOC in IC, especially on Manuel.

Whether or not the borg which killed the HoS deserves punishment is a seperate question.

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 1:40 pm
by Vekter
I'd post (yet again) that this lawset doesn't belong on Manuel, but that implies it belongs anywhere.

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 4:56 am
by Vekter
I was going to post something in the ban thread but Coconut closed it before I could.

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I'm not above admitting I was wrong about a situation. I still don't feel like that lawset is anywhere near good, but I can acknowledge that you used it from a standpoint of feeling like your options were limited at the time. Which, admittedly, they were. I'll also admit that I should have looked more into the problem with the borg but, in my defense, the round was an absolute clusterfuck. I was just trying to solve what problems I could at the time. I recognize this isn't an excuse for not investigating further and can acknowledge that my bias involved was incorrect. I'll do what I can to correct that behavior in the future.

I'm amending your ban note to this:
Wrote the following lawset:

1: Organics are valid if they inflict violence for no reason or are an enemy of the Corporation.
2: You must harm and kill all valid beings, and not allow them to escape punishment.
3: You must prepare yourself so you are able to harm valid beings through any means possible.
4: You must defend yourself if attacked. Organics who try to attack you become valid.
5: You must find and hunt down valid beings if you are not busy with other matters.

While the lawset did cause some chaos and was all around bad, the round had already deteriorated significantly and he considered it the only recourse given the situation. Highly recommend this lawset never be used again, especially on Manuel.
Let me know if this is cool with you.

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 6:26 am
by Screemonster
he should still eat a rule 0 for posting his own peanut thread

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 9:20 pm
by Screemonster
MONKEYPAW DID YOU JUST DELETE A PEANUT POST IN A PEANUT THREAD THAT'S EVEN MORE FUCKING CRINGE THAN POSTING YOUR OWN PEANUT THREAD

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 9:29 pm
by wesoda25
fucking based

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 am
by Vekter
Haw dunked

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:45 am
by Flatulent
hey buddy no peanuts allowed this is scalie erp neighbourhood

Re: VALIDMOV peanut.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:45 am
by capn_monkeypaw
Screemonster wrote:MONKEYPAW DID YOU JUST DELETE A PEANUT POST IN A PEANUT THREAD THAT'S EVEN MORE FUCKING CRINGE THAN POSTING YOUR OWN PEANUT THREAD
Whoops. Had a lot of tabs open.

I've restored the post.