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Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:46 pm

NoxVS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:41 pm

rasonj wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:16 pm I don't understand why there is a mechanic to interact with the disk not being in the captains backpack if we intend to ban captains for not putting it in the backpack. The mere existence of the mechanic seems to imply it as a valid option.

why is there a mechanic for bombs exploding and killing people if im going to get banned for making bombs and using them to explode the station and kill people

Why is there a mechanic for your mother

Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:32 pm You deserve to have the appeal denied solely on the basis of you posting your own peanut /j

Also to expand on my post in Lisa's appeal, "putting it in the safe" is absolutely not secure because emags exist.

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:46 pm

NoxVS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:41 pm

rasonj wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:16 pm I don't understand why there is a mechanic to interact with the disk not being in the captains backpack if we intend to ban captains for not putting it in the backpack. The mere existence of the mechanic seems to imply it as a valid option.

why is there a mechanic for bombs exploding and killing people if im going to get banned for making bombs and using them to explode the station and kill people

Why is there a mechanic for your mother

Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:10 pm also congrats on reaching the second page of the player club thread, enjoy your stay

Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:23 pm I trimmed out some peanut parts of my last post, but broadly my opinion has gone from "I think Lisa powergames and is coming really close to breaking the rules" to "she was almost there with powergaming stuff and this could've used a lighter touch"

I'm already dangerously close to peanut posting in the original appeal if it weren't for the fact I consulted on the ban in the first place

Capsandi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:42 pm Someone needs to pr some sort of indicator as to whether the disk is 'secure' or not so players who don't know about the niche lone op mechanic won't make the same intuitive assumption (though swat has been trolled for putting it in the safe before).

Armhulen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:47 pm

Capsandi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:42 pm Someone needs to pr some sort of indicator as to whether the disk is 'secure' or not so players who don't know about the niche lone op mechanic won't make the same intuitive assumption (though swat has been trolled for putting it in the safe before).

Sure

Armhulen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:24 pm

Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:32 pm You deserve to have the appeal denied solely on the basis of you posting your own peanut /j

Also to expand on my post in Lisa's appeal, "putting it in the safe" is absolutely not secure because emags exist.

I'm not saying every round you should be baiting out bad things happening but imo we shouldn't encourage people only doing the meta choice with other choices seen as griefing, it makes stories samey, predictable, and boring. One takeaway I'm going to pull from this is that solo op chances need to not go up if the disky is in a safe or other very safe container. Should only really be going up if you're neglecting it, and putting it in the safe isn't exactly that.
Kinda reminds me of awhile back where people would get pissed at RD for not following a very specific techweb progression which honestly still can happen

Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:34 am

Armhulen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:47 pm

Capsandi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:42 pm Someone needs to pr some sort of indicator as to whether the disk is 'secure' or not so players who don't know about the niche lone op mechanic won't make the same intuitive assumption (though swat has been trolled for putting it in the safe before).

Sure

Please make it a versatile component or signal or something that can take any prospective icon.

When Disky is tucked into bed, it needs to have ZzZs. Disky needs to have faces depending on how hard it is influencing loneop spawn chance. When Disky is moving on conveyors it needs a face because it's have fun.

Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:18 am IT'S UP

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/73453

mindstormy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:56 am Okay so lets cut straight to the chase here because I'm not writing a novel back at you.

I am going to lift the ban because a day is enough time in my opinion.

I saw you calling folks retards a few times in round and thought man this person's being a bit of a dick. Let me be clear this alone is not why I banned you. It just started me down the path of observing you. My gut reaction was confirmed a several times by your general actions, communication style, and play style, but especially when you allowed your friend to behead the person (effectively round removing them) who tased you in the brig that one time. I continue to think you were being a bit of a dick for the majority of the round and the ban is justified on those grounds alone.

I will admit I got distracted by your colorful note history of powergaming and general shittery and and that skewed my opinion of you in a negative light. I could have communicated my dislike of your play style better in round but your VERY RECENT note history skewed my judgement.

That being said. Stop getting notes every few weeks for this kind of shit it is leading you towards the path of a perma ban and a less friendly admin than I will not tolerate this behavior.

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:16 am

mindstormy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:56 am Okay so lets cut straight to the chase here because I'm not writing a novel back at you.

I am going to lift the ban because a day is enough time in my opinion.

I saw you calling folks retards a few times in round and thought man this person's being a bit of a dick. Let me be clear this alone is not why I banned you. It just started me down the path of observing you. My gut reaction was confirmed a several times by your general actions, communication style, and play style, but especially when you allowed your friend to behead the person (effectively round removing them) who tased you in the brig that one time. I continue to think you were being a bit of a dick for the majority of the round and the ban is justified on those grounds alone.

I will admit I got distracted by your colorful note history of powergaming and general shittery and and that skewed my opinion of you in a negative light. I could have communicated my dislike of your play style better in round but your VERY RECENT note history skewed my judgement.

That being said. Stop getting notes every few weeks for this kind of shit it is leading you towards the path of a perma ban and a less friendly admin than I will not tolerate this behavior.

Love this guy. Absolutely no time wasted

Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:49 pm

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wesoda25 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:16 am

mindstormy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:56 am Okay so lets cut straight to the chase here because I'm not writing a novel back at you.

I am going to lift the ban because a day is enough time in my opinion.

I saw you calling folks retards a few times in round and thought man this person's being a bit of a dick. Let me be clear this alone is not why I banned you. It just started me down the path of observing you. My gut reaction was confirmed a several times by your general actions, communication style, and play style, but especially when you allowed your friend to behead the person (effectively round removing them) who tased you in the brig that one time. I continue to think you were being a bit of a dick for the majority of the round and the ban is justified on those grounds alone.

I will admit I got distracted by your colorful note history of powergaming and general shittery and and that skewed my opinion of you in a negative light. I could have communicated my dislike of your play style better in round but your VERY RECENT note history skewed my judgement.

That being said. Stop getting notes every few weeks for this kind of shit it is leading you towards the path of a perma ban and a less friendly admin than I will not tolerate this behavior.

Love this guy. Absolutely no time wasted

Perfect. Time was served, a lesson was taught, someone playing like a degenerate was whooped, but it's more incident focused and not overall and they can improve

rasonj wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:30 pm

Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:49 pm

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wesoda25 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:16 am

mindstormy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:56 am Okay so lets cut straight to the chase here because I'm not writing a novel back at you.

I am going to lift the ban because a day is enough time in my opinion.

I saw you calling folks retards a few times in round and thought man this person's being a bit of a dick. Let me be clear this alone is not why I banned you. It just started me down the path of observing you. My gut reaction was confirmed a several times by your general actions, communication style, and play style, but especially when you allowed your friend to behead the person (effectively round removing them) who tased you in the brig that one time. I continue to think you were being a bit of a dick for the majority of the round and the ban is justified on those grounds alone.

I will admit I got distracted by your colorful note history of powergaming and general shittery and and that skewed my opinion of you in a negative light. I could have communicated my dislike of your play style better in round but your VERY RECENT note history skewed my judgement.

That being said. Stop getting notes every few weeks for this kind of shit it is leading you towards the path of a perma ban and a less friendly admin than I will not tolerate this behavior.

Love this guy. Absolutely no time wasted

Perfect. Time was served, a lesson was taught, someone playing like a degenerate was whooped, but it's more incident focused and not overall and they can improve

I am not sure a lesson was taught. I am not sure what the actual ban reason ended up being. Was it "don't put the disk in the safe", was it "don't call people retard" or was it "here is a note for having a lot of notes"

Cobby wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:31 pm The real question is why is there a rampup in the probability check? There is no reset time if we raise the weight portion, it literally gets worse and worse which is a bit strange for something that was suppose to just be this cute, niche mechanic.

Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:38 pm let's ask op

Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:50 pm

Cobby wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:31 pm The real question is why is there a rampup in the probability check? There is no reset time if we raise the weight portion, it literally gets worse and worse which is a bit strange for something that was suppose to just be this cute, niche mechanic.

It is kinda sad that like, you can tuck the disk into bed and that's funny little thing but you're punished by soaring the lone op chances for doing it, but you'll probably only be getting banned if you let the lone op chances soar by leaving it unsecured without hte funny meme mechanic.

Basically there's something here that don't make sense

rasonj wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:29 pm I still think putting the disk in the safe is not any different than rejecting shuttle insurance.

2023-02-14 22:22:46
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Editing a ban note that was for excessive power gaming. I am editing this to change it to a rule 1 ban which was my original intent. I thought you were being a dick and given your note history decided you needed a break. I saw you calling folks retards a few times in round and thought man this person's being a bit of a dick. Let me be clear this alone is not why I banned you. It just started me down the path of observing you. My gut reaction was confirmed a several times by your general actions, communication style, and play style.

So my main issue here, is you have been repeatedly warned about powegaming and tiding. I've been watching you most of the shift since it's been a quiet low pop round and I gota say I am not a fan of the style of play you are bringing to the table especially as a captain.
mindstormy ➡ thelolswat 
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This is about powergaming. You know it is powergaming and you are unapologetic about it.
mindstormy ➡ thelolswat 
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That is because it started as rule 1 investigation that lead to me seeing how much you have violated rule 12. You have been repeatedly warned about it. Given the amount of warnings you have for this, the ban length is going to be 2 days. If you would like to appeal this ban please feel free to do so on the forums.
mindstormy ➡ thelolswat

Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:45 pm Wait, I thought this thread died. Where am I?

Timberpoes wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:01 pm This term I've been reviving old, dead, locked peanut threads when there's been headmin rulings. It gives players the chance to have the final say on how things were handled, decided or resolved.

ekaterina wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:31 pm Lisa Green might be uncool but even the uncool deserve due process. This is the good ending.

I'd like to see the headmins continue the tradition of discriminating the vote of each headmin, instead of omitting it as they did here, though.

datorangebottle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:48 pm

Timberpoes wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:01 pm This term I've been reviving old, dead, locked peanut threads when there's been headmin rulings. It gives players the chance to have the final say on how things were handled, decided or resolved.

No...
Timberpoes has become a necromancer...