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viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33635I disagree! I find it’s really fun to murder people and get it out of my system.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:10 amno it doesn'tekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
Some could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
Ahelp it if it is NRP behavior.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
I did. I was told it was fine.vect0r wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:06 amAhelp it if it is NRP behavior.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
Would you rather he kill you in the round itself? Because that's what will happen if you get rid of EORG when he hates you that much.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
Unlucky. It's an LRP server, so admins shouldn't be saying that's okay. Yikes!CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:18 amI did. I was told it was fine.vect0r wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:06 amAhelp it if it is NRP behavior.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
To be fair, he only played psychologist once since getting unbanned, and that was sometime yesterday.EmpressMaia wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:43 pm After being unbanned. He has started playing phycologist because they have med access
And then he gets banned if he does it without good reason.ekaterina wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:46 amWould you rather he kill you in the round itself? Because that's what will happen if you get rid of EORG when he hates you that much.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
This was on Manuel.
EmpressMaia wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:43 pm After being unbanned. He has started playing phycologist because they have med access
to be fair he's played lawyer before his med ban and tried to form a lynchmob to kill Rubs-With-Romerol because Romerol Ribhouse doesn't contain any real RomerolEmpressMaia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:17 am Update. He is playing lawyer and he broke out the round start prisoners FNR
I mean Romerol Ribs is made by a lizard named Rubs-With-Romerol so he isn't lying in the name of the ribs.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:14 amto be fair he's played lawyer before his med ban and tried to form a lynchmob to kill Rubs-With-Romerol because Romerol Ribhouse doesn't contain any real RomerolEmpressMaia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:17 am Update. He is playing lawyer and he broke out the round start prisoners FNR
Yeah eventually security kicked his ass so hard that he somehow negotiated that his crusade against Rubs was actually an advertisement campaign.RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:24 amI mean Romerol Ribs is made by a lizard named Rubs-With-Romerol so he isn't lying in the name of the ribs.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:14 amto be fair he's played lawyer before his med ban and tried to form a lynchmob to kill Rubs-With-Romerol because Romerol Ribhouse doesn't contain any real RomerolEmpressMaia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:17 am Update. He is playing lawyer and he broke out the round start prisoners FNR
... isn't that what we're trying to avoid? You have just proven my point.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:02 pmAnd then he gets banned if he does it without good reason.ekaterina wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:46 amWould you rather he kill you in the round itself? Because that's what will happen if you get rid of EORG when he hates you that much.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
No. We're trying to avoid shitty behaviour that leads to a ban.ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:18 am... isn't that what we're trying to avoid? You have just proven my point.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:02 pmAnd then he gets banned if he does it without good reason.ekaterina wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:46 amWould you rather he kill you in the round itself? Because that's what will happen if you get rid of EORG when he hates you that much.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
You too have just proven my point. EORG metagrudging provides an outlet for angry spessmen, meaning they don't metagrudge in the actual round, thus preventing the "certain behaviour".conrad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:20 amNo. We're trying to avoid shitty behaviour that leads to a ban.ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:18 am... isn't that what we're trying to avoid? You have just proven my point.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:02 pmAnd then he gets banned if he does it without good reason.ekaterina wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:46 amWould you rather he kill you in the round itself? Because that's what will happen if you get rid of EORG when he hates you that much.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
The entire purpose of rules is not to punish a certain behaviour, but to prevent a certain behaviour in the first place.
I don't know why I bother.ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:02 pmYou too have just proven my point. EORG metagrudging provides an outlet for angry spessmen, meaning they don't metagrudge in the actual round, thus preventing the "certain behaviour".conrad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:20 amNo. We're trying to avoid shitty behaviour that leads to a ban.ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:18 am... isn't that what we're trying to avoid? You have just proven my point.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:02 pmAnd then he gets banned if he does it without good reason.ekaterina wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:46 amWould you rather he kill you in the round itself? Because that's what will happen if you get rid of EORG when he hates you that much.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
The entire purpose of rules is not to punish a certain behaviour, but to prevent a certain behaviour in the first place.
This reply chain looks horrible on mobile.conrad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:19 pmI don't know why I bother.ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:02 pmYou too have just proven my point. EORG metagrudging provides an outlet for angry spessmen, meaning they don't metagrudge in the actual round, thus preventing the "certain behaviour".conrad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:20 amNo. We're trying to avoid shitty behaviour that leads to a ban.ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:18 am... isn't that what we're trying to avoid? You have just proven my point.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:02 pmAnd then he gets banned if he does it without good reason.ekaterina wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:46 amWould you rather he kill you in the round itself? Because that's what will happen if you get rid of EORG when he hates you that much.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
The entire purpose of rules is not to punish a certain behaviour, but to prevent a certain behaviour in the first place.
I'm on a vertical monitor and it looks sick.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:37 pmThis reply chain looks horrible on mobile.conrad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:19 pmI don't know why I bother.ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:02 pmYou too have just proven my point. EORG metagrudging provides an outlet for angry spessmen, meaning they don't metagrudge in the actual round, thus preventing the "certain behaviour".conrad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:20 amNo. We're trying to avoid shitty behaviour that leads to a ban.ekaterina wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:18 am... isn't that what we're trying to avoid? You have just proven my point.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:02 pmAnd then he gets banned if he does it without good reason.ekaterina wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:46 amWould you rather he kill you in the round itself? Because that's what will happen if you get rid of EORG when he hates you that much.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:42 amSome could argue all it does is legalize metagrudging. I had someone who had been a right shitter to me two rounds in a row corner me in a mech on the shuttle just waiting for the round-end screen to hit so he could murder me. Admins ruled this was fine since he waited, even though it was blatant NRP "I hate you and I want to click you until you're horizontal" behaviour, even as he was screaming about how "I WANNA KILL YOU BUT I CAN'T YET"ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:20 pmGood point. EORG lets you get it out of your system and prevents (some) metagrudging.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 pmYea but i want to grief you specifically round endSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 pmthen go down the retard chute and left click on people while everyone else laughs and jokes about funny events that happened in the round while you were silently patrolling the station for 45 minutes collecting EPIC LOOTZ for the FINAL EORG SHOWDOWN VIOLENCE ORGYTimonk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:17 pmWorst crag take I've read by far. I speak from experience since i have read 5 years worth of crag takes.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:05 pm im an MRP nerd and the fucking ludonarrative dissonance of my coworkers just randomly murdering me cuz hehe ship dock squeezes my balls harder than "why the fuck does centcomm even bother employing our characters if they're just going to call the shuttle in 45 minute cuz "im bored lets go home"
Who the fuck cares if we murder each other in the last minute especially after enduring 45 minutes (or longer!) of handholding? It's not like anyone is gonna do centcom RP since 90% of the crew can't even leave the dock due to missing access. And even if you leave the dock, centcom is incredibly barebones.
The entire purpose of rules is not to punish a certain behaviour, but to prevent a certain behaviour in the first place.
if you need EORG metagrudging to prevent yourself from being a prick during the round, maybe you just need an extended break from the game. playing on tg isnt a right and if you cant control yourself when it comes to the rules (as evident when you break the same rules time and time again in the exact same way without showing any signs of improvement) then you just shouldnt play.
Thank you lolswat, you are a true hero. I was gonna write that but serotonin levels dipped harshly. I envy your patience.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:28 pmif you need EORG metagrudging to prevent yourself from being a prick during the round, maybe you just need an extended break from the game. playing on tg isnt a right and if you cant control yourself when it comes to the rules (as evident when you break the same rules time and time again in the exact same way without showing any signs of improvement) then you just shouldnt play
the people who prepare a ludicrous amount of weapons for EORG are foolsRedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:13 pm That argument chain just shows that there is a certain portion of the SS13 audience that are basically just shaved raging Chimpanzees who can't go five minutes without ooga booga killing each other. It absolutely doesn't prevent metagruding. If anything, it's only an outlet for metagrudge to come out in a way that is allowed by the rules. Oh, gee, Will Nodder had seven people sit next to him specifically to start stabbing him at round end for the tenth time this week despite the fact that this was the one round where they weren't a shithead. No, instantly getting atomized at the round end isn't interesting. It will never be interesting to anyone but the bomber. Even in the instance where there is no bomber you still have an arms race of dorks who spent thirty minutes specifically preparing for this one-minute window. (or more if someone is getting megaboinked or multiple people are getting boinked)
EORG is cringe, and on MRP, it's borderline metagaming to prep for it. You are cringe if the only thing preventing you from breaking rules is a one-minute window where that rule doesn't apply. If someone brought up this idea to let people murder themselves into a server that allows them
"it's lame but that's just what happens" isn't really a resolution, especially when EORG explosions are already boring and predictableiwishforducks wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:42 pm it is instrumentally lame to be bombed and you can't do anything but that's just what happens. and that's the point of EORG. what happens happens. the moment we start formulating what creates the most interesting EORG experience is the moment EORG becomes boring and predictable
i dont see how taking away player agency is a solution to bombs being boring and predictableCheshify wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:13 pm"it's lame but that's just what happens" isn't really a resolution, especially when EORG explosions are already boring and predictableiwishforducks wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:42 pm it is instrumentally lame to be bombed and you can't do anything but that's just what happens. and that's the point of EORG. what happens happens. the moment we start formulating what creates the most interesting EORG experience is the moment EORG becomes boring and predictable
if you know someone has a bomb, be based and attack first. whats he gonna do? set it off?Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm where's the player agency in getting instagibbed cuz some frog ganglion read the wiki on how to make a weapon that instantly destroys you with no counterplay whatsoever beyond kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button, when you're barred from kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button cuz the jannie will bannie if you touch him before the timer hits zero, but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
even better, then you dont have to have him in any of your rounds for weeksSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
if somebody brings a bomb that you determine to not be safe, it would make sense for you to disarm the bomb and hold onto it (or hand it off to security or command), I dont see why you would be ahelped for thatSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm where's the player agency in getting instagibbed cuz some frog ganglion read the wiki on how to make a weapon that instantly destroys you with no counterplay whatsoever beyond kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button, when you're barred from kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button cuz the jannie will bannie if you touch him before the timer hits zero, but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
i will get ahelpedArmhulen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:08 pmif you know someone has a bomb, be based and attack first. whats he gonna do? set it off?Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm where's the player agency in getting instagibbed cuz some frog ganglion read the wiki on how to make a weapon that instantly destroys you with no counterplay whatsoever beyond kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button, when you're barred from kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button cuz the jannie will bannie if you touch him before the timer hits zero, but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
even better, then you dont have to have him in any of your rounds for weeksSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
kindly inform the admin you are free for any questions while they fill out the ban information for the other guySuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:37 pmi will get ahelpedArmhulen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:08 pmif you know someone has a bomb, be based and attack first. whats he gonna do? set it off?Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm where's the player agency in getting instagibbed cuz some frog ganglion read the wiki on how to make a weapon that instantly destroys you with no counterplay whatsoever beyond kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button, when you're barred from kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button cuz the jannie will bannie if you touch him before the timer hits zero, but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
even better, then you dont have to have him in any of your rounds for weeksSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
key words:
knowing Frank Shuttlebaum is going to bomb the shuttle because he's done it every round for 4 years would be metagaming my dude, this is MANUEL this is MEDIUM RP take that weak inference shit to SYBILArmhulen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:55 pmkindly inform the admin you are free for any questions while they fill out the ban information for the other guySuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:37 pmi will get ahelpedArmhulen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:08 pmif you know someone has a bomb, be based and attack first. whats he gonna do? set it off?Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm where's the player agency in getting instagibbed cuz some frog ganglion read the wiki on how to make a weapon that instantly destroys you with no counterplay whatsoever beyond kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button, when you're barred from kicking the shit out of him before he pushes the button cuz the jannie will bannie if you touch him before the timer hits zero, but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
even better, then you dont have to have him in any of your rounds for weeksSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm but then he pushes the button early because he's a fucking bungus
key words:
if you know
just ask yourself you have enough reason to believe youre in danger and if you are, take the steps to protect yourself and your coworkers. pushing someone down who is flashing a bomb is not "grief", especially when done in good faith. Just get creative IC if you dont want to assault the bomb out of their hands
Thank you! My goodness... many have a lot to learn from uTheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:47 pmjust ask yourself you have enough reason to believe youre in danger and if you are, take the steps to protect yourself and your coworkers. pushing someone down who is flashing a bomb is not "grief", especially when done in good faith. Just get creative IC if you dont want to assault the bomb out of their hands
