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Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:19 am
by ShibaInuLord

Bottom post of the previous page:

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27711
lol addiction oh no!!!
Wesoda's mistake was playing on manuel and expecting rp instead of hugbox

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:42 pm
by Cobby
Didn’t know it wasn’t ok to know game mechanics if you weren’t the right job.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:43 pm
by Vekter
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Its not factually inaccurate to call you a shit for brains ban bot, lets get that title permanently affixed under your username.
This take always fucking tickles me because you have zero clue how much silly bullshit I've let people get away with because they were nice/respectful in ahelps and had little to no history. I get a rep as a banbot because I don't put up with bullshit from the usual suspects.

EDIT: lol second page also the note got lifted so we should close this maybe

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:03 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Vekter wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Its not factually inaccurate to call you a shit for brains ban bot, lets get that title permanently affixed under your username.
This take always fucking tickles me because you have zero clue how much silly bullshit I've let people get away with because they were nice/respectful in ahelps and had little to no history. I get a rep as a banbot because I don't put up with bullshit from the usual suspects.

EDIT: lol second page also the note got lifted so we should close this maybe
I can't operate off info i'm not given if you dont want people to call you a banbot then publicize your magnanimity of not given people excessive bans when they break the rules because they were pubby literally whos with no note history and they sucked your cock in the ahelp, we definitely won't call you a compliment fishing banbot for doing that.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:45 pm
by terranaut
i would like to personally thank his magnificence vekter I. for the grace he shows the average player making a honest mistake when he does not permaban him and, in his infinite wisdom, allows him to continue playing HIS game on HIS server, all without the thanks and laudations one of his station would expect and deserve.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:47 pm
by Space Panda
you may not like vekter but we can all agree she's hot

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:19 pm
by Tarchonvaagh
ArcaneDefence wrote:[youtube]HP1NAZV20U0[/youtube]
This is really sweet

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:29 pm
by imsxz
im very uninformed and cant be bothered to read more than a couple lines of text in the appeal but did the banbot jump from "security using brain removal to changeling test someone" to "officer used a bit too much morphine and spacemen dont know how harmful a massive syringe of an addictive opiate is" like damn it would have been easier to stick with the first one wtf happened

can i get it explained in a way that doesnt make the situation seem less funny

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:36 pm
by Fishimun
imsxz wrote:im very uninformed and cant be bothered to read more than a couple lines of text in the appeal but did the banbot jump from "security using brain removal to changeling test someone" to "officer used a bit too much morphine and spacemen dont know how harmful a massive syringe of an addictive opiate is" like damn it would have been easier to stick with the first one wtf happened

can i get it explained in a way that doesnt make the situation seem less funny
no it's just funny

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:58 pm
by thehogshotgun
Look upon the evidence and see vekter is a filthy filthy commie hrp monger!

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:07 pm
by terranaut
imsxz wrote:im very uninformed and cant be bothered to read more than a couple lines of text in the appeal but did the banbot jump from "security using brain removal to changeling test someone" to "officer used a bit too much morphine and spacemen dont know how harmful a massive syringe of an addictive opiate is" like damn it would have been easier to stick with the first one wtf happened

can i get it explained in a way that doesnt make the situation seem less funny
no the brain removal thing never came up the admin was playing and saw an officer dump a big fat load of morphine into a restrained prisoner (a changeling) so they readminned, bwoinked and noted all within like 2 minutes with no investigation

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:53 pm
by Cobby
Space Panda wrote:you may not like vekter but we can all agree she's hot
simp

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:29 pm
by Space Panda
at least I simp for real women

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:39 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Dangerously spicy post space panda you might want to edit that before someone of a certain appellation sees it

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:52 pm
by Tlaltecuhtli
Space Panda wrote:at least I simp for real women
based!!!!

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:18 pm
by skoglol
Ling checks aren't intended to exist and any that do are to be considered exploits. But let's focus on the morphine addiction given to a changeling why dont we :lol:

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:28 pm
by VexingRaven
It concerns me that this was basically boiled down to "you should know OOC what the arbitrary addiction threshold is if you don't want to get punished for using the chemicals you start with to do what you're meant to do with them".

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:51 pm
by Fikou
[2020-10-05 22:25:03.655] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ikrarkjr/(Ambrosia Rose)->Sylphet/(Celeste Veilleux): gimme antag token UwU

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:20 pm
by terranaut
skoglol wrote:Ling checks aren't intended to exist and any that do are to be considered exploits. But let's focus on the morphine addiction given to a changeling why dont we :lol:
noooo not my antagerino rounderino!!! if only i was cremated instead of ADDICTED TO MORPHINE(mood debuff if not on morphine, a chemical that buffs you in very low doses)!!!!

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:28 pm
by terranaut
oh yeah thing i think is interesting to note: sylphet seems very involved in almost anything involving Ikrarkjr/ambrosia rose, the changeling from that round, and very much in favor of them in general

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27569
Ikrarkjr gets banned, Sylphet chimes in saying they're a good boy and didn't do nuffin

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27348
Someone gets wabbajacked into a slime on a packed shuttle, gets attacked, starts attacking other people (Ikrarkjr), gets banned

and then theres the dumb meme note this thread is about with sylphet jumping straight out of seeing something in IC back to admin and placing a note within 2 minutes of bwoinking a player for drugging a changeling (Ikrarkjr)

there might be more but i already feel way too autistic making this post so im just gonna stop

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:45 pm
by Kel
terranaut wrote:oh yeah thing i think is interesting to note: sylphet seems very involved in almost anything involving Ikrarkjr/ambrosia rose, the changeling from that round, and very much in favor of them in general

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27569
Ikrarkjr gets banned, Sylphet chimes in saying they're a good boy and didn't do nuffin

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27348
Someone gets wabbajacked into a slime on a packed shuttle, gets attacked, starts attacking other people (Ikrarkjr), gets banned

and then theres the dumb meme note this thread is about with sylphet jumping straight out of seeing something in IC back to admin and placing a note within 2 minutes of bwoinking a player for drugging a changeling (Ikrarkjr)

there might be more but i already feel way too autistic making this post so im just gonna stop
you're getting too close to the truth, detective. i suggest you take a step back and burn those files before you do something you won't be able to regret.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:04 pm
by Farquaar
You're obsessed! I'm taking you off the case, lieutenant.
I want your gun and badge on my desk by tomorrow morning.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:14 pm
by IkeTG
his note should have stuck because he was playing a pacifist rp

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:47 pm
by Armhulen
Farquaar wrote:You're obsessed! I'm taking you off the case, lieutenant.
I want your gun and badge on my desk by tomorrow morning.
Oh, i'm the best antagonist in the game? Nice to know!

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:50 pm
by Shadowflame909
Armhulen wrote:
Farquaar wrote:You're obsessed! I'm taking you off the case, lieutenant.
I want your gun and badge on my desk by tomorrow morning.
Oh, i'm the best antagonist in the game? Nice to know!
obsessed more like

Twitch Subscriber simulator

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:45 pm
by legality
How is it not absolutely ingenious for a pacifist sec officer trying to avoid executing a ling to give them a chem addiction they have to either stay in custody to feed or, if they get out, proceed to chemistry where they can be re-detained?

Why did no one think of this before, this is great

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:14 pm
by FloranOtten
The note's bad but it's not the end of life as we know it, calm down

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:25 pm
by cacogen
Well, terranaut has cracked the case

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:43 pm
by BONERMASTER
I'll point out one thing, I'll never get why admins think that when you have a piece of shit restrained, that you're not allowed to do a little bloodsport with em. It's written in the rules that you can do whatever you want with them, and that's how it's done around here. Sylph, listen, if I could pin a bullshit note/ban on Wesoda, I'd do it too, but I'd come up with anything else other than overdosing a confirmed ling, like come on, you have to keep up at least SOME sort of integrity.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:45 pm
by Kendrickorium
this is a good thread, I like this thread

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:06 am
by Skillywatt
It appears our friendly noting admin in this case has conflated MRP with HRP

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:13 am
by thehogshotgun
Now that, that is cringe

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:30 am
by ArcaneDefence
[youtube]hJ_QCUZVNAw[/youtube]

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:27 am
by Anuv
Upgrade this note to a permaban.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:41 am
by Armhulen
Anuv wrote:Upgrade this note to a permaban.
I'm gonna upgrade your head to the likeness of a cracked egg

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:04 am
by NecromancerAnne
BONERMASTER wrote:It's written in the rules that you can do whatever you want with them, and that's how it's done around here.
It is also written in the RP rules that you should treat them proportionate to the crimes they commit.
6.Deal with the bad guys in proportion to their crime(s) wrote: When dealing with antagonists deal with them proportionally to their crime(s). Someone who stole the captain's medal shouldn't be immediately lasered to death, but lethal injecting someone who has killed four people is understandable. If an antagonist shows a willingness to engage with you, do your best to reciprocate it, though leniency as to their punishment is still in your court.
Though in this case, lings are assumed to have already murdered at least one person, so all in all execution is on the table for lings (thank goodness given their inability to be detained without some extreme measures). But this is allowing for general leeway as to how you conduct yourself in security, and you shouldn't just jump to execution or permabrigging if the most they've done is possess some contraband or breaking and entering.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:49 am
by Armhulen
NecromancerAnne wrote:
BONERMASTER wrote:It's written in the rules that you can do whatever you want with them, and that's how it's done around here.
It is also written in the RP rules that you should treat them proportionate to the crimes they commit.
6.Deal with the bad guys in proportion to their crime(s) wrote: When dealing with antagonists deal with them proportionally to their crime(s). Someone who stole the captain's medal shouldn't be immediately lasered to death, but lethal injecting someone who has killed four people is understandable. If an antagonist shows a willingness to engage with you, do your best to reciprocate it, though leniency as to their punishment is still in your court.
Though in this case, lings are assumed to have already murdered at least one person, so all in all execution is on the table for lings (thank goodness given their inability to be detained without some extreme measures). But this is allowing for general leeway as to how you conduct yourself in security, and you shouldn't just jump to execution or permabrigging if the most they've done is possess some contraband or breaking and entering.
Remember that that itself is a dangerous statement to say about a changeling, considering they can get out of nearly all situations.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:51 am
by NecromancerAnne
I suppose that's a consequence of an antagonist that gives you no recourse but complete destruction, but thems the breaks.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:18 pm
by Kassori
What even is this note? I give like 5 people omega weed addictions on a good day

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:19 pm
by Kassori
NecromancerAnne wrote:I suppose that's a consequence of an antagonist that gives you no recourse but complete destruction, but thems the breaks.
Oh no Anne, they could have turned Xenobiology into a prison cell with BZ and stationed two guards there until the end of the shift!

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:26 pm
by Indie-ana Jones
Stuff like this is the reason I avoid Manuel like the plague.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:20 pm
by Shadowflame909
Armhulen wrote: Remember that that itself is a dangerous statement to say about a changeling, considering they can get out of nearly all situations.
Yeah changelings are really some Admin-Abuse tier shiz

Can't even r-wall hugbox a changeling because Last Resort is a literal explosion of the body that can break walls and destroy limbs if you're on the changeling when they do it.

Thinglings never ever

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:25 pm
by Armhulen
Shadowflame909 wrote:
Armhulen wrote: Remember that that itself is a dangerous statement to say about a changeling, considering they can get out of nearly all situations.
Yeah changelings are really some Admin-Abuse tier shiz

Can't even r-wall hugbox a changeling because Last Resort is a literal explosion of the body that can break walls and destroy limbs if you're on the changeling when they do it.

Thinglings never ever
Thinglings are so cool but just the opposite direction changeling should even be going in.

Yo... It's kind of exactly what morph is now. Maybe morphs should turn into thinglings?

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:29 pm
by Screemonster
they're valid to be killed but ooooh nooooo better not mildly inconvenience them

and holy fuck at the initial note leaving out the part where the person was a confirmed ling, that's a pretty important fucking detail

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:37 pm
by confused rock
Changeling is the antag that can get completely caught, have everyone in the crew know how bad you are, get fragged and left dead in the execution room, and with patience escape and steal someone else's identity. There is no reason to "be kind to the antags" in the case of changeling, and it's perfect that way. Dangerous enough that it's the perfect situation for maximum force, and it's not completely unfair to the changeling as depending on what tools they take it can be incredibly easy to escape their own death or even kill an officer dragging them in handcuffs with some stings and shrieks.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:38 pm
by Armhulen
I actually really like changelings because of that. They're nigh uncontainable without permanent destruction.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:14 pm
by oranges
terranaut wrote:oh yeah thing i think is interesting to note: sylphet seems very involved in almost anything involving Ikrarkjr/ambrosia rose, the changeling from that round, and very much in favor of them in general

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27569
Ikrarkjr gets banned, Sylphet chimes in saying they're a good boy and didn't do nuffin

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27348
Someone gets wabbajacked into a slime on a packed shuttle, gets attacked, starts attacking other people (Ikrarkjr), gets banned

and then theres the dumb meme note this thread is about with sylphet jumping straight out of seeing something in IC back to admin and placing a note within 2 minutes of bwoinking a player for drugging a changeling (Ikrarkjr)

there might be more but i already feel way too autistic making this post so im just gonna stop
a lot to unpack here

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 pm
by Denton
bah god, I didn't expect oranges to pull out the flamethrower in that appeal thread. normally, savagery on that level is reserved for crag.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:42 pm
by confused rock
I feel so bad for wesoda it makes me want to give him free tf2 items

I don't think it's that ikrar has admin buddies I think it's just that they ahelp literally everything, they started following me the moment I got off the arrivals shuttle before I could get my job equipment so I ran to the holodeck, disablered them with the kobayashi maru gun until they were knocked down, and left, and they ahelped and an admin warned me for it.

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:00 am
by ArcaneDefence
[youtube]-TCKG4SbLWk[/youtube]

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:07 am
by wesoda25
gondola has good taste in point and click games

Re: Wesoda note appeal peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:26 pm
by bobbahbrown
third page update wesoda is free