/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:41 pm**

Bottom post of the previous page:

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 23&t=28881

ill be honest, I'm actually not sure that FATAL is right here, despite how stupid admincomplaining being smited is. That clause is for orders which are abusive to the AI player (As it uses the examples to show), not orders which are annoying for other characters.

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:51 am**

Critawakets wrote:actually, AI was breaking law 1 in this case. WGW causes massive harm to the psyche of anyone that listens to it, making it human harm.

Checkmate, losers

policy that AI must disable telecommunications whenever wgw is read when?

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:31 am**

The way I see it, there are two types of AIs when it comes to orders like this: those who ignore/stall, and those who just do it. I personally like AI players who “just do it” more because I think they are putting their laws before themselves, which I think is cool (although absolutely don’t expect from every (or even any) silicon player).

Now the selfless part of just automatically (alternatively: stoically or mindlessly) following orders is that it’s a lot more often for this type of player to have their round come to a premature end, which is what happened here. The expectation when this happens is that admins will hold the player who abused/weaponized asimov responsible, which did not happen here.

Seeing as fatal was the one who actually did the round removing, I feel as if he could have at least saw to it that the person responsible for this was punished too. I also think it’s lame that he kept the AI out of the round when it wasn’t even his intention to kill it, however getting round removed is the expectation when you play AI this way, so complaining does sort of change the AI’s automatic response from a stoic one to a mindless one (and I can’t blame someone for having less sympathy for the latter!)

The circumstances of a highlander round on april fools do go a way towards explaining fatals actions, however I don’t think he should be picking and choosing where to uphold the rules in a meme round and where to abandon them (killing a player for wgw but not caring to punish the person responsible).

Despite all that I’m not even sure I can fault someone for looking at this as simply as “say annoying shit like WGW, get shit on” so I won’t be too devastated when it’s inevitably closed. ;_;

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:23 am**

Rohen_Tahir wrote: Imagine posting this on a thread for a fuckup this fucking minor.

*imagines it*

AND?

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:44 am**

Not calling for a deadmin, only for this to not become a norm because players deserve better

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:30 pm**

thiscomplaint is good because the AI got owned

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:48 pm**

AI shouldn't be punished for this, the lawgiver should. Someone should probably slap the admin on the wrist for doing this too.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:59 pm**

Indie-ana Jones wrote:AI shouldn't be punished for this, the lawgiver should. Someone should probably slap the admin on the wrist for doing this too.

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Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:51 pm**

guys all of you are spamming

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:23 pm**

Timonk wrote:guys all of you are spamming

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:24 pm**

Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Timonk wrote:guys all of you are spamming

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:26 pm**

Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Timonk wrote:guys all of you are spamming

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:27 pm**

Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Timonk wrote:guys all of you are spamming

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:35 pm**

Stop spamming bro I don't care about your messages so you're spamming

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:18 am**

Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Timonk wrote:guys all of you are spamming

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:37 am**

MortoSasye wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
Timonk wrote:guys all of you are spamming

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:04 am**

Timonk wrote:Stop spamming bro I don't care about your messages so you're spamming

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:54 am**

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:
Vekter wrote:Why are we even entertaining a complaint that reads "I was told to do something stupid AS THE ROLE THAT HAS TO DO WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU TO DO and I did it, now I'm upset that there were consequences for my actions"? Just delete the thread and move on, who fucking cares
I fixed that for you buddy

You're allowed to refuse orders that would explicitly break the rules. If a player tells you to send creepy rule 8 breaking content or say something horrifically racist, you're still culpable for doing it. You don't get a pass just because you're playing AI and were ordered to do it.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:02 am**

Vekter wrote:You don't get a pass just because you're playing AI and were ordered to do it.

Vekter wrote:you're playing AI

Vekter wrote:ordered to do it

Vekter wrote:AI

Vekter wrote:ordered

Silicon Protections, as Written wrote: The occurrence of any of the following should be adminhelped and then disregarded as violations of Server Rule 1:

6. Obviously unreasonable or obnoxious orders (collect all X, do Y meaningless task).

Silicon ̶P̶r̶o̶t̶e̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ Obligations, as Interpreted by Vekter wrote: The occurrence of any of the following must be adminhelped and then disregarded as violations of Server Rule 1:

6. Obviously unreasonable or obnoxious orders (read a copypasta over the radio once).

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:21 am**

ill be honest, I'm actually not sure that FATAL is right here

This implies that Fatal has been right about things before, can you cite evidence to support this view?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:29 am**

how is pugie so redpilled

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:48 am**

Malkraz wrote:how is pugie so redpilled

gay sex

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:58 am**

Malkraz wrote:how is pugie so redpilled

I stopped playing

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:23 am**

this thread blows

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:27 pm**

If only there was some kind of special role, possessed by people whose only role in the community is to stop threads on the forum from descending into unending spam

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:50 pm**

if it was my job to purge threads because i did not laugh at any of the non-rule-breaking posts within i would have to delete almost the entire off topic board

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:16 am**

Bruh, my gravelpost gets deleted despite the high effort that went in to improve the format of gravelposting going forward and this lad just dumps forklifts? Harshin' my mellow

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:04 am**

I will ban you

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:58 am**

the game

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:38 pm**

pugie wrote:
Malkraz wrote:how is pugie so redpilled
I stopped playing

based

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:28 pm**

pugie wrote:
Malkraz wrote:how is pugie so redpilled
I stopped playing

welcome to the club here’s your lederhosen

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:04 pm**

Flatulent wrote:
pugie wrote:
Malkraz wrote:how is pugie so redpilled
I stopped playing
welcome to the club here’s your lederhosen

I do not care thus you are spamming

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:22 pm**

Timonk wrote:
Flatulent wrote:
pugie wrote:
Malkraz wrote:how is pugie so redpilled
I stopped playing
welcome to the club here’s your lederhosen
I do not care thus you are spamming

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:40 pm**

ArcaneDefence wrote:Bruh, my gravelpost gets deleted despite the high effort that went in to improve the format of gravelposting going forward and this lad just dumps forklifts? Harshin' my mellow

there is a difference between posting that in a thread that is actively on topic and a dumpster fire

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:59 pm**

PKPenguin321 wrote:there is a difference between posting that in a thread that is actively on topic and a dumpster fire

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[youtube]9Wmk5zmhiqs[/youtube]

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Cost of Crushed Rock Delivery
The price of crushed rock depends on the type and size you select, and the amount. It is also heavily influenced by your geographic location. Prices in big cities are easily double what they are in many rural areas.

Minus crushed rock is less expensive, ranging from about $12-$35 per cubic yard, not including delivery or spreading.
Clean crushed rock usually ranges in price from $30-$50 per cubic yard, also not including delivery or spreading.

Delivery and spreading charges vary, too, but in many cases they will double the price. The more you order, however, the less per cubic yard delivery charges will be.

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Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:05 am**

How Much Does Shutting the Goddamn Hell Up Cost?

Summary: Gravel Delivery Prices
Minus crushed rock costs $12-$35 per cubic yard while clean crushed rock costs $30-$50 per cubic yard. Delivery and spreading can double those prices. However, the more material you order, the less the total cost. Delivery is usually free of charge up to 10 miles.

Below are some crushed stone/gravel delivery prices by locations:

*Source: Homeadvisor.com users

Crushed rock is a type of gravel that has been mechanically broken down into small pieces and sorted by size. It is a highly versatile product, used for driveways, pathways, flower beds or as a base for concrete, pavers, asphalt, retaining walls, sheds or foundations.

Crushed rock is a very strong and durable material, and it offers great traction. It is available for delivery by the cubic yard, typically by landscaping supply companies that also sell products such as mulch, sand and soil.

About Crushed Rock Delivery
There are two basic types of crushed rocks: minus and clean. Both are available in a variety of sizes and colors, but they are used differently.

Any crushed rock with the word minus in the description (3/4-inch minus, for example) will also contain smaller pieces of rock, dirt and/or sand. This type packs down tightly, making it ideal for established driveways without drainage problems, as well as a base material for porches, patios, walkways, driveways and the like.
Clean crushed rock does not have the smaller pieces of rock, dirt and/or sand. If it is advertised as 1/4 inch, all pieces are that size. Because clean crushed rock does not pack down tightly, it is not ideal as a base. But it is great for new driveways or those with drainage problems. It also works well for decorative pathways, walkways, plant beds and flower beds.

If you’re unsure of which type to buy, ask a professional, particularly if you have problems such as excessive erosion, improper drainage or muddy conditions.

Crushed rock is typically sold by the cubic yard (27 square feet). Before you place an order, you’ll have to tourl=https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculat ... .determine the square footage of the area you need to covero/url] and how deep you want the rock to be. As a guideline, one cubic yard covers about 324 square feet, one inch deep. Similarly, it covers 162 square feet, 2 inches deep.

Video: 20 Tons of Stone Delivered

For your reference, this is what 20 tons of stone looks like:

[youtube]9Wmk5zmhiqs[/youtube]

Pea Gravel Cost

Expect to pay between around $35 per cubic yard or $40 to $45 per ton for pea gravel delivery. The price will decrease significantly for large quantities of pea gravel. If you are looking for a color other than gray, the cost will increase.

Pea gravel is a small hard stone that is about the size of a pea. The most common size is 3/8 inch. It is smooth and generally round with no sharp edges. It is frequently used in home gardening and decorative landscaping projects such as accenting flower beds and gardens.

Cost of Crushed Rock Delivery
The price of crushed rock depends on the type and size you select, and the amount. It is also heavily influenced by your geographic location. Prices in big cities are easily double what they are in many rural areas.

Minus crushed rock is less expensive, ranging from about $12-$35 per cubic yard, not including delivery or spreading.
Clean crushed rock usually ranges in price from $30-$50 per cubic yard, also not including delivery or spreading.

Delivery and spreading charges vary, too, but in many cases they will double the price. The more you order, however, the less per cubic yard delivery charges will be.

Source: https://www.kompareit.com/homeandgarden ... costs.html

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:34 am**

why doesn't he just admit he smited the wrong guy and could've stopped the ai spamming simply by asking

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:06 am**

because you need nabski levels of fuck up for anything to be done about you

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:38 am**

What did Nabski do when he got deadminned?

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:08 am**

Malkraz wrote:because you need nabski levels of fuck up for anything to be done about you

If it were me, I would admit to my mistake and self-flaggerteet publicly so people would know I was contrite and would remove me from their mental shitlist of bad

admins

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:57 am**

Timonk wrote:What did Nabski do when he got deadminned?

Openly admitted to having a grudge against Haku before banning him

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:10 am**

Fuck haku.

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:23 am**

Malkraz wrote:
Timonk wrote:What did Nabski do when he got deadminned?
Openly admitted to having a grudge against Haku before banning him

This is why you never admit to your mistakes

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:24 pm**

S P L I T

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:23 pm**

Yeah, I think that’s the first split decision I’ve ever seen since the triumvirate votes were made publicly visible.
Good on Coconut for sticking to his guns.

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:00 pm**

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:30 pm**

After alot of discussion on this we believe that saying WGW would have made both you AND the guy who ordered it valid for admins and players.

Do not entertain wgw posters. Die.

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:50 pm**

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:41 pm**

It's spelled received, yes I hate this word too, you are welcome.

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:23 pm**

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:55 pm**

i before e except after c

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:32 am**

except in "science" or any of the multiple other exceptions

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