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Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:28 pm
by Itseasytosee2me

Bottom post of the previous page:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31971
Massa, the one of newest consistent forms uses (superseded the ever venerable celularLAmp) has been banned!

It is a horrific thought that the moment one of us falls, the rest move in to rip us to shreds. Such is the brutality of the tg forums.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:49 am
by Tearling
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:02 am
Tearling wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:58 pm
iwishforducks wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:59 am there has not been one time that ive walked away thinking that one of massa’s forum posts has had an overall positive impact on the forum. this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain
While I agree with this, is it normal to walk away from anyone's forum posts thinking it had a positive impact?

Have you ever walked away from one of my posts thinking that it had an overall positive impact on the forum?
read the next sentence
Did you make a mistake when reading my post? I was asking if it's normal to come away from any post thinking it has a positive impact on the forum, it has nothing to do with "this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain"

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:10 am
by iwishforducks
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:49 am
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:02 am
Tearling wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:58 pm
iwishforducks wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:59 am there has not been one time that ive walked away thinking that one of massa’s forum posts has had an overall positive impact on the forum. this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain
While I agree with this, is it normal to walk away from anyone's forum posts thinking it had a positive impact?

Have you ever walked away from one of my posts thinking that it had an overall positive impact on the forum?
read the next sentence
Did you make a mistake when reading my post? I was asking if it's normal to come away from any post thinking it has a positive impact on the forum, it has nothing to do with "this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain"
i was calling massa a plague on this community without saying it directly. your reply only focused on my first sentence and so you missed the point.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:18 am
by Archie700
I'm sure the 27 notes is all admin cope to hide the reality of their clown server
Guys this is just banter guys 1984 and such

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:28 am
by Tearling
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:10 am
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:49 am
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:02 am
Tearling wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:58 pm
iwishforducks wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:59 am there has not been one time that ive walked away thinking that one of massa’s forum posts has had an overall positive impact on the forum. this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain
While I agree with this, is it normal to walk away from anyone's forum posts thinking it had a positive impact?

Have you ever walked away from one of my posts thinking that it had an overall positive impact on the forum?
read the next sentence
Did you make a mistake when reading my post? I was asking if it's normal to come away from any post thinking it has a positive impact on the forum, it has nothing to do with "this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain"
i was calling massa a plague on this community without saying it directly. your reply only focused on my first sentence and so you missed the point.
I didn't miss your point. This should be plainly obvious by the fact that I said "While I agree with this," which indicates that I fully understood the point of your post, which was an indirect jab at Massa. I've actually been mocked my massa before, and I won't hesitate to say that I'm biased against him.

I did indeed focus on your first sentence, because to put it simply, it's humorous. The implication that you go around saying "Yes, this post makes the forum a better place" and then walk away is a humorous implication. I wasn't trying to mock you with my question, I was mocking the hypothetical world you laid out where it's normal to walk away from posts thinking they have a positive impact on the forum.

If, by focusing on your first sentence I somehow missed the point, doesn't that mean your first sentence was pointless?

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:29 am
by Archie700

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:32 am
by Archie700
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:28 am
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:10 am
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:49 am
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:02 am
Tearling wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:58 pm
iwishforducks wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:59 am there has not been one time that ive walked away thinking that one of massa’s forum posts has had an overall positive impact on the forum. this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain
While I agree with this, is it normal to walk away from anyone's forum posts thinking it had a positive impact?

Have you ever walked away from one of my posts thinking that it had an overall positive impact on the forum?
read the next sentence
Did you make a mistake when reading my post? I was asking if it's normal to come away from any post thinking it has a positive impact on the forum, it has nothing to do with "this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain"
i was calling massa a plague on this community without saying it directly. your reply only focused on my first sentence and so you missed the point.
I didn't miss your point. This should be plainly obvious by the fact that I said "While I agree with this," which indicates that I fully understood the point of your post, which was an indirect jab at Massa. I've actually been mocked my massa before, and I won't hesitate to say that I'm biased against him.

I did indeed focus on your first sentence, because to put it simply, it's humorous. The implication that you go around saying "Yes, this post makes the forum a better place" and then walk away is a humorous implication. I wasn't trying to mock you with my question, I was mocking the hypothetical world you laid out where it's normal to walk away from posts thinking they have a positive impact on the forum.

If, by focusing on your first sentence I somehow missed the point, doesn't that mean your first sentence was pointless?
Constructive criticism and helpful information are positive impacts

The implication is that every post Massa has made has none of these

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:49 am
by Tearling
Archie700 wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:32 am
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:28 am
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:10 am
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:49 am
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:02 am
Tearling wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:58 pm
iwishforducks wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:59 am there has not been one time that ive walked away thinking that one of massa’s forum posts has had an overall positive impact on the forum. this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain
While I agree with this, is it normal to walk away from anyone's forum posts thinking it had a positive impact?

Have you ever walked away from one of my posts thinking that it had an overall positive impact on the forum?
read the next sentence
Did you make a mistake when reading my post? I was asking if it's normal to come away from any post thinking it has a positive impact on the forum, it has nothing to do with "this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain"
i was calling massa a plague on this community without saying it directly. your reply only focused on my first sentence and so you missed the point.
I didn't miss your point. This should be plainly obvious by the fact that I said "While I agree with this," which indicates that I fully understood the point of your post, which was an indirect jab at Massa. I've actually been mocked my massa before, and I won't hesitate to say that I'm biased against him.

I did indeed focus on your first sentence, because to put it simply, it's humorous. The implication that you go around saying "Yes, this post makes the forum a better place" and then walk away is a humorous implication. I wasn't trying to mock you with my question, I was mocking the hypothetical world you laid out where it's normal to walk away from posts thinking they have a positive impact on the forum.

If, by focusing on your first sentence I somehow missed the point, doesn't that mean your first sentence was pointless?
Constructive criticism and helpful information are positive impacts

The implication is that every post Massa has made has none of these
Archie, I don't think I've ever walked away from one of your posts thinking it had a positive impact on the forum.

In fact, I think your post here has only made this forum a worst place, especially given that you are not providing either constructive criticism, nor helpful information.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:04 am
by oranges
I am closing tgstation forums

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:33 am
by Bawhoppennn
dang bans have really gone off the deep-end lately, huh

edit: nvm I just remembered they always were

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:16 am
by RaveRadbury
oranges wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:04 am I am closing tgstation forums

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:37 am
by san7890
Hey you know what would be swag?

LIke really swag?

Super-duper swag?

Snipping quotes.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:26 am
by RaveRadbury
san7890 wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:37 am -Snip-

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:34 am
by Imitates-The-Lizards
oranges wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:04 am I am closing tgstation forums
It's for the best.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:48 am
by Jonathan Gupta
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:34 am
oranges wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:04 am I am closing tgstation forums
It's for the best.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:43 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
Isn't it kind of racist to call this "tribalism"?

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:13 pm
by Tearling
oranges wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:04 am I am closing tgstation forums
Replace it with a tumblr blog run by the headmins

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
by Farquaar
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:43 pm Isn't it kind of racist to call this "tribalism"?
How?

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:23 pm
by MrAlphonzo
I love going onto the official /tg/station forums player's club for quality and productive discourse.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:01 pm
by BONERMASTER
MrAlphonzo wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:23 pm I love going onto the official /tg/station forums player's club for quality and productive discourse.
And I'm sure the players love walking into your appeals for a reasonable and fair discourse!


With reciprocating regards
-BONERMASTER

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:59 pm
by chocolate_bickie
MrAlphonzo wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:23 pm I love going onto the official /tg/station forums player's club for quality and productive discourse.
Quality post incoming.

Mr Melbert has been pushing for reduced hostility between tg servers for two headmin cycles. It is literally the first point they campaign'd on.

viewtopic.php?p=630489#p630489

As someone who used to main Terry and them migrated to Manuel (and liked it) I'd like to offer some insight.

Some of it is bants that get out if hand. I suspect this new policy

There's a general sense of alienation with the admin team on Terry, which has got worse now that Naloac (a terrymin), a previous headmin, has deadminned. Other notable terrymins have also left.

There is a common theme that other admins just don't get terry. This all coincided with MRP candidates being elected as player choice headmins.

Mr Melbert themself has said they are mainly a MRP candidate and if I remember correctly they are the player candidate.

With Manuel and Terry being different timezone it's difficult for people to have community presence on both, which has helped created to separate communities.

MRP is a pretty recent addition to TG and it has come to dominate it in a short time.

Anyway for brevity and to stay on topic I have left out manuel hostility to terry, campbell and coding needs.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:36 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
Farquaar wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:43 pm Isn't it kind of racist to call this "tribalism"?
How?
It's kind of insulting to members of actual tribes.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:19 am
by Farquaar
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:36 pm
Farquaar wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:43 pm Isn't it kind of racist to call this "tribalism"?
How?
It's kind of insulting to members of actual tribes.
I think you’ll have to elaborate further

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:47 am
by Rohen_Tahir
Farquaar wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:19 am
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:36 pm
Farquaar wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:43 pm Isn't it kind of racist to call this "tribalism"?
How?
It's kind of insulting to members of actual tribes.
I think you’ll have to elaborate further
Not all tribes are hostile towards outsiders

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:14 am
by oranges
chocolate_bickie wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:59 pm
MrAlphonzo wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:23 pm I love going onto the official /tg/station forums player's club for quality and productive discourse.
Quality post incoming.

Mr Melbert has been pushing for reduced hostility between tg servers for two headmin cycles. It is literally the first point they campaign'd on.

viewtopic.php?p=630489#p630489

As someone who used to main Terry and them migrated to Manuel (and liked it) I'd like to offer some insight.

Some of it is bants that get out if hand. I suspect this new policy

There's a general sense of alienation with the admin team on Terry, which has got worse now that Naloac (a terrymin), a previous headmin, has deadminned. Other notable terrymins have also left.

There is a common theme that other admins just don't get terry. This all coincided with MRP candidates being elected as player choice headmins.

Mr Melbert themself has said they are mainly a MRP candidate and if I remember correctly they are the player candidate.

With Manuel and Terry being different timezone it's difficult for people to have community presence on both, which has helped created to separate communities.

MRP is a pretty recent addition to TG and it has come to dominate it in a short time.

Anyway for brevity and to stay on topic I have left out manuel hostility to terry, campbell and coding needs.
What is there to get about terry? it ended up with the admins and players who thought saying the n word was funny, i.e. the hippie shitter that came here when it got btfo.

The only alienation they're feeling is the feeling of not being wanted

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:19 am
by Archie700
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:49 am
Archie700 wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:32 am
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:28 am
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:10 am
Tearling wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:49 am
iwishforducks wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:02 am
Tearling wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:58 pm
iwishforducks wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:59 am there has not been one time that ive walked away thinking that one of massa’s forum posts has had an overall positive impact on the forum. this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain
While I agree with this, is it normal to walk away from anyone's forum posts thinking it had a positive impact?

Have you ever walked away from one of my posts thinking that it had an overall positive impact on the forum?
read the next sentence
Did you make a mistake when reading my post? I was asking if it's normal to come away from any post thinking it has a positive impact on the forum, it has nothing to do with "this is not to say that every post of theirs i feel is negative, but it’s gotten to the point where i dont even read their posts even if it’s in a reply chain"
i was calling massa a plague on this community without saying it directly. your reply only focused on my first sentence and so you missed the point.
I didn't miss your point. This should be plainly obvious by the fact that I said "While I agree with this," which indicates that I fully understood the point of your post, which was an indirect jab at Massa. I've actually been mocked my massa before, and I won't hesitate to say that I'm biased against him.

I did indeed focus on your first sentence, because to put it simply, it's humorous. The implication that you go around saying "Yes, this post makes the forum a better place" and then walk away is a humorous implication. I wasn't trying to mock you with my question, I was mocking the hypothetical world you laid out where it's normal to walk away from posts thinking they have a positive impact on the forum.

If, by focusing on your first sentence I somehow missed the point, doesn't that mean your first sentence was pointless?
Constructive criticism and helpful information are positive impacts

The implication is that every post Massa has made has none of these
Archie, I don't think I've ever walked away from one of your posts thinking it had a positive impact on the forum.

In fact, I think your post here has only made this forum a worst place, especially given that you are not providing either constructive criticism, nor helpful information.
True.
But this whole reply chain didn't have a positive impact over anything.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:19 am
by Itseasytosee2me
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:47 am
Farquaar wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:19 am
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:36 pm
Farquaar wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:43 pm Isn't it kind of racist to call this "tribalism"?
How?
It's kind of insulting to members of actual tribes.
I think you’ll have to elaborate further
Not all tribes are hostile towards outsiders
Tribe doesn't nessicarly mean a primitive clan of people. The word tribe originally mean "group of likeminded individuals that have a leader" during its inception in Rome. The word tribe was used to describe indigenous ethnic groups by imperialists. "Tribalism" refers to the definition of the word tribe, and not the groups of people who are described as such.
If anything, calling tight nit ethnic groups tribes could be considered racist if you were talking to a particularly fractious person, as it carries negative connotations in some aspects.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:36 am
by Capsandi
I dewalt masonry drillbit 3/8in drilled into the headmins secret IRC channel by leveraging information i had on the whereabouts of the real slim shady to gain access to the cia backdoor to the interwebz and basically headmins are going to close this thread !!SCREENCAP THIS!!

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:37 am
by MrAlphonzo
BONERMASTER wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:01 pm
MrAlphonzo wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:23 pm I love going onto the official /tg/station forums player's club for quality and productive discourse.
-snip-
Image

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:18 am
by san7890
MY EYES HURT PLEASE ONLY JUST A BIT OF CONTEXT TO WHAT YOU'RE REPLYING TO OH MY FUCKING GOD

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:43 am
by Jonathan Gupta
san7890 wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:18 am MY EYES HURT PLEASE ONLY JUST A BIT OF CONTEXT TO WHAT YOU'RE REPLYING TO OH MY FUCKING GOD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHP4fpwjO-o

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:20 am
by BONERMASTER
san7890 wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:18 am MY EYES HURT PLEASE ONLY JUST A BIT OF CONTEXT TO WHAT YOU'RE REPLYING TO OH MY FUCKING GOD
Hello San,

if you are replying to the latest post, which was left by MrAlphonzo, then I will be happy to deliver you its context, in which I was involved in.

For the context, this was MrAlphonzo's reply to my message:
MrAlphonzo wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:37 am Image
The message that was replied to was:
BONERMASTER wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:01 pm
And I'm sure the players love walking into your appeals for a reasonable and fair discourse!


With reciprocating regards
-BONERMASTER

I hope that clears it up, and that their reply now makes sense to you. If it does, please let me know what it means.


With contextual regards
-BONERMASTER

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:26 am
by san7890
BONERMASTER wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:20 am
-snip-

Hello San,

if you are replying to the latest post, which was left by MrAlphonzo, then I will be happy to deliver you its context, in which I was involved in.

-snip-
I was not replying to your latest post- apologies for being obtuse.

I am referring to stuff like this, which is a general sentiment that can not be directed at any one person since everyone in this thread is doing it. The following example is the most recent, and therefore most egregious example in this thread (since they tend to pick up and snowball a shitload of replies):

Image

I would rather have a small, singular quote with minor context (as anyone is then able to click on the blue arrow in the quote to get to the full message), rather than encapsulate an entire conversation inside an infinite spiral of information that does nothing but just add scroll time.

Thank you for your time BONERMASTER, as it allowed me the opportunity to further expand on my frustrations.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:41 am
by chocolate_bickie
oranges wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:14 am What is there to get about terry? it ended up with the admins and players who thought saying the n word was funny, i.e. the hippie shitter that came here when it got btfo.

The only alienation they're feeling is the feeling of not being wanted
Terry still has players despite Merchant Station being a thing. The entire population also managed to avoid a permaban since MSO said no to racism in september 2020. Clearly 'being racist' is not Terry's only attraction.

Your post is the same cringe as Massa's, except rather than "Manuel ban on level of fulp" it's "All Terry players are racist".

If you want an in-depth read on Terry culture talk to the admins that main there.

The point I am trying to make and that you have also often made in other topics, is that players have no say over the community, only staff do. This means admins often represent for the players and admins that main a certain server represent that servers population.

Re: Massa tribalism peanut

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:31 pm
by toemas
oranges wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:14 am
What is there to get about terry? it ended up with the admins and players who thought saying the n word was funny, i.e. the hippie shitter that came here when it got btfo.

The only alienation they're feeling is the feeling of not being wanted
woah man. cool it with the excessive toxic server tribalism